Is Kobe Bryant Top 5 All Time? (List ur top 5)

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FlightKing;9317726 said:
It's a joke that niggas put Wilt in top 5 talk. He was taller than the white boys he played.

LeBron only started being the best after the NBA castrated defense after Detroit dominated the East. And the nigga still can't dribble a basketball like a pro player.

Kobe definitely top 5 - this shit is insane.

The NBA didn't change the rules because of Detroit
 
How is he top 5 when the individual accolades don't justify it. You're talking about Jordan, Russell, Lebron, Magic, Kareem, Bird,etc have multiple league and finals mvps along with the rings.

I have it as Jordan, Kareem, Russell, Magic and Lebron for now. I also have Duncan and Bird in front of him.
 
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Unless u like 60+ years old i dont see how anybody can talk wilt, kareem, bill Russell etc. Foh. Niggas cant even break down their games u basically gotta go off stats to show them love honestly. Not taking away from what they did but lets keep it a buck.

Out of cats i actually had the opportunity to watch kobe is easily top 5. Only issue i ever had with him is he allowed himself to be walking target unnecessarily on and off the court and somethings will stick forever. But on a pure basketball level hes in my top 5
 
He's in my top 5, but can't be mad at anybody excluding him from theirs. Once you get to a certain tier it's damn near a pick 'em.

So many variables when it comes to rating players. Stats, teammates, rings, def. 1st teams, MVP's, scoring records, quality of competition, era, rule changes, heart or lack thereof, skill set, mentality, passing, footwork, versatility, coaching, meeting/exceeding hype, overcoming trials and tribulations, influence on others, playoff/finals record, win percentage, injuries, front office decisions.

Being in that top 10 room is good enough, because alotta these niggas are interchangeable to a certain degree. I mean, in a draft, if you want Kareem but end up having to take Shaq, is anybody really that disappointed?

 
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FlightKing;9317726 said:
LeBron only started being the best after the NBA castrated defense after Detroit dominated the East. And the nigga still can't dribble a basketball like a pro player.

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Hilarious
 
Shizlansky;9317736 said:
FlightKing;9317726 said:
It's a joke that niggas put Wilt in top 5 talk. He was taller than the white boys he played.

LeBron only started being the best after the NBA castrated defense after Detroit dominated the East. And the nigga still can't dribble a basketball like a pro player.

Kobe definitely top 5 - this shit is insane.

The NBA didn't change the rules because of Detroit

Yeah they did. Defensive domination brought bad ratings.
 
This discussion is over underdogs win the debate... On First Take today, Max Kellerman asked Shaq "who's the best post-MJ including Hakeem and Shaq"

Shaq said Kobe is the 2nd greatest player to ever play in the NBA outside of MJ... That's TOP 5 validation from a Hall of Famer, trumping this poll in itself

Hakeem, Lebron, Bird, Barkley, Wade, Rondo, etc all the names y'all keep throwing to stop Kobe from being top 5, even HOF'er have said over and over again, Kobe is Top 5.. Kobe is in that room, deal with it
 
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joeyfkncrakk;9327627 said:
This discussion is over underdogs win the debate... On First Take today, Max Kellerman asked Shaq "who's the best post-MJ including Hakeem and Shaq"

Shaq said Kobe is the 2nd greatest player to ever play in the NBA outside of MJ... That's TOP 5 validation from a Hall of Famer, trumping this poll in itself

Hakeem, Lebron, Bird, Barkley, Wade, Rondo, etc all the names y'all keep throwing to stop Kobe from being top 5, even HOF'er have said over and over again, Kobe is Top 5.. Kobe is in that room, deal with it

como?
 
its....JOHN B;9327767 said:
joeyfkncrakk;9327627 said:
This discussion is over underdogs win the debate... On First Take today, Max Kellerman asked Shaq "who's the best post-MJ including Hakeem and Shaq"

Shaq said Kobe is the 2nd greatest player to ever play in the NBA outside of MJ... That's TOP 5 validation from a Hall of Famer, trumping this poll in itself

Hakeem, Lebron, Bird, Barkley, Wade, Rondo, etc all the names y'all keep throwing to stop Kobe from being top 5, even HOF'er have said over and over again, Kobe is Top 5.. Kobe is in that room, deal with it

como?

I was joking of course but that's what y'all doing to discredit Kobe
 
Can't take any nigga serious who got Lebron over Kobe. Shits like a nigga having 2 chainz over Pac, can't talk reason to a nigga like that.
 
joeyfkncrakk;9327627 said:
This discussion is over underdogs win the debate... On First Take today, Max Kellerman asked Shaq "who's the best post-MJ including Hakeem and Shaq"

Shaq said Kobe is the 2nd greatest player to ever play in the NBA outside of MJ... That's TOP 5 validation from a Hall of Famer, trumping this poll in itself

Hakeem, Lebron, Bird, Barkley, Wade, Rondo, etc all the names y'all keep throwing to stop Kobe from being top 5, even HOF'er have said over and over again, Kobe is Top 5.. Kobe is in that room, deal with it

Exactly, Shaq himself said Kobe is better than him and Lebron. I'm assuming alot of these niggas on here aint start watchin ball till 2008.
 
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Kobe can be the second greatest player since MJ

Don't mean he's still top 5

Duncan case can be made that he's the best since MJ.

50 wins every year since year 1. Never missed the playoffs or was even a low seed

Multiple MVPs

Multiple FMVPs
 
^^^Sams case can be made for Bron too, I don't get what's so hard for these nig nogs to understand it's many players with just as strong if not a stronger argument. That's why I can't stand Kobe-Tards they literally shit on every other great player to big him up.

Like this nigga Goldie, bruh Bron got as many MVP trophies as Kobe, Shaq, and Duncan COMBINED you know 3 other top 10 all time greats along with 3 rings to go along with it, how does he not have an argument for being better than Kobe?
 
dallas' 4 eva;9328005 said:
^^^Sams case can be made for Bron too, I don't get what's so hard for these nig nogs to understand it's many players with just as strong if not a stronger argument. That's why I can't stand Kobe-Tards they literally shit on every other great player to big him up.

Like this nigga Goldie, bruh Bron got as many MVP trophies as Kobe, Shaq, and Duncan COMBINED you know 3 other top 10 all time greats along with 3 rings to go along with it, how does he not have an argument for being better than Kobe?

Kobe got a few monster years on shitty squads though. The context of the year means a lot, and if the MVP is a popularity contest when someone like Curry wins it back to back, then the same can be said for LeBron winning it way too many times. All these guys who vote get into group think mode, and it's a wrap after that.
 
Who cares about MVPs? Nash has 2......... does that make him better than John Stockton? Can't talk ball with some of you niggas b lol
 
804;9328147 said:
dallas' 4 eva;9328005 said:
^^^Sams case can be made for Bron too, I don't get what's so hard for these nig nogs to understand it's many players with just as strong if not a stronger argument. That's why I can't stand Kobe-Tards they literally shit on every other great player to big him up.

Like this nigga Goldie, bruh Bron got as many MVP trophies as Kobe, Shaq, and Duncan COMBINED you know 3 other top 10 all time greats along with 3 rings to go along with it, how does he not have an argument for being better than Kobe?

Kobe got a few monster years on shitty squads though. The context of the year means a lot, and if the MVP is a popularity contest when someone like Curry wins it back to back, then the same can be said for LeBron winning it way too many times. All these guys who vote get into group think mode, and it's a wrap after that.

LeBron numbers in most years should have gotten him more MVPs

That year Rose won I think LBJ should have gotta that one.

He averaged more

Points

Assist

Rebounds

Steals

Blocks

Than Rose

Was also the 2nd seed in the East
 
Nah. Lebron earned every MVP he has.

His stats and impact those years were in-human. Even if there was group think going on, their group thoughts were correct.
 

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