Your NBA Top 5 All time by position

[Beta]

So y'all gonna let the thread be derailed?

 

[5 Grand]

I grew up in Newton, MA which is right outside of Boston.

I'm not sure about Red Auerbach but its a documented fact that when Bill Russell signed with the Celtics he tried to buy a house in the suburbs and the white folks in Massachusetts weren't having it. They called him nigger and ran him out of the suburbs. He got ALOT of heat and they made it very uncomfortable for him while he was in Boston. He was winning championships for the city but outside of the court they treated him like shit.

And to make matters worse, Bill Russell wasn't much of an activist. He wasn't outspoken or good with words, so when they show video tapes of him back in the 50s and 60s the reporters would ask him how he felt about the civil rights movement and all that was going on and he just giggled and smiled. He didn't really know how to handle himself in front of a camera like, say, Muhammad Ali or Jackie Robinson.

 

[its....JOHN B]

Never said he didn't deal with racism, just not from Red

 

[Mister B.]

The Kareem disrespect knows no bounds.

 

[Louis Devinear]

The Kareem disrespect knows no bounds.

The Jason Kidd disrespect also.

These niggas putting steph curry in top 5 pg of all time. When he been only doing his thing for like 3 years. Foh

I like my pg to have all around stats.

When steph curry take the bum ass nets to back to back finals then holla at me.

 

[R.D.]

PG

Magic

Isiah

Stockton

Gary Peyton

Jason Kidd

SG

MJ

Kobe

Oscar

Jerry West

Wade

SF

Lebron

Bird

Dr. J

Elgin Baylor

Rick Barry

PF

Duncan

Malone

Barkley

McCale

KG

C

Wilt

Kareem

Bill

Hakeem

Shaq

Not going talk about this

Ok cool

 

[KneeGro_DuperMan]

PG

Isiah

Magic

Big O

Jason Kidd

Cp3

SG

MJ

Wade/Kobe

Kobe/Wade

Curry

AI

SF

Bird

Bron

Julius

Elgin

Dominique

PF

KG

Dirk

Barkley

Malone

Webber

C

Kareem

Hakeem

Shaq

Duncan

Wilt

 

[aneed123]

Isaiah Thomas

Jordan

Bron

Barkley

Olajuwon

 

[So ILL]

This thread just made me mad at the thought of how the Magic let a hall of fame Center get away for nothing smh. Yeah, I'm still mad lol.

 

[usmarin3]

PG

Magic

Isiah

Stockton

Gary Peyton

Jason Kidd

SG

MJ

Kobe

Oscar

Jerry West

Wade

SF

Lebron

Bird

Dr. J

Elgin Baylor

Rick Barry

PF

Duncan

Malone

Barkley

McCale

KG

C

Wilt

Kareem

Bill

Hakeem

Shaq

Not going talk about this

Ok cool

Speak your mind man

 

[DaBull]

SMH at the Blatant Kareem Disrespect!

 

[Mister B.]

SMH at the Blatant Kareem Disrespect!

Yeah, I don't get that. How a mafucker win:

SIX MVPs (more than anyone in NBA history...even your god)

SIX titles (including one BEFORE he got to LA)

a 19-time ALL-star (that was never once voted in by the fans)

AND the #1 ALL-TIME scorer in NBA history

...and people say he's not even the best Center ever puzzles the fuck out of me. Look, fuck the Lakers as a franchise, staff, fanbase, and as a muthafuckin crew, but respect is DUE to this dude.

I like Wilt, but the argument that "Russell played in a watered-down era" applies to Wilt, too. They were only each other's competition, and Bill's Celtics busted that ass all the time.

Hakeem's cool, but his career doesn't even come close to the accomplishments Kareem made.

 

[PanchoYoSancho]

Hakeem's cool, but his career doesn't even come close to the accomplishments Kareem made.

Not talking career accomplishments. Im talking in their prime, who was the best. It's not fair to compare guys you watched play to ones you didnt. But if Im going to, Im giving the edge to Hakeem who was the dominate Center in the greatest Center era. Hakeem never had a roster around him like Kareem did in L.A. which was arguably the most talent on one roster ever. From the year Hakeem came in the league in 84, he was the better player til Kareem retired. Yet, Kareem won 3 rings and 1 Finals MVP during that time span. The Rockets upset the Lakers in 86 behind Hakeem averaging 31/11 compared to Kareem's 27 and 7 (Still impressive at 39 years old). Hakeem averaged more than 10 points better than the second leading scorer, Ralph Sampson.

Kareem also won a ring with an all star in Milwaukee. Hakeem on the other hand won a ring with role players and another ring with an all star. Him and Duncan in 2003 are the only players I can remember who lead their teams to a championship without another legit star around them. Hakeem never had a an all star point guard to get him the ball in his entire career. Kareem had the GOAT PG in his prime and arguably the other GOAT PG who was still an all-star in Milwaukee.

Per 36 minutes (Kareem played more minutes)

Hakeem: 21.9--11.2--2.5--1.8--3.1 Blks

Kareem: 24.1--10.9--3.5--1.0--2.6 Blks

Playoffs per 36 minutes (Hakeem played more minutes)

Hakeem: 23.5--10.2--2.9--1.5--3.0 Blks

Kareem: 23.4--10.1--3.1--1.0--2.4 Blks

Kareem had a higher player efficiency rating in the regular season. Hakeem had a better one in the playoffs. Add to this that Hakeem is arguably the greatest defensive Center ever, I give him the slight edge even tho Kareem had the greater career.

 

[DaBull]

comparing Hakeem to a 39 year old Kareem is crazy!!! Kareem was the most underrated defender at the position, he had multiple seasons over 4 blocks a game and while Hakeem was a better defender, Kareem was light years ahead of him offensively.

Kareem best 5 seasons ....aka Prime years

35ppg and 17 rebounds let that marinate!!! i would give you his blocks but they didnt even count blocks back then

35ppg and 17reb and 4 asts

32ppg and 16 reb and 3 asts

30ppg and 15 reb and 5 asts

24ppg and 13 reb with 5 asts and 4 blocks during one of those title years in LA

27ppg and 15reb and 5 asts

he was an offensive juggernant and the most complete offensive force for a while. he won without magic early in his career and ppl fail to mention that when he retired and Magic was without Kareem, magic never held the trophy again even with the rest of that "stacked" team still in tact

 

[Shizlansky]

Shaq was the best center. A 3rd year player in Shaq was killing every center including Dream. That wasn't even prime Shaq.

 

[PanchoYoSancho]

lol @ Kareem being "light years" ahead of Hakeem offensively. Kareem's numbers in Milwaukee were special no doubt, but he was playing 44 MPG to put up those numbers and the league was still evolving during that time. Kareem averaged 16.6 (not 17 rebounds) that season and was 3rd in rebounding. Let that marinate. The only player putting up rebounds like that in Hakeem's era was Rodman. In Kareem's early years him, Wilt, Dave Cowens, Nate Thurmond, Wes Unseld and Elvin Hayes were routinely averaging over 15 rebounds a game. In the 90's, Rodman was the only one doing that OR EVEN COMING CLOSE. Hakeem and Kevin Willis were the only players in the 90's not named Dennis Rodman to average at least 14 rebounds in a season, so dont act like Hakeem wasnt a monster on the boards. You expect me to believe guys who played in the 60s/early 70's were just that much better than guys who played in the 80's/90s? Nah B. They just played more minutes, so they scored more points and grabbed more boards.

The Lakers, like Kareem, got old. Magic only played two more years after Kareem retired until he got Aids. Him and Worthy were still in their primes, but their 3rd best player was Vlade Divac and they still went back to the Finals in 91 before losing to the GOAT.

Shaq was the best center. A 3rd year player in Shaq was killing every center including Dream. That wasn't even prime Shaq.

But Dream was killing him right back. Shaq admitted this many times.

 

[DOPEdweebz]

Magic, MJ, Bird, Duncan, Hakeem.

Ez.

 

[DOPEdweebz]

I can see the Kareem shit, but I seen Hakeem in his prime.

Hakeem in his prime was the most unstoppable player I seen since Jordan at that time.

 

[PanchoYoSancho]

I aint knockin Kareem. I can see why most consider him the GOAT, but I dont. That simple. I saw Hakeem in the 90's murder some of the greats.

Shaq's prime was definitely in L.A., but what's ironic is his regular season numbers in Orlando are identical to his numbers (actually slightly higher) than his numbers in L.A. Only his assists went up.

But playoff Laker Shaq was a whole nother monster. Especially when he got to the Finals.

2000 Finals 38.0/16.7/2.3/2.7 Blks

2001 Finals 33.0/15.8/4.8/3.4 Blks

2002 Finals 36.3/12.3/3.8/2.8 Blks

Damn

 

[Inglewood_B]

That nigga posted old Celtics "highlights" from the 60s

Lmao

Shit looked like old tapes from my 12-under league up at Jesse Owens park