J Cole Needs MMG

[#1 pick]

Re-up........

 

[2Fresh2def]

The only credible fuckin post in this thread. And Shencos. All the niggas in this thread are either mmg stans or constant j.cole haters. Too much bias in this thread to be taken seriously.

j cole allhiphop threads do not equal out to album sales... i like cole but i agree that if he was on mmg, he would get way more promo and that spotlight that he needs to take it to the next level

 

[idoitforhiphop10]

J Cole wouldnt fit on MMG. They are street orientated and hes opposite.

i thought the same thing about wale at first, but he adjusted well.

 

[StillDreaming]

Ambition will be better than Sideline story

 

[idoitforhiphop10]

Ambition will be better than Sideline story

no sign.......

 

[#1 pick]

i thought the same thing about wale at first, but he adjusted well.

Yep, nuff said.

[video=youtube;0QbE4qy7KBg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QbE4qy7KBg&feature=fvwrel[/video]

 

[#1 pick]

Yea he adjusted but Wale is a little more rough around the Edges than J Cole. A Hipster African with Dreads from DC just LOOKS more street than some Half and Half College kid from NC.....

Drake in YM. They didn't seem to fit before Drake help create his culture within the group. Same for Nicki. If you are given the beats, the support, and the funding then the talent will generally shine. J. Cole has talent, it the other things he lacked with Roc Nation. J. Cole could be a star with MMG as long as he has the drive which is evident. Ross knows talent and I bet he's made a call to Cole already. Cole can still keep his fanbase he has now but now he will get a superior support group with the full attention and funding he lacks now. He will shine with MMG. MMG is creating a real hip hop Dream Team. I still remember the first time I heard this song:

[video=youtube;9GtsgpDJawc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GtsgpDJawc&feature=related[/video]

I knew Hip Hop still had some life left.

 

[DMTxTHC]

Ambition will be better than Sideline story

Ambition will be better than Cole World based off Bad Girls Club? which featured J. Cole and was produced by J. Cole?

Cole World 9/27.

[video=youtube;WwIafCfhInM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwIafCfhInM[/video]

 

[CJ]

Ambition will be better than Sideline story

Doubt it, although it should be it's wales 2nd album.

 

[#1 pick]

Drake and Nicki really fit themselfs into Young money and they both were at a point were their fanbase didnt care either way because most never heard of them. J cole fanbase isnt fully set but if he switches his style an INCH they will drop him like a bad habit. And Ross is not that big of a star like Wayne where he can usher in an entire new fanbase and it will be do J Cole really MAJOR justice.

As far as beats im sure Jay tried to hook J Cole up but J Cole credits hmself on his beat making ability (Dont really know why but still). I can tell that he wants to be able to say "I produced my whole album". And thats something Ross or Hov cant fix.

Ross seems to be a business man over all. He is more like Def Jam in the 80's and is trying to build his artists to be as big or bigger than him. Lady Gaga is under Akon label, I haven't seen Gaga doing anything like Akon since she's been signed by his label. Is Teedra Moses spitting bars now? Even Wale isn't on that really hard rapper tip. In fact, even Meek isn't. He is versatile than that. I give credit to Ross where it's due. He is doing everything a great businessman should do so far. Giving all his artist shine. Improving their skills and packaging them for success. They have the talent, they just need to get to the next level. Internet talk comes and goes. I remember when Papoose was the biggest name on this forum outside of the main cats in the game like 50, Game, and others in the mid 2000's. He has dropped off the face of the planet it seems.

You have to ride the wave and jump on a good team. Jay-Z is like the Washington Wizards with Jordan. It has MJ but he's not good as an executive. But you respect him for his impact and imprint on hip hop as an artist. But is that a good team to develop on? No. Right now, MMG has the best development team for a rapper with skills over everyone. YM is the best if you want to be a mainstream superstar. Grand Hustle is good as well but not on MMG or YMCMB level. The rest is average or worst.

 

[2Fresh2def]

Doubt it, although it should be it's wales 2nd album.

damn .... #ethered and i gotta agree.... i was highly let down with that wale eleven one eleven.... the beats were horrible besides barry sanders

 

[idoitforhiphop10]

Ross seems to be a business man over all. He is more like Def Jam in the 80's and is trying to build his artists to be as big or bigger than him. Lady Gaga is under Akon label, I haven't seen Gaga doing anything like Akon since she's been signed by his label. Is Teedra Moses spitting bars now? Even Wale isn't on that really hard rapper tip. In fact, even Meek isn't. He is versatile than that. I give credit to Ross where it's due. He is doing everything a great businessman should do so far. Giving all his artist shine. Improving their skills and packaging them for success. They have the talent, they just need to get to the next level. Internet talk comes and goes. I remember when Papoose was the biggest name on this forum outside of the main cats in the game like 50, Game, and others in the mid 2000's. He has dropped off the face of the planet it seems.

You have to ride the wave and jump on a good team. Jay-Z is like the Washington Wizards with Jordan. It has MJ but he's not good as an executive. But you respect him for his impact and imprint on hip hop as an artist. But is that a good team to develop on? No. Right now, MMG has the best development team for a rapper with skills over everyone. YM is the best if you want to be a mainstream superstar. Grand Hustle is good as well but not on MMG or YMCMB level. The rest is average or worst.

Also good music is doin a good job developin cudi, sean and cyhi

 

[idoitforhiphop10]

Ur Comparing what Akon does with Lady Freakin Gaga to what Ross is doing with Meek Millz? It doesnt even compare in the least bit. YES ross is doing good with Wale and Meek Millz but he has not built them from the ground up each came to the table with atleast a small following.

Call Jay Z what u want but he took J Cole from Nothing. And i dont believe Hov signed J Cole as a "Hot For The Moment" Rapper. So yes J Cole grind was slow but i bet his career will be longer because of it. We are in a time where ppl want everything in an Instant but thats not how the real world works ppl work long and hard to Sustain a successful career why should Rap be any different?

Yeah cole's takin the old school approach with artist development. I say this all the time on here, all the great artist usually have bad starts, but great finishes. look at this list:

2pac

Jay Z

T.I.

Lupe Fiasco

all these guys bombed they first albums, but then went on to sell records later in their careers. I think cole is gonna follow suit with these guys.

 

[#1 pick]

Also good music is doin a good job developin cudi, sean and cyhi

True, Sean doing it big. They have a lot of talent as well.

 

[H-Rap 180]

Ross seems to be a business man over all. He is more like Def Jam in the 80's and is trying to build his artists to be as big or bigger than him. Lady Gaga is under Akon label, I haven't seen Gaga doing anything like Akon since she's been signed by his label. Is Teedra Moses spitting bars now? Even Wale isn't on that really hard rapper tip. In fact, even Meek isn't. He is versatile than that. I give credit to Ross where it's due. He is doing everything a great businessman should do so far. Giving all his artist shine. Improving their skills and packaging them for success. They have the talent, they just need to get to the next level. Internet talk comes and goes. I remember when Papoose was the biggest name on this forum outside of the main cats in the game like 50, Game, and others in the mid 2000's. He has dropped off the face of the planet it seems.

You have to ride the wave and jump on a good team. Jay-Z is like the Washington Wizards with Jordan. It has MJ but he's not good as an executive. But you respect him for his impact and imprint on hip hop as an artist. But is that a good team to develop on? No. Right now, MMG has the best development team for a rapper with skills over everyone. YM is the best if you want to be a mainstream superstar. Grand Hustle is good as well but not on MMG or YMCMB level. The rest is average or worst.

Quality post.

I like how you put those thoughts together. *Salutes*

 

[#1 pick]

Ur Comparing what Akon does with Lady Freakin Gaga to what Ross is doing with Meek Millz? It doesnt even compare in the least bit. YES ross is doing good with Wale and Meek Millz but he has not built them from the ground up each came to the table with atleast a small following.

Call Jay Z what u want but he took J Cole from Nothing. And i dont believe Hov signed J Cole as a "Hot For The Moment" Rapper. So yes J Cole grind was slow but i bet his career will be longer because of it. We are in a time where ppl want everything in an Instant but thats not how the real world works ppl work long and hard to Sustain a successful career why should Rap be any different?

Your reading too much into it. I was saying that Ross is developing artists like Akon was for his label. Have some common sense. Jay-Z was a good person to be connected too but he's not good for development. To be honest, he is still that "hot for the moment" rapper. He his yet to move from that arena, it just he has a much larger fanbase now but still no real development and is still likely to have very weak sales. We will see, it doesn't have to be instant, hell it's not with most artist except some like Waka and Soulja but at the least we need to see improvement. He seems like Wale and Asher Roth did before their first album. Extremely talented and inconsistent. A smart move is needed or he will end up more like Roth than Wale.

 

[StillDreaming]

Doubt it, although it should be it's wales 2nd album.

Of course you would, ill just let the music speak for itself.

 

[CJ]

Of course you would, ill just let the music speak for itself.

??????????

 

[StillDreaming]

Ambition will be better than Cole World based off Bad Girls Club? which featured J. Cole and was produced by J. Cole?

Cole World 9/27.

[video=youtube;WwIafCfhInM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwIafCfhInM[/video]

Why do you think that single was so bad though? I'm thinking because it was featuring you know who. I'm not really basing this off singles used to pander to a mainstream demographic, I'm talmbout the meat and potatoes of the album......I got a feeling wale bout to drop something really special. He certainly has the lyrical ability to drop a classic album.

 

[#1 pick]

Quality post.

I like how you put those thoughts together. *Salutes*

Thanks man.

Yeah cole's takin the old school approach with artist development. I say this all the time on here, all the great artist usually have bad starts, but great finishes. look at this list:
2pac
Jay Z
T.I.
Lupe Fiasco

all these guys bombed they first albums, but then went on to sell records later in their careers. I think cole is gonna follow suit with these guys.

2pac or T.I. didn't have fanfare and T.I. wasn't bombing. He was becoming a Southern power each year. Completely moved himself from comparable rappers at the time like Baby D into a regional legend to become a worldwide legend. 2pac didn't have the fanfare as Cole does for his raps as much as his acting but he wasn't in Cole's lane either.

Lupe made a hot album and never disappointed his fans at that time, that was a very odd mention.

The other rappers I will compare to him are rappers in the same lane in the same period of Hip Hop.
Charles Hamilton, Drake, Wale, B.o.B, and Asher Roth. All of them are very talented. Some failed, some switched their lanes, and some are still growing as well as improving.

It's funny what a lack of development and signing with the wrong group can kill a talented artist. Soulja was able to stay in the game for four more years thanks to signing with Colli Park. Who you sign with and how they develop matters or you can forever limit yourself if you pick wrongly.