Iraqi troops suffer mass slaughter one mile from Baghdad: the general ISIS Chat thread

[janklow]

Also, I've criticized Russia and Syria's govt for being too harsh on civilians at times.

you are describing the murder of tens of THOUSANDS of people as "being too harsh on civilians at times."

new rule: when you complain about an American airstrike that kills a civilian, you may only say "the US is being too harsh on civilians at times."

 

[kingblaze84]

Also, I've criticized Russia and Syria's govt for being too harsh on civilians at times.

you are describing the murder of tens of THOUSANDS of people as "being too harsh on civilians at times."

new rule: when you complain about an American airstrike that kills a civilian, you may only say "the US is being too harsh on civilians at times."

Tens of thousands? That's bad if true, but it still pales to the massive number of civilians the USA has killed in Afghanistan, Iraq, and other places since 2001. It's all about the context, America has done the killing of civilians in much massive amounts compared to other nations I can think of.

With 21,000 pound bombs being used in Afghanistan now, I can only imagine how many more civilians will be killed by America's crooked government. You already know I can put up links that show America may have killed millions of civilians directly or indirectly these past few years since early 2003. Anyway, keep on bashing Assad, that's fine, I don't think Trump is gonna take him out either way. I'm sure that disappoints you.

 

[kingblaze84]

ISIS supposedly had an extremely large hideout wiped out by the largest non-nuclear bomb used in warfare history this past Thursday. The bomb being 21,000 pounds is amazing in itself (it had to be pushed out of a plane) but on the other hand, it shows America is losing ground against jihadis in Afghanistan because after 16 plus years, it needs the biggest non-nuclear bomb in history to check ISIS. I have a feeling things won't change after this bombing, as deadly as it was, doesn't really defeat the ideology of ISIS, and I'm starting to think ISIS has way more followers then the media is leading us to believe.

An Afghan villager near the bomb site says ISIS fighters still have control of the area of the blast site, which is interesting

http://mtonews.com/day-one-coachell...s-breasts-fully-exposed-new-signature-outfit/

 

[janklow]

Tens of thousands? That's bad if true, but it still pales to the massive number of civilians the USA has killed in Afghanistan, Iraq, and other places since 2001.

first thing: "if true?" why is it that if international organizations vouch for this number based on the evidence, you question it... but you will take ANY wild estimate of people to be laid at the US's feet?

second: the operative word is "civilians."

third: and actually, here's your reminder that this is being done by Assad to citizens of his own country.

You already know I can put up links that show America may have killed millions of civilians directly or indirectly these past few years since early 2003.

why are you going to put up links if you won't even acknowledge the tens of thousands being killed by Assad? because if we're going to play THAT game, all your links will be answered with "if true."

Anyway, keep on bashing Assa-

yes, i will keep on bashing Assad, because you're not adult enough to do so.

"I've criticized Russia and Syria's govt for being too harsh on civilians at times"

"for being too harsh on civilians at times"

"for being too harsh on civilians at times"

 

[kingblaze84]

Tens of thousands? That's bad if true, but it still pales to the massive number of civilians the USA has killed in Afghanistan, Iraq, and other places since 2001.

first thing: "if true?" why is it that if international organizations vouch for this number based on the evidence, you question it... but you will take ANY wild estimate of people to be laid at the US's feet?

second: the operative word is "civilians."

third: and actually, here's your reminder that this is being done by Assad to citizens of his own country.

You already know I can put up links that show America may have killed millions of civilians directly or indirectly these past few years since early 2003.

why are you going to put up links if you won't even acknowledge the tens of thousands being killed by Assad? because if we're going to play THAT game, all your links will be answered with "if true."

Anyway, keep on bashing Assa-

yes, i will keep on bashing Assad, because you're not adult enough to do so.

"I've criticized Russia and Syria's govt for being too harsh on civilians at times"

"for being too harsh on civilians at times"

"for being too harsh on civilians at times"

Terrible post from you. Anyway, I have already criticized Assad for being harsh numbskull, I just don't see how Assad's harshness even comes remotely close to the extreme horrors and chaos America has caused in the region. Multiple sources say the American invasion has led to at least a million plus civilian deaths in Iraq alone. Assad hasn't done anything close to that, so forgive me if Assad's crimes don't shake me compared to bloodthirsty, cowboy American ones.

But I have said several times that I would find it amusing if Assad gets taken down from power. The biggest rebel groups in Syria, ISIS and Al-Qaeda, along with their supporters, would have a grand old time getting revenge on the women and religious minorities who overwhelmingly support Assad according to several polls. The so called moderate rebels are weak and few in number, so if you want Assad's regime taken down, cheerlead that. I would simply laugh at the massive chaos that would come as a result. You know, like the disasters of Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Somalia, and other nations America plays GI Joe in.

 

[kingblaze84]

 

[janklow]

Terrible post from you. Anyway, I have already criticized Assad for being harsh numbskull, I just don't see how Assad's harshness even comes remotely close to the extreme horrors and chaos America has caused in the region.

because you INSIST on being willfully obtuse about Assad. case in point, in this sentence, you:

-describe Assad as "harsh"

-describe the US as causing "extreme horrors and chaos"

...which tells us that you don't think Assad assigning tens of thousands of Syrian citizens to torture and murder in regime facilities as "extreme horrors." which in turn tells us that you would rather rant about the US than spend one second of your life acknowledging the crimes of Assad. again, his crimes have literally been posted about AT LENGTH in this thread, only for you to pretend to be unaware of them. disgusting.

Multiple sources say the American invasion has led to at least a million plus civilian deaths in Iraq alone.

multiple sources detail Assad's crimes, yet you dispute them or claim to be unaware of them. yet you cite sources that want to hold the US accountable for deaths caused by others in the wake of their conflict while ignoring sources that talk about crimes committed DIRECTLY by Assad's regime.

But I have said several times that I would find it amusing if Assad gets taken down from power.

this is just another version of you being ride or die for Assad's innocence.

I would simply laugh at the massive chaos that would come as a result.

massive chaos that would occur in Syria as a DIRECT result of Assad's response to non-violent protests. but you won't acknowledge how much of a massive hypocrite you are when it comes to Assad, because that would require you to man up to a level you either cannot or will not do.

 

[janklow]

like i just said, this tracks "estimated civilian deaths since the invasion." not civilians killed by the US, civilian deaths since the invasion. as always, you give a pass to anyone else as long as you can blame the US in some way.

meanwhile, where's the graphics about civilian deaths CAUSED BY ASSAD'S REGIME. oh right, you mysteriously don't have time to read the thread you're posting in.

tell you what, from now on, when you post that stuff, i'll just say i'm unaware of it. there's no point in even acknowledging your argument when you won't acknowledge anyone else's.

 

[kingblaze84]

Terrible post from you. Anyway, I have already criticized Assad for being harsh numbskull, I just don't see how Assad's harshness even comes remotely close to the extreme horrors and chaos America has caused in the region.

because you INSIST on being willfully obtuse about Assad. case in point, in this sentence, you:

-describe Assad as "harsh"

-describe the US as causing "extreme horrors and chaos"

...which tells us that you don't think Assad assigning tens of thousands of Syrian citizens to torture and murder in regime facilities as "extreme horrors." which in turn tells us that you would rather rant about the US than spend one second of your life acknowledging the crimes of Assad. again, his crimes have literally been posted about AT LENGTH in this thread, only for you to pretend to be unaware of them. disgusting.

Multiple sources say the American invasion has led to at least a million plus civilian deaths in Iraq alone.

multiple sources detail Assad's crimes, yet you dispute them or claim to be unaware of them. yet you cite sources that want to hold the US accountable for deaths caused by others in the wake of their conflict while ignoring sources that talk about crimes committed DIRECTLY by Assad's regime.

But I have said several times that I would find it amusing if Assad gets taken down from power.

this is just another version of you being ride or die for Assad's innocence.

I would simply laugh at the massive chaos that would come as a result.

massive chaos that would occur in Syria as a DIRECT result of Assad's response to non-violent protests. but you won't acknowledge how much of a massive hypocrite you are when it comes to Assad, because that would require you to man up to a level you either cannot or will not do.

I already know Assad is harsh to his enemies, including some of his political enemies. I won't excuse that kind of behavior, as someone who always believes in freedom of expression and thought. Could Assad have handled the demonstrations against his government better? Sure. It doesn't mean it's a good idea to take Assad down from power. If he truly is that bad, then hey, people can take him out and we'll see what happens afterwards. For those who support ISIS and/or Al-Qaeda, they would certainly love the idea of Assad being taken down. So sure, he's done bad things from research I've done, but America should still mind its own fucking business in Syria. America's government is the LAST government that should be talking about war crimes.

Assad's regime isn't my cup of tea exactly, but the only serious alternatives to Assad in Syria is ISIS, Al-Qaeda and its allies. The moderate rebels are weak and can't defend themselves militarily without America or some other nation babysitting them, so no one really can take them seriously. So if you want ISIS or Al-Qaeda to be the leaders of Syria, then fine.

 

[kingblaze84]

like i just said, this tracks "estimated civilian deaths since the invasion." not civilians killed by the US, civilian deaths since the invasion. as always, you give a pass to anyone else as long as you can blame the US in some way.

meanwhile, where's the graphics about civilian deaths CAUSED BY ASSAD'S REGIME. oh right, you mysteriously don't have time to read the thread you're posting in.

tell you what, from now on, when you post that stuff, i'll just say i'm unaware of it. there's no point in even acknowledging your argument when you won't acknowledge anyone else's.

America is far more responsible for the flames of chaos in the region then Assad is. America is the one that supports apartheid in Palestinian territories, not Assad. America is the nation that invaded Iraq and created events that have led up to the deaths of a million plus in Iraq alone, most innocent civilians. So as I have said before, Assad's crimes are quite small compared to the extreme and catastrophic disasters of American foreign policy.

But no one is stopping you from criticizing Assad, go on ahead and tell us just how bad Assad really is. The words will ring extremely hollow though, as EVERYONE HERE knows godamn well America is the KING of war crimes the past decade or so. Still though, tell us how bad Assad is.

 

[Will Munny]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ic-state-position-kill-3-militants/100876844/

I really hope this is a true story.

 

[kingblaze84]

That's crazy, damn. Wouldn't be surprised if it's true, wild boars can get really big and they got sharp ass teeth

 

[Will Munny]

I feel like if hogs were rally that dangerous tho rednecks would be dropping like flies in southern US lololololol

 

[kingblaze84]

I feel like if hogs were rally that dangerous tho rednecks would be dropping like flies in southern US lololololol

Maybe the boars in Syria are more dangerous lol, all the bombings and shootouts there are probably driving the boars there crazy.

 

[kingblaze84]

A few weeks ago, the world was stunned when the USA dropped the biggest non-nuclear bomb in warfare history in Afghanistan, and while many saw the desperation behind the attack, it now seems pretty clear America's enemies in Afghanistan are now more active then ever.

ISIS killed two American troops last week, and just today they blew up a NATO convoy near the American embassy, killing at least 8 and injuring over 28 others, including 3 American troops who were badly burned according to NPR News. On top of this, reports this week show the Taliban controls about 40% of the nation now. With ISIS gaining more power in Afghanistan and the Taliban constantly kicking the asses of the pathetic Afghan army, I don't see what good the "mother of all bombs" did. Russia is so desperate to defeat ISIS in Afghanistan that they are funding the Taliban according to several American and foreign agencies. I also read an article in which Trump is shocked at how large the Taliban and ISIS are getting in Afghanistan. Let's see how many more billions America spends on war now, as healthcare costs get more and more expensive.....
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...rid_collaborative_1_na&utm_term=.a4217c9ef504
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/05/03/attack-us-convoy/101233514/

 

[janklow]

I already know Assad is harsh to his enemies, including some of his political enemies.

kills tens of thousands of Syrians = "is harsh to his enemies"

kills protesters at funerals for other protesters = "could have handled it better"

then drops "if he is that bad."

you know who else was indisputably bad? people like Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot? was it as simple as "eh, their people can take them out!" you tell me.

So if you want ISIS or Al-Qaeda to be the leaders of Syria, then fine.

false choice, since you know i have said i don't want that. it's not a binary "choose ISIS or Assad for what you want" choice.

then again, you willfully refuse to read posts in the thread (or at least deny reading them), so maybe you're just ignoring my position on the subject?

 

[janklow]

America is far more responsible for the flames of chaos in the region then Assad is. America is the one that supports apartheid in Palestinian territories, not Assad.

this is actually a good example of my point. you claim Palestine is the reason for chaos in the Middle East, which is a cop-out answer, but okay, let's proceed. who's most responsible for this?

A. Palestianians

B. Israelis

C. America

...and you're choosing C over B. nice.

America is the nation that invaded Iraq and created events that have led up to the deaths of a million plus in Iraq alone, most innocent civilians.

"tell you what, from now on, when you post that stuff, i'll just say i'm unaware of it. there's no point in even acknowledging your argument when you won't acknowledge anyone else's."

...especially since i directly address this in the recent post.

also, again, bitching about "results of foreign policy" while excusing murders ordered by Assad's regime. please stop pretending you're not giving Assad a past.

 

[kingblaze84]

I already know Assad is harsh to his enemies, including some of his political enemies.

kills tens of thousands of Syrians = "is harsh to his enemies"

kills protesters at funerals for other protesters = "could have handled it better"

then drops "if he is that bad."

you know who else was indisputably bad? people like Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot? was it as simple as "eh, their people can take them out!" you tell me.

So if you want ISIS or Al-Qaeda to be the leaders of Syria, then fine.

false choice, since you know i have said i don't want that. it's not a binary "choose ISIS or Assad for what you want" choice.

then again, you willfully refuse to read posts in the thread (or at least deny reading them), so maybe you're just ignoring my position on the subject?

Listen, if Assad gets taken down, fine, I'm just giving the heads up that it's only going to make a bad situation in that region worse. Keep on cheerleading for Assad to be taken down, no problem. I would be very amused seeing the chaos that would result afterwards, as it would be something I predicted. Just curious, why do you think Trump and most of the world are reluctant to do anything about Assad?

 

[kingblaze84]

America is far more responsible for the flames of chaos in the region then Assad is. America is the one that supports apartheid in Palestinian territories, not Assad.

this is actually a good example of my point. you claim Palestine is the reason for chaos in the Middle East, which is a cop-out answer, but okay, let's proceed. who's most responsible for this?

A. Palestianians

B. Israelis

C. America

...and you're choosing C over B. nice.

America is the nation that invaded Iraq and created events that have led up to the deaths of a million plus in Iraq alone, most innocent civilians.

"tell you what, from now on, when you post that stuff, i'll just say i'm unaware of it. there's no point in even acknowledging your argument when you won't acknowledge anyone else's."

...especially since i directly address this in the recent post.

also, again, bitching about "results of foreign policy" while excusing murders ordered by Assad's regime. please stop pretending you're not giving Assad a past.

America actively supports the apartheid in Palestinian territories by giving Israel more aid and support then any other nation out there. America deserves a massive amount of blame for the daily atrocities Israel brings upon the Palestinians because America gives Israel very advanced planes and weapons that everyone knows is used to oppress the Palestinians. You already know Israel is called the little Satan and America big Satan in the region. Ask yourself why that is.

And I don't give Assad a pass, I already said he deserves criticism for how he's handled things. Often times though, it seems you give America a pass for the many, many atrocities it commits in the region and support for apartheid in Palestinian territories. Word to Nikky Haley, the bitch who makes America look bad at the United Nations.

 

[janklow]

Keep on cheerleading for Assad to be taken down, no problem.

the difference between you and i is that i'm cheerleading the idea that Syrians not be oppressed and murdered by their government, and you don't give a fuck what happens to them as long as the right guys do it to them.

America actively supports the apartheid in Palestinian territories by giving Israel more aid and support then any other nation out there.

again, you'd rather blame the country that supports something than the country that's ACTUALLY DOING what you object to.

And I don't give Assad a pass, I already said he deserves criticism for how he's handled things.

no, this is basically a lie. going to repeat myself:

"kills tens of thousands of Syrians = "is harsh to his enemies"

kills protesters at funerals for other protesters = "could have handled it better"

then drops "if he is that bad.""

Often times though, it seems you give America a pass for the many, many atrocities it commits in the region and support for apartheid in Palestinian territories.

a. no, i don't. i might dispute some of your outlandish claims, but i don't give a pass to actual misdeeds. meanwhile, you're posting in this thread pretending you've never seen articles POSTED IN THIS THREAD about Assad's misdeeds.