Jimmy Henchman Finally Admits 2 Planning 1994 2PAC Shooting

[antarticp]

Ye from what I heard Biggie warned Pac about Jimmy and his niggaz. Actually did care about PAC. FUCK Pac should have listen

pac was cool with potentially getting f*cked over by jimmy and them .... what he didnt respect is that biggie and them didnt help him as far as knowing who did it ... and yes its easier said than done but pac admitted had the same ish happen to biggies on the west coast HE WOULDNT RIDE but he would had @least let him know who did what to him ...

I still think its kinda corny that Pac directed most of his energy at the Biggie when he knew it was Jimmy that was behind the situation that resulted in him shooting himself in the nuts.

Biggie was his friend, but more importantly the cash cow of BadBoy, which in turn also makes Biggie a money maker for Henchman aswell, as he was apparently extorting BadBoy, so he was doing damage to Henchman if he was attacking Biggie... Plus it was also hyping beef between two rappers, going back and forth selling records, also Henchman was not one of the dopest rappers out, Biggie was haha

i dont know about this extortionist bs tho ... why would any artist work with this guy ijs ...?? and he would have to be the smoothest criminal ever cause its hard to pin puff and henchmen as working together in any shape or form ... and in light of the last 10 years we know jimmy is not the smoothest criminal ...

 

[antarticp]

My two cents.

People act like Suge was a crime boss in LA and Puffy was a boss in New York. In reality Suge and Puff were workers, not bosses.

At one point Death Row was worth around $200 million when they had Dre, Snoop and PAC. However, in the grand scheme of things $200 million is pennies. There's politicians and CEOs that wipe their asses with $200 million. My point is that Suge, Puffy, Jimmy Henchman and whoever else were really pawns in a much, much, much bigger game.

tru but 2pac was a Suge pawn as well as Biggie was a Puffy pawn ... but Suge was 2pacs boss ... as well as Puff was biggies boss ... it is what it is ... thats structure and organization ... thats why they could succeed and make THE MONEY ... however anyone who knows about bossing up ... knows you gotta stack that $$ and learn to flip those larger amounts into bigger business ... a great example is puff ... hes on his way to wiping his ass with 200 millie ...

i sort of hate when people say stuff like that .. cause everyone starts from somewhere ... dame dash says stuff like this all the time ... im a boss im not working for someone blah blah .. well HOW THE HELL DO YOU RUN A BUSINESS !!!! WITH WORKERS !!!!! with out the WORKERS THE BOSS AINT SHIT !!!!!! workers become bosses !!!!! thats how bosses gain thier experience !!!! ish like that just sounds really unrealistic to me ... everyone cant be CHIEFS !!! and imo when you say ish like that imo you are looking down on the people that WORK FOR YOU !!

 

[antarticp]

My two cents.

People act like Suge was a crime boss in LA and Puffy was a boss in New York. In reality Suge and Puff were workers, not bosses.

At one point Death Row was worth around $200 million when they had Dre, Snoop and PAC. However, in the grand scheme of things $200 million is pennies. There's politicians and CEOs that wipe their asses with $200 million. My point is that Suge, Puffy, Jimmy Henchman and whoever else were really pawns in a much, much, much bigger game.

This nigga just said 200 million is pennies

Lolol

The game, hip hop game at least, is not that big or deep. Tupac abd biggie abd puffy and henchmen and suge were not pawns in a deeper game. This wasn't the white man sitting at a chess table playing niggas.

This was niggas getting involved in dumb hood shit. Nothing more nothing less. You see it everyday in the hood.

#realshit

 

[Me1971]

Also.,.........................dumbasses will still think Who Shot Ya was about Tupac

Yea niggas act like albums dont have deadlines for songs to be in....RTD dropped in September, so the deadline was prolly sometime in August or late July....

Big did record the second and third verses after Pac was shot though. It mentioned being robbed for a Rolex, which we all know Pac was robbed for his Rolex lol. And the line "turned front page nigga".

I really wouldn't put it past Big though. This is the same dude who went to the radio station in LA after Pac died and spit his verses for Long Kiss Goodnight, which was a Pac diss.

 

[SheerExcellence]

Biggie and puff shoulda looked out for him that night or at least held him down in jail

And releasing who shot ya was throwing fuel on the fire

Biggie essentially turned his back on who he was saying was his boy

 

[a_list]

Also.,.........................dumbasses will still think Who Shot Ya was about Tupac

Yea niggas act like albums dont have deadlines for songs to be in....RTD dropped in September, so the deadline was prolly sometime in August or late July....

Big did record the second and third verses after Pac was shot though. It mentioned being robbed for a Rolex, which we all know Pac was robbed for his Rolex lol. And the line "turned front page nigga".

I really wouldn't put it past Big though. This is the same dude who went to the radio station in LA after Pac died and spit his verses for Long Kiss Goodnight, which was a Pac diss.

Never heard that one b....Wont no third verse and that nigga aint mention nothing about anyone being robbed of a Rolex....He said, "Rolex on my arm"

 

[loch121]

Who didn't know this though?

 

[Jabu_Rule]

I don't see why Pac was so relaxed running through the city after talking all that shit in the papers about Hatian Jack after the rape charge. I guess he didn't know Hatian and Jimmy was people. Biggie didn't introduce them nor was he in that hotel room the day Tupac sealed his own fate.

 

[Turfaholic]

if he knew all along it was jimmy then why the fuck did he accuse biggie of the shooting? got that man killed for nothing.

He still might've thought that Biggie should've warned him. And Big was affiliated with Henchman.

No dude. BADBOY was being extorted by Henchman, n Biggie was the CASH COW..

U hit a nigga in his pocket,

All this is on Mackaveli.

And ontop of it all, who u think the public cares about more Jimmy Henchman or Biggie???

Infairness to Biggie. Pac was more affilated to Henchman n Jack then Biggie... PAC admitted himself, that Big warned him, n told them that the streets of NY are saying, "these r sheisty niggas", but Pac was hard headed....

yeah biggie even warned him in that notorious movie.

Yup. Notorious had allll

Wasn't dmx one of the shooters?

Lmao

Aye my cousin had me sold DMX was involved. He was like "Listen to the Ruff Ryders Anthem. Verse three. That nigga talkin bout Pac?" I was in the 8th grade like

 

[water ur seeds]

Also.,.........................dumbasses will still think Who Shot Ya was about Tupac

'slugs missed ya, I aint mad at cha, (nah we aint mad at cha)', it probably was tbf...

But like others have said, BIG warned Pac about who he was messing with...

Its an old subject, but the way I see it was, IMO BIG and Puff didn't want Pac to get shot, , but they probably knew what was up... BUT they (badboy) was already being, shall we say 'bossed' about by Henchman etc, and had they given Pac a heads up about the situation, they would of been 'disciplined' and the shoe could of been on the other foot at some point... Still, Pac expected extremely loyalty with his friends, Pac was showed the lengths he goes to regarding principles etc

But Puffy knows how to stay afloat in life and business, for me it seemed like that was one of them situations...

I can see why Pac was pissed at BadBoy though, but he knew it was also away to gain publicity and make record sales...

i dont know man ... we are all mainly going off of 2pacs versions of stuff that happened ... listening to this recent lil cease interview it doesnt seem like Puff was as close to hatian and jimmy as people are leading onto ...

i wish jack went a lil more specific cause hes acting like he never heard about the quad shooting before ... he never went back and specifically ask Cease if him or big or even puff seen 2pac that day ... the way cease explains the story they never even seen 2pac until they rolled his ass out of the building .... in the movie and even in pacs version he said he went into thier studio shot and looked into biggie and puffs eyes that day ..... the only thing that jives is that cease just happen to see pac walking up the block from the studio window and holler'ed @ him ...

I cant check the video atm... But it was by all accounts Henchman and co disciplining Pac, which everyone has always said... And Puff and them where in the studio at the time, so I cant see Puff and them not knowing something was up...

And if they where like most people say, apparently being extorted or being forced to hire them as security or whatever, then it goes to show theres no way BadBoy could do anything, so I can see them thinking theres nothing they can go but go along with the situation, even if they do like it...

Ye from what I heard Biggie warned Pac about Jimmy and his niggaz. Actually did care about PAC. FUCK Pac should have listen

pac was cool with potentially getting f*cked over by jimmy and them .... what he didnt respect is that biggie and them didnt help him as far as knowing who did it ... and yes its easier said than done but pac admitted had the same ish happen to biggies on the west coast HE WOULDNT RIDE but he would had @least let him know who did what to him ...

I still think its kinda corny that Pac directed most of his energy at the Biggie when he knew it was Jimmy that was behind the situation that resulted in him shooting himself in the nuts.

Biggie was his friend, but more importantly the cash cow of BadBoy, which in turn also makes Biggie a money maker for Henchman aswell, as he was apparently extorting BadBoy, so he was doing damage to Henchman if he was attacking Biggie... Plus it was also hyping beef between two rappers, going back and forth selling records, also Henchman was not one of the dopest rappers out, Biggie was haha

i dont know about this extortionist bs tho ... why would any artist work with this guy ijs ...?? and he would have to be the smoothest criminal ever cause its hard to pin puff and henchmen as working together in any shape or form ... and in light of the last 10 years we know jimmy is not the smoothest criminal ...

You dont choose to work with people like Tut, Henchman and Jack, you more then likely get forced to hire them as security... Puffs not stupid, he knows how operate in a swimming pool full of sharks...

Henchman practically ran a massive oppression for what, since the 80s??? or whatever turning over god knows how much money and holding mad power, like all people of that lifestyle though, since the begging of time, they either go to prison or die, but I would say he was a smooth criminal for along time haha

 

[water ur seeds]

Also Im sure I read ages go on that 'this is scolla' blog, that Mase said in 'Feels so good' the music video version, (while King Tut was in jail) something like 'Tutt cant give it up' or something whilst flashing his Rolex across the room, which, if this is true, would be a shot at King Tut about their apparent extorting of BadBoy...

In the official lyrics section 'Ho's ride, get your nut 'till I can't get it up'

Could be bullschitt though...

 

[The Prodigalson]

Also.,.........................dumbasses will still think Who Shot Ya was about Tupac

'slugs missed ya, I aint mad at cha, (nah we aint mad at cha)', it probably was tbf...

But like others have said, BIG warned Pac about who he was messing with...

Its an old subject, but the way I see it was, IMO BIG and Puff didn't want Pac to get shot, , but they probably knew what was up... BUT they (badboy) was already being, shall we say 'bossed' about by Henchman etc, and had they given Pac a heads up about the situation, they would of been 'disciplined' and the shoe could of been on the other foot at some point... Still, Pac expected extremely loyalty with his friends, Pac was showed the lengths he goes to regarding principles etc

But Puffy knows how to stay afloat in life and business, for me it seemed like that was one of them situations...

I can see why Pac was pissed at BadBoy though, but he knew it was also away to gain publicity and make record sales...

i dont know man ... we are all mainly going off of 2pacs versions of stuff that happened ... listening to this recent lil cease interview it doesnt seem like Puff was as close to hatian and jimmy as people are leading onto ...

i wish jack went a lil more specific cause hes acting like he never heard about the quad shooting before ... he never went back and specifically ask Cease if him or big or even puff seen 2pac that day ... the way cease explains the story they never even seen 2pac until they rolled his ass out of the building .... in the movie and even in pacs version he said he went into thier studio shot and looked into biggie and puffs eyes that day ..... the only thing that jives is that cease just happen to see pac walking up the block from the studio window and holler'ed @ him ...

So in Notorious Puff version of the movie why they had Pac in the studio with them if that's the way it went down?

 

[5 Grand]

What about those White cops Pac shot in Atlanta. How come nobody mentions them? They had an axe to grind with Pac and they probably had the connections too.

 

[S2J]

Jfk and mlk will be solved next week

BRUH...both of those were solved already. This wasnt unless you been paying attention...which I wasnt.

That's backwards. Unless you one of the people (new nggas) that thought Pac was just a raving lunatic, this was solved in 1996 in Against All Odds. And again a few years later...and again few yrs ago, etc

Jfk hasnt and never will be solved bc we'll never know the highest level of involvement. The lazy answer is LBJ but that aint true imo but i digress

 

[loch121]

I don't see why Pac was so relaxed running through the city after talking all that shit in the papers about Hatian Jack after the rape charge. I guess he didn't know Hatian and Jimmy was people. Biggie didn't introduce them nor was he in that hotel room the day Tupac sealed his own fate.

@FuriousOne‌ Pac got shot before he started riding on NY niggas.He started riding because he got shot

Before then Pac had been running around NY and of course you know he's from there

 

[loch121]

What about those White cops Pac shot in Atlanta. How come nobody mentions them? They had an axe to grind with Pac and they probably had the connections too.

The most likely and most overlooked,but simple answer to who killed Pac is that Orlando Anderson and them crips killed Pac after Death Row jumped him at the MGM.

It wasn't the government or aliens,or Puff

Pac's mom even said she's sure Pac's killer is already dead,because Orlando got killed and his OG uncle

Plus Edi from the Lawz said Pac and BIG died over some street shit

I believe that cop who came out like 2 yrs ago

He said inside the LAPD both cases are considered closed and they know who did both,but one is dead and the other can't be proven and would probably get LAPD in more trouble

 

[Jabu_Rule]

I don't see why Pac was so relaxed running through the city after talking all that shit in the papers about Hatian Jack after the rape charge. I guess he didn't know Hatian and Jimmy was people. Biggie didn't introduce them nor was he in that hotel room the day Tupac sealed his own fate.

@FuriousOne‌ Pac got shot before he started riding on NY niggas.He started riding because he got shot

Before then Pac had been running around NY and of course you know he's from there

I'm talking specifically about the event that landed him in jail. Jimmy Henchmen is cool with the same guy that was accused of sexually assaulting the girl that Tupac bought into his hotel room, Hatian Jack. After Tupac's lawyer, and even Tyson told him that it was something fishy about Jack, Tupac aired him out in the news. How does that not make you a target of these dudes. He also said that he felt some kind of way after seeing Biggie with Jack after Biggie warned him. So Tupac already had it in his head to be against the nigga's he was rolling with. He may have been right to be angry, but he was the one that chose to hang with those grimy dudes. One thing you gotta know about NYC is just because you from there, doesn't mean everybody your homie especially if you a getting money Harlem nigga hanging around thirsty Brooklyn stick up kids.

 

[Built 4 cuban linx]

People also forget that afeni filed a lawsuit against orlando anderson just before he died

 

[PapaDoc223]

What about those White cops Pac shot in Atlanta. How come nobody mentions them? They had an axe to grind with Pac and they probably had the connections too.

The most likely and most overlooked,but simple answer to who killed Pac is that Orlando Jones and them crips killed Pac after Death Row jumped him at the MGM.

It wasn't the government or aliens,or Puff

Pac's mom even said she's sure Pac's killer is already dead,because Orlando got killed and his OG uncle

Plus Edi from the Lawz said Pac and BIG died over some street shit

I believe that cop who came out like 2 yrs ago

He said inside the LAPD both cases are considered closed and they know who did both,but one is dead and the other can't be proven and would probably get LAPD in more trouble

Pretty obvious. Crip nigga gets jumped in Vegas which was at the time a grimy place in 90s. Pac gets killed. My issue is if LAPD knows and Las Vegas PD knows then why keep it a secret. I know for Biggies murder they say it a LAPD cop who was close to Suge and the Piru Bloods. In Pacs case there is no lead. Orlando Andersen got his ass beatdown and hours later Pac is dead. Then the Crips and the Bloods had a bloody gang war after Pac died. Which tells me the streets know and the cops know. Anyway I feel that in 20 years from now the truth will be revealed. A lot of those niggas will be like 60,70 years old.

 

[S2J]

What about those White cops Pac shot in Atlanta. How come nobody mentions them? They had an axe to grind with Pac and they probably had the connections too.

Soundin like a lil ngga. Cops are not nearly as powerful as you think, especially some,loval Atl ones, especially to get at a ngga like Pac. Cmon dude

Lapd is a whole different ballgame and even their power in all this was hightened by the Blood ties