Jimmy Henchman Finally Admits 2 Planning 1994 2PAC Shooting

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$tayRichROLLIN;7448748 said:
No big was murdered because that bitch nicca suge was jealous. Plain and simple. That nicca big was running around LA like he was boss. He was trying to make amends out here. That nicca suge killed the LA scene for a minute. Out of towners thought suge was a boss all over LA and that was far from the case.

1st off, doesn't that fall in line with what i said ???
 
What happened to this Dexter Isaac dude, I thought he was supposed to give more detail to everything that went down.

dude has been quiet since he confessed to the shooting.
 
deathrowzorrow;7448146 said:
Ye from what I heard Biggie warned Pac about Jimmy and his niggaz. Actually did care about PAC. FUCK Pac should have listen

pac was cool with potentially getting f*cked over by jimmy and them .... what he didnt respect is that biggie and them didnt help him as far as knowing who did it ... and yes its easier said than done but pac admitted had the same ish happen to biggies on the west coast HE WOULDNT RIDE but he would had @least let him know who did what to him ...
 
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antarticp;7449201 said:
deathrowzorrow;7448146 said:
Ye from what I heard Biggie warned Pac about Jimmy and his niggaz. Actually did care about PAC. FUCK Pac should have listen

pac was cool with potentially getting f*cked over by jimmy and them .... what he didnt respect is that biggie and them didnt help him as far as knowing who did it ... and yes its easier said than done but pac admitted had the same ish happen to biggies on the west coast HE WOULDNT RIDE but he would had @least let him know who did what to him ...

I still think its kinda corny that Pac directed most of his energy at the Biggie when he knew it was Jimmy that was behind the situation that resulted in him shooting himself in the nuts.

 
Cain;7449152 said:
Also.,.........................dumbasses will still think Who Shot Ya was about Tupac

'slugs missed ya, I aint mad at cha, (nah we aint mad at cha)', it probably was tbf...

But like others have said, BIG warned Pac about who he was messing with...

Its an old subject, but the way I see it was, IMO BIG and Puff didn't want Pac to get shot, , but they probably knew what was up... BUT they (badboy) was already being, shall we say 'bossed' about by Henchman etc, and had they given Pac a heads up about the situation, they would of been 'disciplined' and the shoe could of been on the other foot at some point... Still, Pac expected extremely loyalty with his friends, Pac was showed the lengths he goes to regarding principles etc

But Puffy knows how to stay afloat in life and business, for me it seemed like that was one of them situations...

I can see why Pac was pissed at BadBoy though, but he knew it was also away to gain publicity and make record sales...
 
lethal5;7449250 said:
antarticp;7449201 said:
deathrowzorrow;7448146 said:
Ye from what I heard Biggie warned Pac about Jimmy and his niggaz. Actually did care about PAC. FUCK Pac should have listen

pac was cool with potentially getting f*cked over by jimmy and them .... what he didnt respect is that biggie and them didnt help him as far as knowing who did it ... and yes its easier said than done but pac admitted had the same ish happen to biggies on the west coast HE WOULDNT RIDE but he would had @least let him know who did what to him ...

I still think its kinda corny that Pac directed most of his energy at the Biggie when he knew it was Jimmy that was behind the situation that resulted in him shooting himself in the nuts.

Biggie was his friend, but more importantly the cash cow of BadBoy, which in turn also makes Biggie a money maker for Henchman aswell, as he was apparently extorting BadBoy, so he was doing damage to Henchman if he was attacking Biggie... Plus it was also hyping beef between two rappers, going back and forth selling records, also Henchman was not one of the dopest rappers out, Biggie was haha
 
water ur seeds;7449255 said:
Cain;7449152 said:
Also.,.........................dumbasses will still think Who Shot Ya was about Tupac

'slugs missed ya, I aint mad at cha, (nah we aint mad at cha)', it probably was tbf... [/B}

But like others have said, BIG warned Pac about who he was messing with...

Its an old subject, but the way I see it was, IMO BIG and Puff didn't want Pac to get shot, , but they probably knew what was up... BUT they (badboy) was already being, shall we say 'bossed' about by Henchman etc, and had they given Pac a heads up about the situation, they would of been 'disciplined' and the shoe could of been on the other foot at some point... Still, Pac expected extremely loyalty with his friends, Pac ]as showed the lengths he goes to regarding principles etc

But Puffy knows how to stay afloat in life and business, for me it seemed like that was one of them situations...

I can see why Pac was pissed at BadBoy though, but he knew it was also away to gain publicity and make record sales...


thats from long kiss goodnight
 
Cain;7449152 said:
Also.,.........................dumbasses will still think Who Shot Ya was about Tupac

Yea niggas act like albums dont have deadlines for songs to be in....RTD dropped in September, so the deadline was prolly sometime in August or late July....

 
My two cents.

People act like Suge was a crime boss in LA and Puffy was a boss in New York. In reality Suge and Puff were workers, not bosses.

At one point Death Row was worth around $200 million when they had Dre, Snoop and PAC. However, in the grand scheme of things $200 million is pennies. There's politicians and CEOs that wipe their asses with $200 million. My point is that Suge, Puffy, Jimmy Henchman and whoever else were really pawns in a much, much, much bigger game.
 
5 Grand;7449856 said:
My two cents.

People act like Suge was a crime boss in LA and Puffy was a boss in New York. In reality Suge and Puff were workers, not bosses.

At one point Death Row was worth around $200 million when they had Dre, Snoop and PAC. However, in the grand scheme of things $200 million is pennies. There's politicians and CEOs that wipe their asses with $200 million. My point is that Suge, Puffy, Jimmy Henchman and whoever else were really pawns in a much, much, much bigger game.

This nigga just said 200 million is pennies

Lolol

The game, hip hop game at least, is not that big or deep. Tupac abd biggie abd puffy and henchmen and suge were not pawns in a deeper game. This wasn't the white man sitting at a chess table playing niggas.

This was niggas getting involved in dumb hood shit. Nothing more nothing less. You see it everyday in the hood.
 
SheerExcellence;7450114 said:
5 Grand;7449856 said:
My two cents.

People act like Suge was a crime boss in LA and Puffy was a boss in New York. In reality Suge and Puff were workers, not bosses.

At one point Death Row was worth around $200 million when they had Dre, Snoop and PAC. However, in the grand scheme of things $200 million is pennies. There's politicians and CEOs that wipe their asses with $200 million. My point is that Suge, Puffy, Jimmy Henchman and whoever else were really pawns in a much, much, much bigger game.

This nigga just said 200 million is pennies

Lolol

The game, hip hop game at least, is not that big or deep. Tupac abd biggie abd puffy and henchmen and suge were not pawns in a deeper game. This wasn't the white man sitting at a chess table playing niggas.

This was niggas getting involved in dumb hood shit. Nothing more nothing less. You see it everyday in the hood.

You're pretty much saying the same thing I said. Death Row was owned by Interscope who was owned by Atlantic ( and later Universal) it's not like Suge was a boss, he still had people to answer to.

LOL @ Suge being a boss when Death Row was owned by Interscope and Interscope was owned by Atlantic.
 
Built 4 cuban linx;7449401 said:
water ur seeds;7449255 said:
Cain;7449152 said:
Also.,.........................dumbasses will still think Who Shot Ya was about Tupac

'slugs missed ya, I aint mad at cha, (nah we aint mad at cha)', it probably was tbf... [/B}

But like others have said, BIG warned Pac about who he was messing with...

Its an old subject, but the way I see it was, IMO BIG and Puff didn't want Pac to get shot, , but they probably knew what was up... BUT they (badboy) was already being, shall we say 'bossed' about by Henchman etc, and had they given Pac a heads up about the situation, they would of been 'disciplined' and the shoe could of been on the other foot at some point... Still, Pac expected extremely loyalty with his friends, Pac ]as showed the lengths he goes to regarding principles etc

But Puffy knows how to stay afloat in life and business, for me it seemed like that was one of them situations...

I can see why Pac was pissed at BadBoy though, but he knew it was also away to gain publicity and make record sales...


thats from long kiss goodnight


hahaha yeah, im just saying if he took shots once, why not twice??? imo its clearly a lowkey shot *no pun* though...

even if the song was recored a year of so before the shooting, the fact he released it a month after the shooting is a shot in itself, even if it wasnt originally recored as a diss, the diss is releasing it a month after pac was shot...
 
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lethal5;7449250 said:
antarticp;7449201 said:
deathrowzorrow;7448146 said:
Ye from what I heard Biggie warned Pac about Jimmy and his niggaz. Actually did care about PAC. FUCK Pac should have listen

pac was cool with potentially getting f*cked over by jimmy and them .... what he didnt respect is that biggie and them didnt help him as far as knowing who did it ... and yes its easier said than done but pac admitted had the same ish happen to biggies on the west coast HE WOULDNT RIDE but he would had @least let him know who did what to him ...

I still think its kinda corny that Pac directed most of his energy at the Biggie when he knew it was Jimmy that was behind the situation that resulted in him shooting himself in the nuts.

cosign it def was ... and theres no actual fact on this ... but in prodigys book he said that E Money Bags told him that when he was in jail with pac that pac told him that he was going to diss biggie and puff anyway because marketing wise it made more sense to do so ... which is right ... he might get alot of notoriety from the streets from dissing hatian jack and jimmy but it wont get national coverage cause outside of NYC streets those guys were unknown @ the time ... but dissing Biggie and Puff is going to get big media attention .... as it did ... alot bigger than pac expected !! im sure ....
 
water ur seeds;7449255 said:
Cain;7449152 said:
Also.,.........................dumbasses will still think Who Shot Ya was about Tupac

'slugs missed ya, I aint mad at cha, (nah we aint mad at cha)', it probably was tbf...

But like others have said, BIG warned Pac about who he was messing with...

Its an old subject, but the way I see it was, IMO BIG and Puff didn't want Pac to get shot, , but they probably knew what was up... BUT they (badboy) was already being, shall we say 'bossed' about by Henchman etc, and had they given Pac a heads up about the situation, they would of been 'disciplined' and the shoe could of been on the other foot at some point... Still, Pac expected extremely loyalty with his friends, Pac was showed the lengths he goes to regarding principles etc

But Puffy knows how to stay afloat in life and business, for me it seemed like that was one of them situations...

I can see why Pac was pissed at BadBoy though, but he knew it was also away to gain publicity and make record sales...

i dont know man ... we are all mainly going off of 2pacs versions of stuff that happened ... listening to this recent lil cease interview it doesnt seem like Puff was as close to hatian and jimmy as people are leading onto ...

i wish jack went a lil more specific cause hes acting like he never heard about the quad shooting before ... he never went back and specifically ask Cease if him or big or even puff seen 2pac that day ... the way cease explains the story they never even seen 2pac until they rolled his ass out of the building .... in the movie and even in pacs version he said he went into thier studio shot and looked into biggie and puffs eyes that day ..... the only thing that jives is that cease just happen to see pac walking up the block from the studio window and holler'ed @ him ...
 
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