Jay-Z - 'Magna Carta Holy Grail'

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marcusgarvey;6031459 said:
Album ain't better than Vol 1 or AG

MCHG is easily than both those albums. MCHG has no bad songs on it imo, Vol 1 clearly has three (Sunshine, What girls like and Face off) and American Gangster is dope, it lacks the entertainment and balance than MCHG has.

 
American Gangster to me is his best album post-'retirement' .. And I still think its a good and not a great album

Nice smooth beats, crafty bars/rhymes and the theme/concepts with the film of the same name ..

That's the thing with Jay though, he kinda always makes you go back to appreciate his old stuff when the new music is lacking

I don't need to listen to an album more than once to "feel" it. ..

I've just saved 3 or 4 songs from MCHG - the rest have been recycled
 
rip.dilla;6031634 said:
American Gangster to me is his best album post-'retirement' .. And I still think its a good and not a great album

Nice smooth beats, crafty bars/rhymes and the theme/concepts with the film of the same name ..

That's the thing with Jay though, he kinda always makes you go back to appreciate his old stuff when the new music is lacking

I don't need to listen to an album more than once to "feel" it. ..

I've just saved 3 or 4 songs from MCHG - the rest have been recycled

albums I didn't "feel" on the first listen

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not comparing MCHG to these albums but everybody is different. every listener doesn't fully grasp the album on first listen so I don't give people flack for listening to albums multiple times before giving a final verdict
 
Already Home_17;6031762 said:
rip.dilla;6031634 said:
American Gangster to me is his best album post-'retirement' .. And I still think its a good and not a great album

Nice smooth beats, crafty bars/rhymes and the theme/concepts with the film of the same name ..

That's the thing with Jay though, he kinda always makes you go back to appreciate his old stuff when the new music is lacking

I don't need to listen to an album more than once to "feel" it. ..

I've just saved 3 or 4 songs from MCHG - the rest have been recycled

albums I didn't "feel" on the first listen

late registration

reasonable doubt

the chronic

aquemeni

illmatic

I listened to that shit ONE time when I copped it and I knew it was a classic .. With a blunt of course
 
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Another thing with Jay-z albums is niggas always overreact and don't let his shit soak in. To me rappers like Jay and Lupe takes some time to get the subtle shit they say because they layer their albums with so much below the surface shit.
 
Lol @ listening to an album once and making judgement...

I know for a fact I could go back to some great/classic 90s hiphop and pick up something I missed or have a completely different opinion on it, as I have a different perspective on life since I've grown. Always catch things when I listen to Big Pun first album...

Also don't get why people delete songs from albums and only keep their favourites...each album is a part of history. Who's to know how you gonna feel about that album in 10 years?
 
usmarin3;6031562 said:
marcusgarvey;6031459 said:
Album ain't better than Vol 1 or AG

MCHG is easily than both those albums. MCHG has no bad songs on it imo, Vol 1 clearly has three (Sunshine, What girls like and Face off) and American Gangster is dope, it lacks the entertainment and balance than MCHG has.

Entertainment don't stick as much long term. Its just prisoner of the moment talk

I can bet money in 3,4 months i won't be listening to many of these songs. And not b/c their bad songs, but b/c once the thrill wears off, and there's no real lyrical depth to go back and 'vibe ' to....you gon be onto the next one. For example, when was the last time you proactively searchd and just HAD to listen to...On To the Next oNe?

On the flipside, I'll pop in Sweet, No Hook, Lucky Me, Imaginary Player, You must Love me, etc all the time just to listen to the deep shyt he was sayin. This album doesnt have that as much, not even close.

usmarin3;6031835 said:
Another thing with Jay-z albums is niggas always overreact and don't let his shit soak in. To me rappers like Jay and Lupe takes some time to get the subtle shit they say because they layer their albums with so much below the surface shit.

Cmon man, you know beter than to lump old jay z albums with the new. He is not as layered lyrically as he used to be.
 
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There's only bout 3-4 tracks that are dope from jump in here. I'll listen again soon.

I'm not really feeling the beat selection, this shit sound a little like It and Yeezus were recorded around the same time but Hov put a little more effort
 
jono;6032201 said:
There's only bout 3-4 tracks that are dope from jump in here. I'll listen again soon.

I'm not really feeling the beat selection, this shit sound a little like It and Yeezus were recorded around the same time but Hov put a little more effort

my ears don't bleed when I listen to this album bruh.

yeezus was some other shit. the volume has to be turned down just to be cautious

 
gocanucks1916;6032357 said:

so even without the Samsung deal jay would've done his average first week numbers

s2jepeka;6031363 said:
Jay-Z in his own words:

"Right now i have it at #4, but ya know, its fresh, so that can change."

You can take that to mean it can go UP and pass RD, BP, and BA (he's not stupid)

Or it means even he admits once the newness wears off, he'll come down to earth. Just like I've been sayin.

......or maybe he really feels it's his fourth best album

 
nj2089;6026280 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMmremi_iJA&feature=c4-overview&list=UUwNzLpk33dblyY2Gg-SyPxw

This review video is real interesting to me .... It kind of sums up a lot of the discussion this album has sparked ...

The nigga on the right is clearly a "Jigga Warrior" and he in that thang fighting for his life against his homies ... Lol

But the telling thing in this video to me would have to be Kinge & Myke ... To me they epitomize the disgruntled and disenfranchised Jay fan who would rather boggle their minds with confusion and overcomplication rather than to simply just allow the artist to be in the moment and judge the music off of that..

I mean just look at what Myke says (paraphrasing)

"yeah you know that Picaso shit I was getting into ... I was liking the way he was flipping the artist names and the energy........................................but then I realized its just more money talk!! ............. I ain't feelin it no mo"

Might as well have said..

"That nigga jigga alllllllllmost got me!"

Lol.. it's like the nigga went all out of his way to find a reason to basically force himself to stop liking what he naturally felt was dope ... Same bizarre thing I see with some comments on here "yeah that line is witty it's clever.......but these lyrics are WACK nigga fell off!" Lol ... Niggas are literally trying to find anything to critique ... Not saying the album is perfect by any means but that whole mentality and type of hyper criticism (without being able to appreciate the redeeming qualities of a project) is funny to me
 


s2jepeka;6031363 said:
Jay-Z in his own words:

"Right now i have it at #4, but ya know, its fresh, so that can change."

You can take that to mean it can go UP and pass RD, BP, and BA (he's not stupid)

Or it means even he admits once the newness wears off, he'll come down to earth. Just like I've been sayin.

You can say this album damn near every new album that comes out, everyone always overreacts to everything, so he didn't say anything profound there...
 
marcusgarvey;6031459 said:
Album ain't better than Vol 1 or AG

I just think those albums were more street oriented (as a whole) and that's why some will gravitate to them more

Cos those albums both have some valleys ..
 
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