Is There Scientific Proof God Exists? (Lazy readers do not enter)

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Conscious212;1114779 said:
God has been a tremendous consolation, although it was a lie.

One does not need to disprove God is false because he is already dead. You have to prove he exist because you believe he has dominion over this universe and possibly others. He does not exist because he is not there, and you cannot prove he is.

The very definition of the word you used; 'proof' or prove, means; 1. Demonstrate the truth or existence of (something) by evidence or argument. I cannot prove he 'does not exist' because that requires no proof.

You're wasting your words, his proof is things being alive.

To him the bible saying that trees and rivers exist then looking outside and seeing them there are proof whoever wrote it had to have divine knowledge.
 
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ThaChozenWun;1114746 said:
"There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch, or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee. Thou shalt be perfect with the LORD thy God. For these nations, which thou shalt possess, hearkened unto observers of times, and unto diviners: but as for thee, the LORD thy God hath not suffered thee so to do." (Deuteronomy 18:10-14)

"Ye shall not eat any thing with the blood: neither shall ye use enchantment, nor observe times . . . Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I am the LORD your God." (Lev. 19:26, 31) "And the soul that turneth after such as have familiar spirits, and after wizards, to go a whoring after them, I will even set my face against that soul, and will cut him off from among his people . . . A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them." (Lev. 20:6, 27)

"Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live." (Exo. 22:18)

Ephesians has some in it too.

LOL

What kind of "witch" are you thinking of? Like, Wizard of Oz witch? If so, you have a big problem in your head. Witches/wizards = evil magic, black magic, etc.
 
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oliverlang;1114766 said:
Job 39:9-12 (King James Version)

9Will the unicorn be willing to serve thee, or abide by thy crib?

10Canst thou bind the unicorn with his band in the furrow? or will he harrow the valleys after thee?

11Wilt thou trust him, because his strength is great? or wilt thou leave thy labour to him?

12Wilt thou believe him, that he will bring home thy seed, and gather it into thy barn?

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Psalm 29:6 (King James Version)

6He maketh them also to skip like a calf; Lebanon and Sirion like a young unicorn.

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Isaiah 34:7 (King James Version)

7And the unicorns shall come down with them, and the bullocks with the bulls; and their land shall be soaked with blood, and their dust made fat with fatness.

Okay, cool. So what's the problem here?
 
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Conscious212;1114779 said:
God has been a tremendous consolation, although it was a lie.

One does not need to disprove God is false because he is already dead. You have to prove he exist because you believe he has dominion over this universe and possibly others. He does not exist because he is not there, and you cannot prove he is.

The very definition of the word you used; 'proof' or prove, means; 1. Demonstrate the truth or existence of (something) by evidence or argument. I cannot prove he 'does not exist' because that requires no proof.

God is dead? Um, okay lol how so? See, you guys always ask the believer for proof then when given you guys say, "no that's not proof". I guess you want me to LITERALLY bring GOD to YOU, right? Like, knock on your door and say, "HERE'SSSS JOHNNY" LOL

The PROOF? The BIBLE! (now Chozen steps in to further mock and say, "see, I told you")
 
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ThaChozenWun;1114778 said:
Oliverlang stop it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You and I are foolish everyone knows those parts aren't meant to be taken literal!

How isn't a unicorn not meant to be taken literal? OH I KNOW, it was a horse with a party hat!
 
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VIBE86;1114824 said:
How isn't a unicorn not meant to be taken literal? OH I KNOW, it was a horse with a party hat!

Well its easy to say "Oh well we know that's false so lets go ahead and say that part isn't literal"

I swear if I was alive 1000 years ago I'd have a billion followers and make millions of preachers rich.
 
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ThaChozenWun;1114860 said:
Well its easy to say "Oh well we know that's false so lets go ahead and say that part isn't literal"

I swear if I was alive 1000 years ago I'd have a billion followers and make millions of preachers rich.

This is a site I go to when I'm having troubles with some scriptures, it's a really good reliable site that isn't BIAS!

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/aid/v2/n1/unicorns-in-bible
 
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VIBE86;1114818 said:
God is dead? Um, okay lol how so? See, you guys always ask the believer for proof then when given you guys say, "no that's not proof". I guess you want me to LITERALLY bring GOD to YOU, right? Like, knock on your door and say, "HERE'SSSS JOHNNY" LOL

The PROOF? The BIBLE! (now Chozen steps in to further mock and say, "see, I told you")

That would be great. Do you know how your bible was compiled? Do you know what the Council of Nicea was? Where the Roman emperor Constantine I declared Jesus the "Son of God", and he did so to increase the sphere of influence over the pagan empire; he personally changed a teaching of your holy scripture for his political gain, which I assume is a sin. He created and mandated the concept of the "Trinity", it never existed before. How can you support the truth of the Bible when it has been deliberately tampered with on numerous occasions?

"The First Council of Nicæa, the first ecumenical council held by the church, is best known for its formulation of the Nicene Creed, the earliest dogmatic statement of Christian orthodoxy. The council was convened in 325 by the Roman emperor Constantine I in an attempt to settle the controversy raised by Arianism over the nature of the Trinity. Nearly all those who attended came from the eastern Mediterranean region.

It was the decision of the council, formalized in the Nicene Creed, that God the Father and God the Son were consubstantial and coeternal and that the Arian belief in a Christ created by and thus inferior to the Father was heretical. Arius himself was excommunicated and banished. The council was also important for its disciplinary decisions concerning the status and jurisdiction of the clergy in the early church and for establishing the date on which Easter is celebrated."

source: http://mb-soft.com/believe/txc/nicaea.htm
 
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VIBE86;1114884 said:
This is a site I go to when I'm having troubles with some scriptures, it's a really good reliable site that isn't BIAS!

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/aid/v2/n1/unicorns-in-bible

Appreciate the link, but been using this site for a while.

It says "Oh well it could have been here but became extinct like the Dodo bird!" One problem, we have fossil evidence to support claims of extinct species. Not one single fossil record, bone record, or mummified record of unicorns.
 
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Conscious212;1114942 said:
That would be great. Do you know how your bible was compiled? Do you know what the Council of Nicea was? Where the Roman emperor Constantine I declared Jesus the "Son of God", and he did so to increase the sphere of influence over the pagan empire; he personally changed a teaching of your holy scripture for his political gain, which I assume is a sin. He created and mandated the concept of the "Trinity", it never existed before. How can you support the truth of the Bible when it has been deliberately tampered with on numerous occasions?

"The First Council of Nicæa, the first ecumenical council held by the church, is best known for its formulation of the Nicene Creed, the earliest dogmatic statement of Christian orthodoxy. The council was convened in 325 by the Roman emperor Constantine I in an attempt to settle the controversy raised by Arianism over the nature of the Trinity. Nearly all those who attended came from the eastern Mediterranean region.

It was the decision of the council, formalized in the Nicene Creed, that God the Father and God the Son were consubstantial and coeternal and that the Arian belief in a Christ created by and thus inferior to the Father was heretical. Arius himself was excommunicated and banished. The council was also important for its disciplinary decisions concerning the status and jurisdiction of the clergy in the early church and for establishing the date on which Easter is celebrated."

source: http://mb-soft.com/believe/txc/nicaea.htm

Been spit at me numerous times. Thing is, even the original language in what it was written in is still supportive of the bible. I'm actually trying to read the Hebrew version that has been translated ONCE into English. It has it's few different interpretations of words but for the most part follows the same lines.
 
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god is everywhere, god is inside all of us, and we witness god everysecond of everyminute of everyhour of everyday. The sooner we learn ta let go of our attachment to specific "religions" and learn to accept them all 4 what they where and what they became, the path to the truth will become clear.
 
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ThaChozenWun;1114778 said:
Oliverlang stop it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You and I are foolish everyone knows those parts aren't meant to be taken literal!

lol...i'm just wondering where all the fossils are at.
 
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VIBE86;1114818 said:
God is dead? Um, okay lol how so? See, you guys always ask the believer for proof then when given you guys say, "no that's not proof". I guess you want me to LITERALLY bring GOD to YOU, right? Like, knock on your door and say, "HERE'SSSS JOHNNY" LOL

The PROOF? The BIBLE! (now Chozen steps in to further mock and say, "see, I told you")

How is the bible proof?
 
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VIBE86;1116489 said:
The Bible is God's Word.

"In the beginning was Word" says the Gospel according to St. John, and "the Word was with God, and the Word was God". This statement echoes, almost exactly, a verse from the Rik Veda: "In the beginning was Brahman, with whom was the Word; and the Word was truly the supreme Brahman". The philosophy of the Word may be traced, in its various forms and modifications, down from the ancient Hindu scriptures through the teachings of Plato and the Stoics to Philo of Alexandria and the author of the Fourth Gospel. Perhaps an actual historical link can be proved to exist between all these succeeding schools of thought; perhaps it cannot. The question is not very important. Truth may be rediscovered, independently, in many different epochs and places. The power of the Word, for good or evil, has been recognized by mankind since the dawn of history. Primitive tribes enshrined it in their taboos and secret cults. Twentieth-century cultures have prostituted it to the uses of political and commercial advertisement.

~ The Yoga Aphorisms of Patanjali

The Word is not a bunch of letters that make a bunch of words in a bunch of books known as the bible.
 
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Let's assume the Bible really is God's word.

Then let's ask this: What if God is lying?

I know, I know. His word says that he doesn't lie. But what if he's lying about that?

Y'all just believe dumb shit without thinking.
 
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VIBE86;1116838 said:
LeBron.....

you beat me to it

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