Jay-Z - 'Magna Carta Holy Grail'

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buttuh_b;6094625 said:
reddog271;6094607 said:
buttuh_b;6094589 said:
So y'all doing the "You can't call Smush Parker trash because you're not good enough to play in the league" rhetoric. We're not talking about me or the fans or the stans. We're talking about the topic of discussion: Jay being insecure. Can what I said be refuted?

you are saying beating on his chest is a sign of him being insecure... I just don't agree with that view. 90% of people in rap beat on their chest in most of their songs. Problem is most of the chest beating by Jay seems to be true. I think that rubs people the wrong way

No I'm not talking about him stunting and being flashy about his money although most people who do that are insecure too (which is pretty much everbody aside from Bill Gates). I'm talking about his constant response to critics and the manner and tone he goes about it. The shit reminds me of a sophisticated child pouting. "My presence is philanthropy" and him not joking and actually trying to substantiate this foolish claim. It just seems like he cries whenever someone says he isn't perfect and he overcompensates.

ok.. I guess I just don't see it close to that way.
 
reddog271;6095288 said:
deathrowzorrow;6095111 said:
Nas had the better album

what does that have to do with anything?

He's always got nas on the brain

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IceBergTaylor;6093905 said:
Welp he said it himself on So Appalled "Die & Be a Hero or live long enough to see yourself become a villain"

Nigga quote that strong chin boy Harvey Dent for that.

I'm sure you knew that but why did you quote Jay-Z on that?
 
reddog271;6094381 said:
buttuh_b;6094088 said:
reddog271;6094061 said:
buttuh_b;6094043 said:
reddog271;6093996 said:
buttuh_b;6093950 said:
Nelson Mandella ain't have to die to become a goddamn hero.

Jay is the most insecure "icon" ever. Just stop b. Quit explaining yourself.

it's a quite from the Batman movie... name one thing the man has to be insecure about?

His legacy.

there are no wholes in Legacy. Maybe if he hadn't dropped American Gangster and MCHG people could say he stayed around to long. But you can't even say that at this point. He came out in 96. its' 2013 and he's still the #1 rapper in the game. He's legacy is fine

Doesnt mean he's not insecure. If he was secure he wouldn't have to make songs like "reminder" and constantly remind us of his accolades and accomplishments.

that's just like saying someone who doesn't like Jay Z doesn't have to go into every jay z thread trying to convince everyone that he isn't as good as people say he is.

Well damn

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I feel like the album is solid. But Jay is off. His flow is repetitive and too much bragging stuff on here. I know that is his life now. But I prefer the old Jigga. I grew up on that. He is not a great mc these days to me.
 
SnuffDaddy;6095618 said:
IceBergTaylor;6093905 said:
Welp he said it himself on So Appalled "Die & Be a Hero or live long enough to see yourself become a villain"

Nigga quote that strong chin boy Harvey Dent for that.

I'm sure you knew that but why did you quote Jay-Z on that?

lmao are you serious?

No, I didnt know Jay quoted the Dark Knight. I didnt know water was wet. I didnt kno shit was doo-doo brown. I didnt kno you were an idiot.
 

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