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usmarin3;6039587 said:CJ;6036056 said:Nas can ride any beat nigga
Frank killed that ocean hook
CJ;6036056 said:Nas can ride any beat nigga
Frank killed that ocean hook
Big Things off I AM begs to differ
Bruh................. that was 15 years ago.
No rapid fire?
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JDSTAYWITIT
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verbal juke;6039192 said:JDSTAYWITIT.;6038868 said:verbal juke;6038508 said:rip.dilla;6038461 said:Jay also responded to Robert DeNiro's rant at him last year ..
LOL
Exactly. The point I was making Jay is on some Emenim shit addressing actors, basketball players, sports agents,etc but when rappers disrespect, he get on some subliminal shit or dont respond at all. Facts only...lol
Nigga always say this shit ... Until he responds and crushes the niggas and it's like ......"oh ....ok"
Same thing niggas was saying about Cam and Jim until jay killed them niggas on that ballin remix ....
I'm trying to understand what niggas are implying by saying he won't respond to such n such? Is it that he has some fear of confrontation? Like what point is trying to be pushed across exactly ..
If he crushes them good, im a Jay Z fan. Why are you implying everyone who has an issue with Jay Z wishes fir his downfall?
What im implying is the inconsistencies that Jay Z demonstrates. Its that simple. You guys think its fine to call out Harry Belafonte, or Deshawn Stephenson but its cool to throw subliminals at Game or Wayne? Be consistent. Wayne is not everbody neither is Game. I just think its disgusting to speak on individuals who platform to respond is different but those with the same platform he treads water. Say what you want but this is fact.
Once again Im a Jay Z fan, check my post I probably been rocking with Jay way before some of you cats im just making a simple observation...
How did I "immmmply" anything when I was asking a question... ? (Hence these things "?" ...........get it......?) wouldn't that be the exact opposite ........?
That's that defensive/insecure shit u talkin... Lol ....cut that out nigga
Furthermore shit has nothing to do with consistency ..it's about being reasonable/realistic... The nigga has called out rappers his whole career yet niggas "pick" and "choose" when to use their memories ...If this nigga did a diss track for evey rapper that had something to say about him it probably would fill a double album...... Is that what niggaz expect? That's what niggas want to hear? every loud mouthed attention seeking rapper you gotta answer to? cos that's "consistent"?
How is it "disgusting" to speak on someone because the platforms are "different" when all individuals involved have the same ability to speak directly to the public? For example ..Isn't that how Mr.Belafonte found himself in the "crossfire" to begin with? Speaking to the public? He wasn't speaking on another niggas name from the comforts of his home... He publicly went out of his way and used a provided platform to make those statements .....that's not "disgusting" tho..that's "cool" right? ....Say what you want but these are facts ...right?
It's funy how y'all niggas try to make shit seem like it's so dramatically unequal lol like these cats don't have access to go to any media outlet/twitter/blog etc etc etc etc and "defend themselves" against big bad jayz ....like we live in the stone ages and Jay is the only one with this majestic ability to be "heard"
And why do niggas try to buffer their opinions by writing "yo yo yo .....I'm a fan it ain't even like that" lol .... As if you can't say some dumb shit about a thing your a fan of ....like a Knicks or Lakers fan can't have a dumb ass opinion on their team... Lol
Bruh if that's your opinion that's ok.... stand by it ... don't try to use "I'm a fan" as if thats some key to making ur shit rationale ..
And for the record in the case of Harry Belofonte BOTH them Bruthas too damn old and aware of "platforms" to be sending anything that could be considered a shot at each other in the publics eyes ...that's not a good look on either side they should know how to pick up telephones and hash shit out personally if there's even a discrepancy to begin with
verbal juke
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JDSTAYWITIT.;6039973 said:verbal juke;6039192 said:JDSTAYWITIT.;6038868 said:verbal juke;6038508 said:rip.dilla;6038461 said:Jay also responded to Robert DeNiro's rant at him last year ..
LOL
Exactly. The point I was making Jay is on some Emenim shit addressing actors, basketball players, sports agents,etc but when rappers disrespect, he get on some subliminal shit or dont respond at all. Facts only...lol
Nigga always say this shit ... Until he responds and crushes the niggas and it's like ......"oh ....ok"
Same thing niggas was saying about Cam and Jim until jay killed them niggas on that ballin remix ....
I'm trying to understand what niggas are implying by saying he won't respond to such n such? Is it that he has some fear of confrontation? Like what point is trying to be pushed across exactly ..
If he crushes them good, im a Jay Z fan. Why are you implying everyone who has an issue with Jay Z wishes fir his downfall?
What im implying is the inconsistencies that Jay Z demonstrates. Its that simple. You guys think its fine to call out Harry Belafonte, or Deshawn Stephenson but its cool to throw subliminals at Game or Wayne? Be consistent. Wayne is not everbody neither is Game. I just think its disgusting to speak on individuals who platform to respond is different but those with the same platform he treads water. Say what you want but this is fact.
Once again Im a Jay Z fan, check my post I probably been rocking with Jay way before some of you cats im just making a simple observation...
How did I "immmmply" anything when I was asking a question... ? (Hence these things "?" ...........get it......?) wouldn't that be the exact opposite ........?
That's that defensive/insecure shit u talkin... Lol ....cut that out nigga
Furthermore shit has nothing to do with consistency ..it's about being reasonable/realistic... The nigga has called out rappers his whole career yet niggas "pick" and "choose" when to use their memories ...If this nigga did a diss track for evey rapper that had something to say about him it probably would fill a double album...... Is that what niggaz expect? That's what niggas want to hear? every loud mouthed attention seeking rapper you gotta answer to? cos that's "consistent"?
How is it "disgusting" to speak on someone because the platforms are "different" when all individuals involved have the same ability to speak directly to the public? For example ..Isn't that how Mr.Belafonte found himself in the "crossfire" to begin with? Speaking to the public? He wasn't speaking on another niggas name from the comforts of his home... He publicly went out of his way and used a provided platform to make those statements .....that's not "disgusting" tho..that's "cool" right? ....Say what you want but these are facts ...right?
It's funy how y'all niggas try to make shit seem like it's so dramatically unequal lol like these cats don't have access to go to any media outlet/twitter/blog etc etc etc etc and "defend themselves" against big bad jayz ....like we live in the stone ages and Jay is the only one with this majestic ability to be "heard"
And why do niggas try to buffer their opinions by writing "yo yo yo .....I'm a fan it ain't even like that" lol .... As if you can't say some dumb shit about a thing your a fan of ....like a Knicks or Lakers fan can't have a dumb ass opinion on their team... Lol
Bruh if that's your opinion that's ok.... stand by it ... don't try to use "I'm a fan" as if thats some key to making ur shit rationale ..
And for the record in the case of Harry Belofonte BOTH them Bruthas too damn old and aware of "platforms" to be sending anything that could be considered a shot at each other in the publics eyes ...that's not a good look on either side they should know how to pick up telephones and hash shit out personally if there's even a discrepancy to begin with
The implication you made came from the response you made in your previous statement. "Niggas always say this until he responds..."
Defensive and insecure? Im not following you. What do I have to be insecure about? We are talking about music. Moreover, its about someone neither of us know. I'm good. Lets keep it relevant to the topic, that insecure shit means nothing.
Once again, I never said he needs to reply to everyone, all I have said is show consistency. Jay Z has the propensity to respond to every non rapper but he throws subliminals at individuals in his "sport" thus the same platform. Show the same fervor for Lil Wayne and Game as you do for Harry Belafonte and Scott Boras. Its that simple.
As far as saying im a fan essentially goes to differentiating myself from "Stans" who feel vested in an outcome, Im simply a fan discussing an issue with a rap artist who I happen to support.
JDSTAYWITIT
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verbal juke;6040072 said:JDSTAYWITIT.;6039973 said:verbal juke;6039192 said:JDSTAYWITIT.;6038868 said:verbal juke;6038508 said:rip.dilla;6038461 said:Jay also responded to Robert DeNiro's rant at him last year ..
LOL
Exactly. The point I was making Jay is on some Emenim shit addressing actors, basketball players, sports agents,etc but when rappers disrespect, he get on some subliminal shit or dont respond at all. Facts only...lol
Nigga always say this shit ... Until he responds and crushes the niggas and it's like ......"oh ....ok"
Same thing niggas was saying about Cam and Jim until jay killed them niggas on that ballin remix ....
I'm trying to understand what niggas are implying by saying he won't respond to such n such? Is it that he has some fear of confrontation? Like what point is trying to be pushed across exactly ..
If he crushes them good, im a Jay Z fan. Why are you implying everyone who has an issue with Jay Z wishes fir his downfall?
What im implying is the inconsistencies that Jay Z demonstrates. Its that simple. You guys think its fine to call out Harry Belafonte, or Deshawn Stephenson but its cool to throw subliminals at Game or Wayne? Be consistent. Wayne is not everbody neither is Game. I just think its disgusting to speak on individuals who platform to respond is different but those with the same platform he treads water. Say what you want but this is fact.
Once again Im a Jay Z fan, check my post I probably been rocking with Jay way before some of you cats im just making a simple observation...
How did I "immmmply" anything when I was asking a question... ? (Hence these things "?" ...........get it......?) wouldn't that be the exact opposite ........?
That's that defensive/insecure shit u talkin... Lol ....cut that out nigga
Furthermore shit has nothing to do with consistency ..it's about being reasonable/realistic... The nigga has called out rappers his whole career yet niggas "pick" and "choose" when to use their memories ...If this nigga did a diss track for evey rapper that had something to say about him it probably would fill a double album...... Is that what niggaz expect? That's what niggas want to hear? every loud mouthed attention seeking rapper you gotta answer to? cos that's "consistent"?
How is it "disgusting" to speak on someone because the platforms are "different" when all individuals involved have the same ability to speak directly to the public? For example ..Isn't that how Mr.Belafonte found himself in the "crossfire" to begin with? Speaking to the public? He wasn't speaking on another niggas name from the comforts of his home... He publicly went out of his way and used a provided platform to make those statements .....that's not "disgusting" tho..that's "cool" right? ....Say what you want but these are facts ...right?
It's funy how y'all niggas try to make shit seem like it's so dramatically unequal lol like these cats don't have access to go to any media outlet/twitter/blog etc etc etc etc and "defend themselves" against big bad jayz ....like we live in the stone ages and Jay is the only one with this majestic ability to be "heard"
And why do niggas try to buffer their opinions by writing "yo yo yo .....I'm a fan it ain't even like that" lol .... As if you can't say some dumb shit about a thing your a fan of ....like a Knicks or Lakers fan can't have a dumb ass opinion on their team... Lol
Bruh if that's your opinion that's ok.... stand by it ... don't try to use "I'm a fan" as if thats some key to making ur shit rationale ..
And for the record in the case of Harry Belofonte BOTH them Bruthas too damn old and aware of "platforms" to be sending anything that could be considered a shot at each other in the publics eyes ...that's not a good look on either side they should know how to pick up telephones and hash shit out personally if there's even a discrepancy to begin with
The implication you made came from the response you made in your previous statement. "Niggas always say this until he responds..."
Defensive and insecure? Im not following you. What do I have to be insecure about? We are talking about music. Moreover, its about someone neither of us know. I'm good. Lets keep it relevant to the topic, that insecure shit means nothing.
Once again, I never said he needs to reply to everyone, all I have said is show consistency. Jay Z has the propensity to respond to every non rapper but he throws subliminals at individuals in his "sport" thus the same platform. Show the same fervor for Lil Wayne and Game as you do for Harry Belafonte and Scott Boras. Its that simple.
As far as saying im a fan essentially goes to differentiating myself from "Stans" who feel vested in an outcome, Im simply a fan discussing an issue with a rap artist who I happen to support.
Meehhhh how do you get the implication that I think "everyone who has an issue with Jay Z wishes for his downfall" out of me saying that niggas always use the same talking points about this dude? How do those two concepts really even correlate as to draw out that kind of implication?
Don't you think that's a tad bit presumptuous and or overreactionary ....maybe even jumping to conclusions on your part? Why the need to rationalize what I said in that way (especially after I gave sound reasoning and a factual example to back my point up? and especially after I went on to again ask what the reasoning behind such kinds of talking points could be..thus implying me searching for the answer due to not having a concrete understanding of this point of veiw..... ) Unless of course ... There were some security issues in you believing what you were saying?
Hmmm .... I don't know .... By all means tho ... If I was wrong in my assessment ... My apologies guy
This is the thing tho ... Scott Boras is in his "sport"...right? same occupations ...no? i mean We can point to plenty O' rapper he actually has responded to... Sooo unless you are in fact saying something to the effect of he needs to respond to even more or all people who have something to say this talking point really holds no weight.... I mean what's the acceptable ratio? 1 reply for every 3 disses? 1 for every 4? Does he need a tally board? As I'm sure these numbers can become daunting ...lol does he have to muster up the "fervor" and respond to them in a certain time frame to be acceptable? how does 6 months sound? Idk Maybe the "fervor" gets put on hold only to be unleashed a year later like he did with Belafonte? ...you tell me
Look ....my point ...is merely that ...your talking point is based in far too much unreasonableness to be realistic.
Rubato Garcia
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dalyricalbandit;6038687 said:in other words all the Beats on MCHG should been Nas's
He literally would have sounded better on every other song save for maybe Tom Ford
soul rattler;6038326 said:aneed123;6035918 said:im just saying... he called a older establish black man a boy cuz of a difference of opinion... not cool but Game can be real disrespectful... take 2 years to answer Wayne... Im just saying
"Jay-z turned his back on social responsibility" is an accusation that's either true or false, not an opinion.
An opinion would be "Jay-Z should do more for society". Belafonte's statements went further than that, and to expect a man not to be offended is crazy. No one, not even Harry Belafonte, is above reproach.
U don't call him a boy.... But keep ur mouth shut when rap niggas disrespect u
IceBergTaylor
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Oh yeh, Jay should respond to Game & Wayne, 2 Hova stans, ironic.
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texasdaking88
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aneed123;6040602 said:soul rattler;6038326 said:aneed123;6035918 said:im just saying... he called a older establish black man a boy cuz of a difference of opinion... not cool but Game can be real disrespectful... take 2 years to answer Wayne... Im just saying
"Jay-z turned his back on social responsibility" is an accusation that's either true or false, not an opinion.
An opinion would be "Jay-Z should do more for society". Belafonte's statements went further than that, and to expect a man not to be offended is crazy. No one, not even Harry Belafonte, is above reproach.
U don't call him a boy.... But keep ur mouth shut when rap niggas disrespect u
Who did he keep his mouth shut about?
Coxnation123
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Isnt it possible niggas like wayne and game just dont matter as much but when a "significant" figure (bellafonte, boras, sharpton, oreilly etc.) says something thats bigger than "I dont drive maybachs" or empty entertainment threats about kidnapping beyonce It touches a cord that makes him want to respond specifically?
Coxnation123;6041744 said:Isnt it possible niggas like wayne and game just dont matter as much but when a "significant" figure (bellafonte, boras, sharpton, oreilly etc.) says something thats bigger than "I dont drive maybachs" or empty entertainment threats about kidnapping beyonce It touches a cord that makes him want to respond specifically?
This too. As much as people want the threat of rap beef to be real, the people IN IT know better
I.e.- Who knew Jay and Baby was cool and have a history?...knowin that, u can see why jay or baby aint trippin. They know its just a business
A1000MILES
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^^ Fuck wit him, you know he got it...
rip.dilla;6042418 said:At my balcony blazing a blunt as I post. .
Jay performing live a couple boroughs from mine as I post . .
Can actually hear him performing ..
Wireless...
*envy post...
Maximilyan
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I see a lot of "this rapper would have killed that shit"
Those rappers need to kill l thier own shit first, then maybe id be convinced.
Its no coincidence jay still at the top of the game. Dude is business savy and talented.
If he was just business savy, he'd be irrelavent now like 50. And if he was just talented, he'd be like the endless list of talented rappers that get no attention.
Those rappers need to kill l thier own shit first, then maybe id be convinced.
Its no coincidence jay still at the top of the game. Dude is business savy and talented.
If he was just business savy, he'd be irrelavent now like 50. And if he was just talented, he'd be like the endless list of talented rappers that get no attention.
Disciplined InSight
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texasdaking88;6040699 said:aneed123;6040602 said:soul rattler;6038326 said:aneed123;6035918 said:im just saying... he called a older establish black man a boy cuz of a difference of opinion... not cool but Game can be real disrespectful... take 2 years to answer Wayne... Im just saying
"Jay-z turned his back on social responsibility" is an accusation that's either true or false, not an opinion.
An opinion would be "Jay-Z should do more for society". Belafonte's statements went further than that, and to expect a man not to be offended is crazy. No one, not even Harry Belafonte, is above reproach.
U don't call him a boy.... But keep ur mouth shut when rap niggas disrespect u
Who did he keep his mouth shut about?
Did he say anything about Robert DeNiro?
A1000MILES
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Disciplined InSight;6042854 said:texasdaking88;6040699 said:aneed123;6040602 said:soul rattler;6038326 said:aneed123;6035918 said:im just saying... he called a older establish black man a boy cuz of a difference of opinion... not cool but Game can be real disrespectful... take 2 years to answer Wayne... Im just saying
"Jay-z turned his back on social responsibility" is an accusation that's either true or false, not an opinion.
An opinion would be "Jay-Z should do more for society". Belafonte's statements went further than that, and to expect a man not to be offended is crazy. No one, not even Harry Belafonte, is above reproach.
U don't call him a boy.... But keep ur mouth shut when rap niggas disrespect u
Who did he keep his mouth shut about?
Did he say anything about Robert DeNiro?
Yes...
