J Cole Needs MMG

[ShencotheMC]

What is so blasphemous about that? All that nigga is is a rapper who made the right moves. And that's the same thing Ross has been doin...EVER SINCE JAY-Z SIGNED HIM TO DEF JAM 6 YEARS AGO...I really feel like y'all are just comparin their rap careers and album sales rather than the actual moves that both of their teams are making right now in the present...

Are we talking about teams or just overall business moves? If so, I would still say that the Live nation deal is doing damage for RN's team. They prolly getting more money for shows than they should

 

[tompetrez3]

He needs to try harder? Dude if Cole doesn't want help, he doesn't want help. What y'all want him to bust in the studio and tell him he can either do what he tells him and work with the producers he wants or else he gets dropped from the label? lol

hell yeah drop his lazy faggot ass off the label. thats whats wrong with you backpackers. you bill yourself as pure gold but have yall tanks on E when its time to actually grind. producing on a mixtape is nothing compared to working on an album. if j cole want to be a stubborn preggo bitch thats cool but his fans and the consumers are missing out on hearing some quality production that can actually showcase his below average bullshit lyrics. either way the cut go he detoxed himself. when and if his album ever sees the light of day it will already be incomplete and imperfect by default. if he wanna be underground cool then release the album with that sappy, boring ass self production without all this the summer mine, i got next bullshit. j cole aint in no lane. he on the breakdown median desperate as hell to get his career cranked. nigga wont call a tow truck or help because he got his kufi on tight. meanwhile cars are just passing him up. first it was drake. bob. now sean, khalifa. krit. nigga better get his shit together because he gonna get steamrolled and folded staying out there stranded

 

[poindexter2]

y?

aint like jayz losin sleep or money..

he is losing money. not alot but a loss is a loss. its like a company who doesn't want to give workers overtime. it may be pennies compared to revenue but its still money they have to pay out none the less. i'm pretty sure some one with the buisness savvy of jay-z is watching every dollar

 

[ShencotheMC]

he is losing money. not alot but a loss is a loss. its like a company who doesn't want to give workers overtime. it may be pennies compared to revenue but its still money they have to pay out none the less. i'm pretty sure some one with the buisness savvy of jay-z is watching every dollar

So dropping dude instead of giving him a chance to recoup his losses is the smart way to go?

 

[poindexter2]

So dropping dude instead of giving him a chance to recoup his losses is the smart way to go?

no but telling him to let us handle this is

 

[ShencotheMC]

no but telling him to let us handle this is

Nah that's called controlling what your artists do and being just like all these labels such as atlantic and warner

 

[poindexter2]

Nah that's called controlling what your artists do and being just like all these labels such as atlantic and warner

if its got to be done to recoup losses than so be it. they have invested a lot of money into this guys career. at the end of the day its a business and jay-z is trying to maximize his profits

 

[tompetrez3]

him and jay z dont have no type of working relationship. i have never seen them pictured together. niggas ask him when the last time he spoke with Jay Z this bitch ass nigga broke out in the story about how he met beyonce in the studio 3 years ago. gtfoh j cole. nigga probably be talking that do it myself bullshit because Jay Z and that invisible roc nation a/r team dont have no type of enthusiasm about having him signed or creating his album. Jay Z dont HAVE to be nowhere. nigga is worth 450 million. if he can rent out the floor at a upscale hotel with another man (while his bored, unfucked, uncreampied wife at home...smh) he can sit in and pull a few all nighters and just give cole some feedback, ideas or even a verse or 2.

 

[Miles HIGH]

Are we talking about teams or just overall business moves? If so, I would still say that the Live nation deal is doing damage for RN's team. They prolly getting more money for shows than they should

Overall moves...The point T/S is tryna make is that is seems that the people handling J. Cole right now are failing on the marketing and promotion tip...Where as the artists on MMG are constantly releasin videos, interviews, and music to stay current...

And that's clearly the case...So tryin to minimize the strategies that Ross and his team are usin, just because Jay-Z and his team have a bigger name is pointless...

However, I personally agree that at the end of the day there's not much more that they can "do" for Cole than he can have "done" for him right now...If a artist don't have they shit together, it doesn't matter who you put behind them...And it's lookin like Cole's team is startin to finally get their shit together, but it's been a slow start, and in today's industry niggas think that if you don't come out the gate swingin and capitalize on every opportunity for a buzz you gon fail...

 

[ShencotheMC]

if its got to be done to recoup losses than so be it. they have invested a lot of money into this guys career. at the end of the day its a business and jay-z is trying to maximize his profits

So you have no problem with what Atlantic did to B.o.b. or Lupe Fiasco?

 

[DayDay34]

him and jay z dont have no type of working relationship. i have never seen them pictured together. niggas ask him when the last time he spoke with Jay Z this bitch ass nigga broke out in the story about how he met beyonce in the studio 3 years ago. gtfoh j cole. nigga probably be talking that do it myself bullshit because Jay Z and that invisible roc nation a/r team dont have no type of enthusiasm about having him signed or creating his album. Jay Z dont HAVE to be nowhere. nigga is worth 450 million. if he can rent out the floor at a upscale hotel with another man (while his bored, unfucked, uncreampied wife at home...smh) he can sit in and pull a few all nighters and just give cole some feedback, ideas or even a verse or 2.

real shit boi. somebody up those pics with jigga chilling with big sean lol .

 

[MAKAVELI25]

real shit boi. somebody up those pics with jigga chilling with big sean lol .

Smh @ you not being able to make your own points. Ole'-cross-my-fingers-and-hope-tompetrez-appears ass nigga

 

[poindexter2]

So you have no problem with what Atlantic did to B.o.b. or Lupe Fiasco?

whats wrong with some one giving you a song? you didn't know that thats how the music business operates? labels have been doing that since the beginning of the music industry its not like they didn't write their own verses.

 

[MAKAVELI25]

whats wrong with some one giving you a song? you didn't know that thats how the music business operates? labels have been doing that since the beginning of the music industry its not like they didn't write their own verses.

Are you serious? "Lasers" was fucking terrible. That new single with Trey Songz is hard to listen to for anybody who's been a Lupe fan since FnL

 

[hhh thats me]

i'm trippin off ross being hot at the moment

he been goin gold since 06

platinum artists can't even get release dates

but a gold nigga can drop a compilation album a month after everybody on the album is signed

j.cole can't even find the right single to put out

tupac back>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>workout

not that j.cole needs mmg

he doesn't

not that j.cole is wack

he isn't

but don't act like ross is just fucked up and lookin lost like say jeezy or the game

Very good point; Ross seriously seems to know exactly what the hell he's doing.. And knowing your shit might be a given for anyone aiming to be a boss but every move this dude makes seems to be the right one.. At least right now.. It's not by chance that he still is very popular.

 

[DayDay34]

makaveli change your damn avi nigga you lost the damn bet. put that old ass pic of big sean and kanye from 06.

 

[MAKAVELI25]

makaveli change your damn avi nigga you lost the damn bet. put that old ass pic of big sean and kanye from 06.

Lank to the proof? I ain't seen final numbers yet

 

[BackInWhite]

Well hes certainly a bigger artist than Wale imo, J Coles popularity and fanbase is underrated.

bigger artist than wale?

in your opinion

but your opinion is wrong as fuck

niggas is droppin albums out here, b

niggas got videos and singles on the charts

niggas is known

no hands>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>j.cole's career

and that's not even wale's song but it reached people who didn't know who he was

and wasn't checkin for him at all

j.cole ain't doin that

the only song he on that might do that just so happens to be a MMG song

 

[Miles HIGH]

bigger artist than wale?

in your opinion

but your opinion is wrong as fuck

niggas is droppin albums out here, b

niggas got videos and singles on the charts

niggas is known

no hands>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>j.cole's career

and that's not even wale's song but it reached people who didn't know who he was

and wasn't checkin for him at all

j.cole ain't doin that

the only song he on that might do that just so happens to be a MMG song

Exactly, when people say Wale ain't got a fan base, I just SMH. Dude album was just undershipped, and underpromoted. That nigga been touring INTERNATIONALLY since like '07. He got damn near 1,000,000 followers on Twitter...And he only gainin more fans every day cause he constantly outchea...That's not to say Cole doesn't have a fan base, but damn sure not bigger than Wale...

 

[DayDay34]

bigger artist than wale?

in your opinion

but your opinion is wrong as fuck

niggas is droppin albums out here, b

niggas got videos and singles on the charts

niggas is known

no hands>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>j.cole's career

and that's not even wale's song but it reached people who didn't know who he was

and wasn't checkin for him at all

j.cole ain't doin that

the only song he on that might do that just so happens to be a MMG song

real shit boi