Is Kobe Bryant Top 5 All Time? (List ur top 5)

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its....JOHN B;9299761 said:
Also proves they weren't shit without him

you getting away from the subject ...you trynna prove he was great...we dont argue that!!! I'm sayin he was not greater than Hakeem ,Kobe,Lebron etc do you really think he would win 11 rings in any other era ?? maybe 3 or 4 or 5 but not no 11and his fame is based on his rings mostly and to win 11 rings that right there tells you his team and system helped ALOT

just like Duncan would not have won 5 rings if he played for the Suns and if you put for exemple Barkley on the spurs Barkley would certainly have at least 2 rings...The rings are very important but its not the only way to see if a player is great because nobody puts Russell over jordan and he has alot more rings than Jordan ,feel me ?
 
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Ether44mag;9299790 said:
its....JOHN B;9299761 said:
Also proves they weren't shit without him

you getting away from the subject ...you trynna prove he was great...we dont argue that!!! I'm sayin he was not greater than Hakeem ,Kobe,Lebron etc do you really think he would win 11 rings in any other era ?? maybe 3 or 4 or 5 but not no 11and his fame is based on his rings mostly and to win 11 rings that right there tells you his team and system helped ALOT

just like Duncan would not have won 5 rings if he played for the Suns and if you put for exemple Barkley on the spurs Barkley would certainly have at least 2 rings

I mentioned he wouldn't win 11 in any other era but shit hes getting faulted for that when he should be credited for dominating the way he did, you can say "well this player would of dominated that era too" maybe but Russ is the one to have done it and that system worked because of him
 
its....JOHN B;9299827 said:
Ether44mag;9299790 said:
its....JOHN B;9299761 said:
Also proves they weren't shit without him

you getting away from the subject ...you trynna prove he was great...we dont argue that!!! I'm sayin he was not greater than Hakeem ,Kobe,Lebron etc do you really think he would win 11 rings in any other era ?? maybe 3 or 4 or 5 but not no 11and his fame is based on his rings mostly and to win 11 rings that right there tells you his team and system helped ALOT

just like Duncan would not have won 5 rings if he played for the Suns and if you put for exemple Barkley on the spurs Barkley would certainly have at least 2 rings

I mentioned he wouldn't win 11 in any other era but shit hes getting faulted for that when he should be credited for dominating the way he did, you can say "well this player would of dominated that era too" maybe but Russ is the one to have done it and that system worked because of him

how is he a better all around player than Hakeem tho? dont aswer with metaphores and poetry ...answer with facts...the only fact that puts Russell over anybody is rings other than that his stats dont prove he is better than guys like hakeem 13 rebounds in the 80's and 90's = 20 in the 60's
 
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He had a better offensive skillset than Russ, there were things KG could do that Duncan couldn't but Duncan won, then the hypotheticals come in "well if KG played for POP or if KG had Pierce and Allen longer" well we don't know that, what we do know is Russ and Duncan were two of the best players of their generation and have the rings to show for it
 
That Boston team wouldn't win a game in this era.
Ether44mag;9299790 said:
its....JOHN B;9299761 said:
Also proves they weren't shit without him

you getting away from the subject ...you trynna prove he was great...we dont argue that!!! I'm sayin he was not greater than Hakeem ,Kobe,Lebron etc do you really think he would win 11 rings in any other era ?? maybe 3 or 4 or 5 but not no 11and his fame is based on his rings mostly and to win 11 rings that right there tells you his team and system helped ALOT

just like Duncan would not have won 5 rings if he played for the Suns and if you put for exemple Barkley on the spurs Barkley would certainly have at least 2 rings...The rings are very important but its not the only way to see if a player is great because nobody puts Russell over jordan and he has alot more rings than Jordan ,feel me ?

 
Shizlansky;9299921 said:
That Boston team wouldn't win a game in this era.
Ether44mag;9299790 said:
its....JOHN B;9299761 said:
Also proves they weren't shit without him

you getting away from the subject ...you trynna prove he was great...we dont argue that!!! I'm sayin he was not greater than Hakeem ,Kobe,Lebron etc do you really think he would win 11 rings in any other era ?? maybe 3 or 4 or 5 but not no 11and his fame is based on his rings mostly and to win 11 rings that right there tells you his team and system helped ALOT

just like Duncan would not have won 5 rings if he played for the Suns and if you put for exemple Barkley on the spurs Barkley would certainly have at least 2 rings...The rings are very important but its not the only way to see if a player is great because nobody puts Russell over jordan and he has alot more rings than Jordan ,feel me ?

and you would of beat Cousy one on one we know
 
Ether44mag;9299790 said:
its....JOHN B;9299761 said:
Also proves they weren't shit without him

you getting away from the subject ...you trynna prove he was great...we dont argue that!!! I'm sayin he was not greater than Hakeem ,Kobe,Lebron etc do you really think he would win 11 rings in any other era ?? maybe 3 or 4 or 5 but not no 11and his fame is based on his rings mostly and to win 11 rings that right there tells you his team and system helped ALOT

just like Duncan would not have won 5 rings if he played for the Suns and if you put for exemple Barkley on the spurs Barkley would certainly have at least 2 rings...The rings are very important but its not the only way to see if a player is great because nobody puts Russell over jordan and he has alot more rings than Jordan ,feel me ?

You edited this post so I didn't see bolded, but don't tell me to answer with facts and then say some shit like this, Duncan made the Spurs what they are, its not a fact that you could plug Barkley in and get similar results, and no rings aren't everything like I said he wouldn't win 11 in every era but he does have more rings than he can fit on both hands
 
its....JOHN B;9299948 said:
Ether44mag;9299790 said:
its....JOHN B;9299761 said:
Also proves they weren't shit without him

you getting away from the subject ...you trynna prove he was great...we dont argue that!!! I'm sayin he was not greater than Hakeem ,Kobe,Lebron etc do you really think he would win 11 rings in any other era ?? maybe 3 or 4 or 5 but not no 11and his fame is based on his rings mostly and to win 11 rings that right there tells you his team and system helped ALOT

just like Duncan would not have won 5 rings if he played for the Suns and if you put for exemple Barkley on the spurs Barkley would certainly have at least 2 rings...The rings are very important but its not the only way to see if a player is great because nobody puts Russell over jordan and he has alot more rings than Jordan ,feel me ?

You edited this post so I didn't see bolded, but don't tell me to answer with facts and then say some shit like this, Duncan made the Spurs what they are, its not a fact that you could plug Barkley in and get similar results, and no rings aren't everything like I said he wouldn't win 11 in every era but he does have more rings than he can fit on both hands

Whatever i'm done arguing you believe what you want but rings is not everything when comparing players, to me stats and fg% is the most important thing who is better a player scoring 30 a game on 40% or the player scoring 25 on 48% ? this nigga Russell score 15 on 44% ...as a CENTER ! its not like he shot jumpers from 20 feet he's Rodman on steroids wich is great but not top 5 or top 10 worthy
 
its....JOHN B;9299827 said:
Ether44mag;9299790 said:
its....JOHN B;9299761 said:
Also proves they weren't shit without him

you getting away from the subject ...you trynna prove he was great...we dont argue that!!! I'm sayin he was not greater than Hakeem ,Kobe,Lebron etc do you really think he would win 11 rings in any other era ?? maybe 3 or 4 or 5 but not no 11and his fame is based on his rings mostly and to win 11 rings that right there tells you his team and system helped ALOT

just like Duncan would not have won 5 rings if he played for the Suns and if you put for exemple Barkley on the spurs Barkley would certainly have at least 2 rings

I mentioned he wouldn't win 11 in any other era but shit hes getting faulted for that when he should be credited for dominating the way he did, you can say "well this player would of dominated that era too" maybe but Russ is the one to have done it and that system worked because of him

His TEAM Dominated the era ...WILT was the player who Dominated that era dont get it twisted now...
 
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Ether44mag;9299987 said:
its....JOHN B;9299948 said:
Ether44mag;9299790 said:
its....JOHN B;9299761 said:
Also proves they weren't shit without him

you getting away from the subject ...you trynna prove he was great...we dont argue that!!! I'm sayin he was not greater than Hakeem ,Kobe,Lebron etc do you really think he would win 11 rings in any other era ?? maybe 3 or 4 or 5 but not no 11and his fame is based on his rings mostly and to win 11 rings that right there tells you his team and system helped ALOT

just like Duncan would not have won 5 rings if he played for the Suns and if you put for exemple Barkley on the spurs Barkley would certainly have at least 2 rings...The rings are very important but its not the only way to see if a player is great because nobody puts Russell over jordan and he has alot more rings than Jordan ,feel me ?

You edited this post so I didn't see bolded, but don't tell me to answer with facts and then say some shit like this, Duncan made the Spurs what they are, its not a fact that you could plug Barkley in and get similar results, and no rings aren't everything like I said he wouldn't win 11 in every era but he does have more rings than he can fit on both hands

Whatever i'm done arguing you believe what you want but rings is not everything when comparing players, to me stats and fg% is the most important thing who is better a player scoring 30 a game on 40% or the player scoring 25 on 48% ? this nigga Russell score 15 on 44% ...as a CENTER ! its not like he shot jumpers from 20 feet he's Rodman on steroids wich is great but not top 5 or top 10 worthy

Keep it that way
 
joeyfkncrakk;9302946 said:
hakeem ain't top 5 over Kobe... Neither is Bird, Wilt, or Russell... Now fuq off

Kobe does nothing better than any of those guys minus scoring in regards to Russ, not to mention all men are more accomplished individually.
 
smittysmith;9303263 said:
joeyfkncrakk;9302946 said:
hakeem ain't top 5 over Kobe... Neither is Bird, Wilt, or Russell... Now fuq off

Kobe does nothing better than any of those guys minus scoring in regards to Russ, not to mention all men are more accomplished individually.

Pure hate lol google them niggaz accomplishments and you'd be surprised how Kobe matches up
 
ericb4prez;9305165 said:
smittysmith;9303263 said:
joeyfkncrakk;9302946 said:
hakeem ain't top 5 over Kobe... Neither is Bird, Wilt, or Russell... Now fuq off

Kobe does nothing better than any of those guys minus scoring in regards to Russ, not to mention all men are more accomplished individually.

Pure hate lol google them niggaz accomplishments and you'd be surprised how Kobe matches up

this thread proves all the hate is real against the Bean... More accomplished my ass smh
 
joeyfkncrakk;9306364 said:
http://hoopshype.com/2016/08/03/the-top-25-players-in-lakers-history/

Check it for yourself, even Hoopshype has Kobe as the 2nd greatest Laker of All time...

I got Magic as the greatest Laker as well
 
joeyfkncrakk;9306364 said:
http://hoopshype.com/2016/08/03/the-top-25-players-in-lakers-history/

Check it for yourself, even Hoopshype has Kobe as the 2nd greatest Laker of All time...

I have that same exact top 5.
 
The "Greatest Laker" conversation is different than the "Greatest Player" Conversation ...

In the former discussion, there are a lot of contextual factors being considered outside of the players ability and overall accomplishments.

This list has Byron Scott as a "better Laker" than Wilt...

Does that mean that Byron Scott is a "better player" than Wilt Chamberlain? ...

Kobe is arguably the Greatest Laker for a lot of reasons, but on my all time list I wouldn't put him above Magic, Kareem, or even Shaq

 
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