Iraqi troops suffer mass slaughter one mile from Baghdad: the general ISIS Chat thread

[CracceR]

let them have it, because if we go back we should own it permenantly.

i say fuck iraq

That's not an option we would run the risk of wars spreading all over the mid-east eventually threatening american interest in the region. In addition these people are religiously motivated to destroy or convert america so leaving them alone would be like letting a wound fester.

dude u r hilarious, u support american invasions, wars etc. in the middle east

but u mad about european colonization of the americas and africa

 

[zombie]

let them have it, because if we go back we should own it permenantly.

i say fuck iraq

That's not an option we would run the risk of wars spreading all over the mid-east eventually threatening american interest in the region. In addition these people are religiously motivated to destroy or convert america so leaving them alone would be like letting a wound fester.

dude u r hilarious, u support american invasions, wars etc. in the middle east

but u mad about european colonization of the americas and africa

I support american invasions in the middle east because those people have a stated goal of taking over the world

however the nations that were colonized by europe did not have the goal of taking over the fucking planet and posed no real threat to europe.

stay in donkey dummy you don't have the education to talk to me about any historical or currently pertinent issues

 

[CracceR]

let them have it, because if we go back we should own it permenantly.

i say fuck iraq

That's not an option we would run the risk of wars spreading all over the mid-east eventually threatening american interest in the region. In addition these people are religiously motivated to destroy or convert america so leaving them alone would be like letting a wound fester.

dude u r hilarious, u support american invasions, wars etc. in the middle east

but u mad about european colonization of the americas and africa

I support american invasions in the middle east because those people have a stated goal of taking over the world

however the nations that were colonized by europe did not have the goal of taking over the fucking planet and posed no real threat to europe.

stay in donkey dummy you don't have the education to talk to me about any historical or currently pertinent issues

ur moms a donkey

these wars are for oil, money, territories etc..

and these old wars were for ressources, territories etc..

same thing basically u r blinded

 

[zombie]

let them have it, because if we go back we should own it permenantly.

i say fuck iraq

That's not an option we would run the risk of wars spreading all over the mid-east eventually threatening american interest in the region. In addition these people are religiously motivated to destroy or convert america so leaving them alone would be like letting a wound fester.

dude u r hilarious, u support american invasions, wars etc. in the middle east

but u mad about european colonization of the americas and africa

I support american invasions in the middle east because those people have a stated goal of taking over the world

however the nations that were colonized by europe did not have the goal of taking over the fucking planet and posed no real threat to europe.

stay in donkey dummy you don't have the education to talk to me about any historical or currently pertinent issues

ur moms a donkey

these wars are for oil, money, territories etc..

and these old wars were for ressources, territories etc..

same thing basically u r blinded

Actually, no they are not if america wanted territories in iraq we would have fucking stayed and iraq would not be in the situation it's in now. the resources of iraq, oil is sold on the open market.

when european colonized a place they stayed there and sucked the resources out for themselves the only real resource iraq has is oil and america does not need to buy oil from iraq the war for oil myth is a lie that the liberal media has soul you idiots

 

[kingblaze84]

@kingblaze84‌

we still have allies around the world because they know we won't abandon them, but if we show that we can drop israel it means we can drop anybody. We used to have close ties to iran but not any more that bridge has been burnt a long time ago.

israel has to be an apartheid state for it to exist and i have no issue with that, they cannot give arabs equal citizenship if they did in a generation it won't be israel anymore, it would no longer be a jewish state which would defeat the purpose of there being an israel in the first place. south africa was a totally different situation because religion was not at the core of the problem. You should know how islam works by now the arabs would slaughter/convert the jews if israel did away with apartheid there is no mandela in this situation.

I don't care how much people hate america or israel, america is going to get hate no matter what because we are the powerful ones and have to make the choices that other nations don't have to, because every time there is some problem in the world every one looks to us. israel is hated because it exist and does what it needs to to keep existing. I am not a christian fundamentalist but like it or not until the middle east changes we are stuck with israel and your cowardly liberal nonsense won't change that.

If we allow iran to take the lead in this isis situation we risk making iran more powerful and iran is a nation that is hostile to us and our allies also it could mean spreading war and sunni-shia fighting which would risk oil production and fuck with the world wide economy. People are going against isis??? who iran is not doing much they fucking what to black mail the world for their support against isis, iran cannot be trusted. turkey is not doing much and they are the number one nation that should be fighting isis. but they won't because right now their is political struggles between islamist and secularist in turkey.

SMH at your views on Israel, they have to be an apartheid state? What ever happened to democracy and equal rights? The Palestinians don't have a Mandela but Mahmoud Abbas, one of the leaders of the Palestinians, has advocated a peaceful way to reach peace. Israel has ignored that and continues to steal the land/water of Palestinians and butcher them like cows on a farm, in front of the whole world. America can reduce the hate it gets worldwide if it STOPS THIS SUPPORT, but you refuse to listen to the Arab League and international community. Your Benjamin Netanyahu attitude, shared by the idiots of American Congress (who have a 12% approval rating), is one of many reasons America gets the hate it sadly deserves.

You don't trust Iran, but you trust Saudi Arabia? LOL are you high? I said it once and I'll say it AGAIN, SAUDIA ARABIA IS THE HOME OF MANY AL-QAEDA FINANCIERS and they ALSO are helping to to fund ISIS. The princes and emirs doing so are often part of the Saudi GOVT, why do you think the 9/11 report was BLACKED OUT in so many paragraphs when it comes to the Saudis? THINK man THINK. So from an American perspective at least, we might as well let Iran fight ISIS and if the Saudis are serious about being part of this coalition, let them fight as well. It would prove or show at least, that they are serious about "the threat" of ISIS. And Iran is hostile to American interests there because America is causing chaos and destruction all over that region. When that changes, our relations with Iran may change. China gets along great with Iran, it's time America do the same. Iran can be very useful for America.

 

[kingblaze84]

And we can't remove EVERY threat from the Middle East, impossible as long as America maintains a bloodthirsty, belligerent foreign policy and supports terrorism via the support of Israel. As long as these constants remain, America will NEVER run out of devoted enemies in the region and against our interests (oil companies and embassies worldwide)

The Middle East has also faced total war before, I guess you forgot about the Crusades (oh and by the way, the Muslims won that one lol)

NIgga, the crusades were not total wars once again you show that you don't know what the fuck you are talking about but you think you do and you speak this ignorance with such conviction and actually the christians won some of those wars.

your anti-americanism garbage has rotted your brain, if you don't know what total war is look it up and it's not 1077 . An american launched total war on the mid-east would crush these people into the dust for generations there would not be much men alive still willing to fight. first of all OUR war with them would force many of the nations in western europe to clamp down or expel their muslim populations. Because of our position in the world it would cause world wide change in almost every nation on earth.

The Crusades were not a total war? SMH......I will pretend you didn't say that. You obviously forgot the Crusades lasted 200 years and a huge amount of people died. And the Christians lost overall BADLY in the end, Saladin kicked the asses of Christian armies back and forth like Mike Tyson against a crippled old man. The Middle East, birthplace of Christianity and Judaism, is ironically Muslim now. The total war strategy failed and backfired badly.

Regarding your idea of total war, you think forcing Muslims from Western Europe would help the situation? LOL come on man do you seriously believe the shit you say? That's even more propaganda gold for ISIS and it would make them feel even more justified killing off the Christians, as they are doing now anyway.

 

[kingblaze84]

let them have it, because if we go back we should own it permenantly.

i say fuck iraq

That's not an option we would run the risk of wars spreading all over the mid-east eventually threatening american interest in the region. In addition these people are religiously motivated to destroy or convert america so leaving them alone would be like letting a wound fester.

dude u r hilarious, u support american invasions, wars etc. in the middle east

but u mad about european colonization of the americas and africa

His hypocrisy is fascinating, especially considering ISIS hasn't attacked America once, but America has bombed ISIS over 300 times now. He doesn't even realize how dumb he sounds to the rest of now, but I find it hilarious as well

 

[zombie]

let them have it, because if we go back we should own it permenantly.

i say fuck iraq

That's not an option we would run the risk of wars spreading all over the mid-east eventually threatening american interest in the region. In addition these people are religiously motivated to destroy or convert america so leaving them alone would be like letting a wound fester.

dude u r hilarious, u support american invasions, wars etc. in the middle east

but u mad about european colonization of the americas and africa

His hypocrisy is fascinating, especially considering ISIS hasn't attacked America once, but America has bombed ISIS over 300 times now. He doesn't even realize how dumb he sounds to the rest of now, but I find it hilarious as well

do you even know what the world hypocrisy means european colonization is nothing like the american involvement in the mid-east and you know it but to spite me you have chosen to agree with this cracker. isis attacked the iraqi government which was a government aligned with us therefore they did attack us.

 

[zombie]

And we can't remove EVERY threat from the Middle East, impossible as long as America maintains a bloodthirsty, belligerent foreign policy and supports terrorism via the support of Israel. As long as these constants remain, America will NEVER run out of devoted enemies in the region and against our interests (oil companies and embassies worldwide)

The Middle East has also faced total war before, I guess you forgot about the Crusades (oh and by the way, the Muslims won that one lol)

NIgga, the crusades were not total wars once again you show that you don't know what the fuck you are talking about but you think you do and you speak this ignorance with such conviction and actually the christians won some of those wars.

your anti-americanism garbage has rotted your brain, if you don't know what total war is look it up and it's not 1077 . An american launched total war on the mid-east would crush these people into the dust for generations there would not be much men alive still willing to fight. first of all OUR war with them would force many of the nations in western europe to clamp down or expel their muslim populations. Because of our position in the world it would cause world wide change in almost every nation on earth.

The Crusades were not a total war? SMH......I will pretend you didn't say that. You obviously forgot the Crusades lasted 200 years and a huge amount of people died. And the Christians lost overall BADLY in the end, Saladin kicked the asses of Christian armies back and forth like Mike Tyson against a crippled old man. The Middle East, birthplace of Christianity and Judaism, is ironically Muslim now. The total war strategy failed and backfired badly.

Regarding your idea of total war, you think forcing Muslims from Western Europe would help the situation? LOL come on man do you seriously believe the shit you say? That's even more propaganda gold for ISIS and it would make them feel even more justified killing off the Christians, as they are doing now anyway.

You don't know what total war means it has nothing to do with how long a war lasts it refers to the total mobalization of a nation for war which means all production is put into the war effort the number of dead does not decide if a war can be categorized as total or not. You failed history class the crusades were a series of wars not a total war did every man or nation in christian europe fight in the crusades??? was there a complete focus by every christian state on fighting the crusades ?? no therefore the crusades were not a total war.

what i tried to tell you was that an american total war in the muslim world would put pressure on the states in europe to actually do something about their muslim problem. isis is going to kill christians no matter what, stop letting isis dictate the argument and set policy under this weak ass president we are reacting to them when they should be reacting to us.

 

[zombie]

@kingblaze84‌

we still have allies around the world because they know we won't abandon them, but if we show that we can drop israel it means we can drop anybody. We used to have close ties to iran but not any more that bridge has been burnt a long time ago.

israel has to be an apartheid state for it to exist and i have no issue with that, they cannot give arabs equal citizenship if they did in a generation it won't be israel anymore, it would no longer be a jewish state which would defeat the purpose of there being an israel in the first place. south africa was a totally different situation because religion was not at the core of the problem. You should know how islam works by now the arabs would slaughter/convert the jews if israel did away with apartheid there is no mandela in this situation.

I don't care how much people hate america or israel, america is going to get hate no matter what because we are the powerful ones and have to make the choices that other nations don't have to, because every time there is some problem in the world every one looks to us. israel is hated because it exist and does what it needs to to keep existing. I am not a christian fundamentalist but like it or not until the middle east changes we are stuck with israel and your cowardly liberal nonsense won't change that.

If we allow iran to take the lead in this isis situation we risk making iran more powerful and iran is a nation that is hostile to us and our allies also it could mean spreading war and sunni-shia fighting which would risk oil production and fuck with the world wide economy. People are going against isis??? who iran is not doing much they fucking what to black mail the world for their support against isis, iran cannot be trusted. turkey is not doing much and they are the number one nation that should be fighting isis. but they won't because right now their is political struggles between islamist and secularist in turkey.

SMH at your views on Israel, they have to be an apartheid state? What ever happened to democracy and equal rights? The Palestinians don't have a Mandela but Mahmoud Abbas, one of the leaders of the Palestinians, has advocated a peaceful way to reach peace. Israel has ignored that and continues to steal the land/water of Palestinians and butcher them like cows on a farm, in front of the whole world. America can reduce the hate it gets worldwide if it STOPS THIS SUPPORT, but you refuse to listen to the Arab League and international community. Your Benjamin Netanyahu attitude, shared by the idiots of American Congress (who have a 12% approval rating), is one of many reasons America gets the hate it sadly deserves.

You don't trust Iran, but you trust Saudi Arabia? LOL are you high? I said it once and I'll say it AGAIN, SAUDIA ARABIA IS THE HOME OF MANY AL-QAEDA FINANCIERS and they ALSO are helping to to fund ISIS. The princes and emirs doing so are often part of the Saudi GOVT, why do you think the 9/11 report was BLACKED OUT in so many paragraphs when it comes to the Saudis? THINK man THINK. So from an American perspective at least, we might as well let Iran fight ISIS and if the Saudis are serious about being part of this coalition, let them fight as well. It would prove or show at least, that they are serious about "the threat" of ISIS. And Iran is hostile to American interests there because America is causing chaos and destruction all over that region. When that changes, our relations with Iran may change. China gets along great with Iran, it's time America do the same. Iran can be very useful for America.

There is no equal rights under islam answer this question what do you think is going to happen to the jews if israel is no longer an apartheid state???? mahmoud abbas is willing to partner with hamas, hamas has as part of it's consistution the destruction of israel.

if it were up to me israel would stop all the settlements i don't care how much people hate america haters are going to hate and at this point they won't stop so what's the point in begging and doing what they want?? there is none. I don't trust the saudis or iran but saudi arabia we at least have relations with and it's not their boldly stated goal to destroy america and israel. WE CANNOT allow the destruction of israel for the reasons i gave you already unless you can give me a proper rebuttal to those reasons what's the point?? you keep saying the say shit and give no possible solutions to the problems that will arise for your run way and hope it all works out plan

any saudi that funds terrorism should be killed it's that simple.

 

[kingblaze84]

@kingblaze84‌

we still have allies around the world because they know we won't abandon them, but if we show that we can drop israel it means we can drop anybody. We used to have close ties to iran but not any more that bridge has been burnt a long time ago.

israel has to be an apartheid state for it to exist and i have no issue with that, they cannot give arabs equal citizenship if they did in a generation it won't be israel anymore, it would no longer be a jewish state which would defeat the purpose of there being an israel in the first place. south africa was a totally different situation because religion was not at the core of the problem. You should know how islam works by now the arabs would slaughter/convert the jews if israel did away with apartheid there is no mandela in this situation.

I don't care how much people hate america or israel, america is going to get hate no matter what because we are the powerful ones and have to make the choices that other nations don't have to, because every time there is some problem in the world every one looks to us. israel is hated because it exist and does what it needs to to keep existing. I am not a christian fundamentalist but like it or not until the middle east changes we are stuck with israel and your cowardly liberal nonsense won't change that.

If we allow iran to take the lead in this isis situation we risk making iran more powerful and iran is a nation that is hostile to us and our allies also it could mean spreading war and sunni-shia fighting which would risk oil production and fuck with the world wide economy. People are going against isis??? who iran is not doing much they fucking what to black mail the world for their support against isis, iran cannot be trusted. turkey is not doing much and they are the number one nation that should be fighting isis. but they won't because right now their is political struggles between islamist and secularist in turkey.

SMH at your views on Israel, they have to be an apartheid state? What ever happened to democracy and equal rights? The Palestinians don't have a Mandela but Mahmoud Abbas, one of the leaders of the Palestinians, has advocated a peaceful way to reach peace. Israel has ignored that and continues to steal the land/water of Palestinians and butcher them like cows on a farm, in front of the whole world. America can reduce the hate it gets worldwide if it STOPS THIS SUPPORT, but you refuse to listen to the Arab League and international community. Your Benjamin Netanyahu attitude, shared by the idiots of American Congress (who have a 12% approval rating), is one of many reasons America gets the hate it sadly deserves.

You don't trust Iran, but you trust Saudi Arabia? LOL are you high? I said it once and I'll say it AGAIN, SAUDIA ARABIA IS THE HOME OF MANY AL-QAEDA FINANCIERS and they ALSO are helping to to fund ISIS. The princes and emirs doing so are often part of the Saudi GOVT, why do you think the 9/11 report was BLACKED OUT in so many paragraphs when it comes to the Saudis? THINK man THINK. So from an American perspective at least, we might as well let Iran fight ISIS and if the Saudis are serious about being part of this coalition, let them fight as well. It would prove or show at least, that they are serious about "the threat" of ISIS. And Iran is hostile to American interests there because America is causing chaos and destruction all over that region. When that changes, our relations with Iran may change. China gets along great with Iran, it's time America do the same. Iran can be very useful for America.

There is no equal rights under islam answer this question what do you think is going to happen to the jews if israel is no longer an apartheid state???? mahmoud abbas is willing to partner with hamas, hamas has as part of it's consistution the destruction of israel.

if it were up to me israel would stop all the settlements i don't care how much people hate america haters are going to hate and at this point they won't stop so what's the point in begging and doing what they want?? there is none. I don't trust the saudis or iran but saudi arabia we at least have relations with and it's not their boldly stated goal to destroy america and israel. WE CANNOT allow the destruction of israel for the reasons i gave you already unless you can give me a proper rebuttal to those reasons what's the point?? you keep saying the say shit and give no possible solutions to the problems that will arise for your run way and hope it all works out plan

any saudi that funds terrorism should be killed it's that simple.

I'm glad we've made progress with you by you admitting that Israel should stop the settlements. With that being said, if Israel is that scared of Palestinians one day out breeding the Israelis, then MAYBE Israel should have thought about that before setting up their homeland in the middle of the Arab world. They should have tried to settle their people somewhere in Europe or a more isolated place in the world. Spare me the speech about their ancient homeland, apartheid is not an acceptable thing in today's modern world. I didn't say America can get rid of ALL its haters by the Israeli-Palestinian conflict being solved, but it would get rid of probably most of them. Less cowboy invasions and securing our border would also help solve the terror problem.

Your fears of Israel using nukes to take out all of its enemies in a ruthless manner is even more reason to isolate and cut off all aid to Israel, and maybe take out Israeli leadership if necessary. Isolating Israel enough would solve your fears of this, I can tell your history knowledge isn't great, remember when apartheid South Africa made vague threats of using its nukes if too many African govts and people gave them problems? America put so much economic pressure on that govt that it eventually disbanded because it wasn't worth the cost to business anymore, and apartheid SA even dismantled its nuclear weapons. SEE how worldwide isolation can work? It doesn't have to be all about bombs and bullets. If Israel is isolated enough, the govt there as it exists would collapse faster then people can imagine, America is really its only friend in the world right now. The only one that matters at least.

Regarding the Saudis, you are willing to overlook things because of their oil and economy. That's fine, but why the big exception with Iran? Iran has its own intentions in the region but Iran has shown several times lately it is willing to improve relations with America, and America must make every effort to do the same. Iran is actively taking on ISIS, with boots on the ground, while Saudi Arabian princes and emirs give ISIS millions a year. Iran hates Israel true, but so what, so does most of the world lol. Israel is no friend to America, I'd rather choose sides with Iran then Israel. And if Israel wants to act a fool with nuclear weapons, AGAIN, more reason to isolate and take out Israeli leadership if one is desperate to protect the oil in the region.

 

[kingblaze84]

The Crusades weren't total wars compared to WW2 but the wars were massive in scope, I'll get more in detail on this later but in the end, America has zero moral authority to wage any total war in the Middle East, too many would be united against us (just like what's happening now); the war would last way too long and Americans would never have the stomach for it

 

[zombie]

The Crusades weren't total wars compared to WW2 but the wars were massive in scope, I'll get more in detail on this later but in the end, America has zero moral authority to wage any total war in the Middle East, too many would be united against us (just like what's happening now); the war would last way too long and Americans would never have the stomach for it

A war having massive death counts does not make it a total war a total war in the mid-east would last a year at most the united states of america has resources of many sorts up the ass, technically we could crush the entire middle east in a heart beat it's just not in our interest to do so right now. These radical muslims don't know what they are asking for they keep pushing AMERICA and they are going to get it, six arab nation could not even beat israel back in the 1960's they don't stand a chance in hell against us now.

It's only because this generation of american people are so weak that this bullshit goes on. Moral authority is a joke once war starts morals get thrown out the fucking window and people do what they feel they need to win most nations that have fought wars and won give no fucks about moral authority.

 

[zombie]

@kingblaze84

Iran wants the total destruction of israel and america therefore they cannot be trusted all the saudis want is to stay in power and keep influence in the region that's fine with me i have not read anything that would lead me to believe that the saudis want to wipe us off the map. Iran is playing a game it offers help with the isis problem but at the cost of us easing back on letting develop nuclear weapons.

israel has all right to use it's nukes or any other weapon it has to protect itself, but america can prevent what would be a horror in so many ways by supporting israel now so that they won't feel pushed to the limit. trying to use the south african situation is a horrible comparison because south africa had choices that israel does not have israel has to be that way it is or face extinction.

when south africa integrated the white people there stayed on top for the most part. that would not happen in israel because culturally speaking muslims have to rule supreme in muslim lands and they consider israel to be muslim land. You don't understand the religious mind these people on both sides of the israel-palestine conflict are never going to stop unless supreme force is used. you have not answered my question so i will ask again what will happen to the jews if israel is no longer an apartheid state???

 

[janklow]

If America IS SERIOUS about degrading and destroying ISIS, it would also turn its guns and bombs on Saudi Arabia, home of most of the 9/11 hijackers and Al-Qaeda financiers.

alright, so if Saddam had, hypothetically, financed or housed terrorists, it would be legit for the US to have removed him?

or, maybe to put this another way, the US should take out SA's government and not worry about a possible destabilized mess to follow?

because i am detecting some inconsistent concepts here...

So America abandoning Israel as it turns into a fascist state would not affect us in the negative, in fact the Middle East would love America for it.

why do you think the US is OMG THE MOST HATED but could do something like this and turn all that around?

The Crusades were not a total war? SMH......I will pretend you didn't say that. You obviously forgot the Crusades lasted 200 years and a huge amount of people died. And the Christians lost overall BADLY in the end, Saladin kicked the asses of Christian armies back and forth like Mike Tyson against a crippled old man. The Middle East, birthplace of Christianity and Judaism, is ironically Muslim now. The total war strategy failed and backfired badly.

this is a drastically oversimplified version of the Crusades, starting with "the Europeans obviously did SOMETHING right to have all that stuff for Saladin to take" and "you know, some of those Crusades sort of didn't involve the Middle East?"

 

[kingblaze84]

If America IS SERIOUS about degrading and destroying ISIS, it would also turn its guns and bombs on Saudi Arabia, home of most of the 9/11 hijackers and Al-Qaeda financiers.

alright, so if Saddam had, hypothetically, financed or housed terrorists, it would be legit for the US to have removed him?

or, maybe to put this another way, the US should take out SA's government and not worry about a possible destabilized mess to follow?

because i am detecting some inconsistent concepts here...

So America abandoning Israel as it turns into a fascist state would not affect us in the negative, in fact the Middle East would love America for it.

why do you think the US is OMG THE MOST HATED but could do something like this and turn all that around?

The Crusades were not a total war? SMH......I will pretend you didn't say that. You obviously forgot the Crusades lasted 200 years and a huge amount of people died. And the Christians lost overall BADLY in the end, Saladin kicked the asses of Christian armies back and forth like Mike Tyson against a crippled old man. The Middle East, birthplace of Christianity and Judaism, is ironically Muslim now. The total war strategy failed and backfired badly.

this is a drastically oversimplified version of the Crusades, starting with "the Europeans obviously did SOMETHING right to have all that stuff for Saladin to take" and "you know, some of those Crusades sort of didn't involve the Middle East?"

Regarding Saudi Arabia and the Middle East in general, my attitude is that America should generally butt out of the problems of the Middle East, at least for awhile. This is my general stance. With that being said, I'm simply telling those who support American war in Iraq that they need to understand if one TRULY wants to get rid of ISIS, war in Iraq and Syria won't solve anything, because Saudi Arabians with connections to the govt are pouring millions and weapons/ammo to ISIS AND Al-Qaeda. Taking on Saudi Arabia and ISIS isn't realistic obviously, so I'm stating there is not an American military solution to this problem, only political in the end. It's a Sunni vs Shiite war that America has no business being involved in (for the most part, we agree ISIS is doing some horrible things there). I have no problem with America providing humanitarian aid though.

As far as America's reputation in the Middle East, I admit the Israeli issues would not solve all of the problems America has in the region. But it would get rid of most of the problems the region has with us because as the king of Jordan said and as Osama Bin Laden said himself, the American ties to Israel brings negativity because Israel is blatant with its apartheid and America gives money and aid to Israel. CIA officials and American generals said the same thing publicly, American ties to the apartheid state of Israel makes America look evil. I know America isn't at heart an evil nation (some say it is, I won't go that far) but American foreign policy is SEEN as evil in the region and that's bad.

On the Crusades, yes I know Christians did kick a lot of ass in the beginning but out of the 200 year conflict, it's fair to say Christians lost the most in the region overall. And what do you mean some of the Crusades didn't involve the Middle East, do you mean Muslims were the aggressors several times? If so yes I agree.

 

[kingblaze84]

@kingblaze84

Iran wants the total destruction of israel and america therefore they cannot be trusted all the saudis want is to stay in power and keep influence in the region that's fine with me i have not read anything that would lead me to believe that the saudis want to wipe us off the map. Iran is playing a game it offers help with the isis problem but at the cost of us easing back on letting develop nuclear weapons.

israel has all right to use it's nukes or any other weapon it has to protect itself, but america can prevent what would be a horror in so many ways by supporting israel now so that they won't feel pushed to the limit. trying to use the south african situation is a horrible comparison because south africa had choices that israel does not have israel has to be that way it is or face extinction.

when south africa integrated the white people there stayed on top for the most part. that would not happen in israel because culturally speaking muslims have to rule supreme in muslim lands and they consider israel to be muslim land. You don't understand the religious mind these people on both sides of the israel-palestine conflict are never going to stop unless supreme force is used. you have not answered my question so i will ask again what will happen to the jews if israel is no longer an apartheid state???

If the Jews of Israel no longer have an apartheid state, they will simply have to do what ALL HUMANS have to do, ADAPT. They may not like how Palestinians and Arabs vote (haha), but Israel AGAIN should have thought about that before settling in the Middle East, land of them being outnumbered 1000-1. That's not my fucking problem if Israelis don't like how Palestinians would vote in their land, they would just have to learn how to survive, as the White people of South Africa are surviving in that land. White people in South Africa still have the most money and best land, and the Israelis could learn after them. Plus Jews lived for thousands of years alongside Arabs and while Europe was tormenting them, Jews had solid relations in many parts of the Arab world. If Jews can survive in Iran, then they can survive a non-apartheid state in Israel.

Apartheid is going nowhere for Israelis, unless Israelis like having rockets fired at them and little kids throwing rocks at them all the time. Doesn't seem like a pleasant life to me.

 

[zombie]

@kingblaze84

Iran wants the total destruction of israel and america therefore they cannot be trusted all the saudis want is to stay in power and keep influence in the region that's fine with me i have not read anything that would lead me to believe that the saudis want to wipe us off the map. Iran is playing a game it offers help with the isis problem but at the cost of us easing back on letting develop nuclear weapons.

israel has all right to use it's nukes or any other weapon it has to protect itself, but america can prevent what would be a horror in so many ways by supporting israel now so that they won't feel pushed to the limit. trying to use the south african situation is a horrible comparison because south africa had choices that israel does not have israel has to be that way it is or face extinction.

when south africa integrated the white people there stayed on top for the most part. that would not happen in israel because culturally speaking muslims have to rule supreme in muslim lands and they consider israel to be muslim land. You don't understand the religious mind these people on both sides of the israel-palestine conflict are never going to stop unless supreme force is used. you have not answered my question so i will ask again what will happen to the jews if israel is no longer an apartheid state???

If the Jews of Israel no longer have an apartheid state, they will simply have to do what ALL HUMANS have to do, ADAPT. They may not like how Palestinians and Arabs vote (haha), but Israel AGAIN should have thought about that before settling in the Middle East, land of them being outnumbered 1000-1. That's not my fucking problem if Israelis don't like how Palestinians would vote in their land, they would just have to learn how to survive, as the White people of South Africa are surviving in that land. White people in South Africa still have the most money and best land, and the Israelis could learn after them. Plus Jews lived for thousands of years alongside Arabs and while Europe was tormenting them, Jews had solid relations in many parts of the Arab world. If Jews can survive in Iran, then they can survive a non-apartheid state in Israel.

Apartheid is going nowhere for Israelis, unless Israelis like having rockets fired at them and little kids throwing rocks at them all the time. Doesn't seem like a pleasant life to me.

The bold is the most funniest shit you have ever said LOL their is no adaption living under islam especially when islam teaches that jews are pigs. WE ARE not in the world of 700 years ago the jews of today are not going to accept living under the submission of islam especially sunni islam and paying jizah.

So your answer to my question is we should just let the jews be killed, you have no solution . south africa is not israel the situation and cultures are vastly different. The jews will be slaughtered if what you want happens therefore israel would be in the right to use any means to defend itself. it is no longer palestinian land they lost the wars and don't have the power to take it back it's israel now. The palestinians and the arabs are going to have to learn to except that the sooner they do the closer we will be to peace.

israelis don't have a pleasant life but at least they have a life and the state of war is actually not that bad for israel because it give them an excuse to take palestinian land, you don't really know shit about islam they cannot accept peace with israel.

 

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let them have it, because if we go back we should own it permenantly.

i say fuck iraq

That's not an option we would run the risk of wars spreading all over the mid-east eventually threatening american interest in the region. In addition these people are religiously motivated to destroy or convert america so leaving them alone would be like letting a wound fester.

dude u r hilarious, u support american invasions, wars etc. in the middle east

but u mad about european colonization of the americas and africa

I support american invasions in the middle east because those people have a stated goal of taking over the world

however the nations that were colonized by europe did not have the goal of taking over the fucking planet and posed no real threat to europe.

stay in donkey dummy you don't have the education to talk to me about any historical or currently pertinent issues

ur moms a donkey

these wars are for oil, money, territories etc..

and these old wars were for ressources, territories etc..

same thing basically u r blinded

Actually, no they are not if america wanted territories in iraq we would have fucking stayed and iraq would not be in the situation it's in now. the resources of iraq, oil is sold on the open market.

when european colonized a place they stayed there and sucked the resources out for themselves the only real resource iraq has is oil and america does not need to buy oil from iraq the war for oil myth is a lie that the liberal media has soul you idiots

these are u.s. installed goverments, puppets and u.s. trained military in the middle east

of course its not exactly the same as european colonization but pretty similar

and iont really care about any media liberal or not u jamaican republican bish

 

[zombie]

let them have it, because if we go back we should own it permenantly.

i say fuck iraq

That's not an option we would run the risk of wars spreading all over the mid-east eventually threatening american interest in the region. In addition these people are religiously motivated to destroy or convert america so leaving them alone would be like letting a wound fester.

dude u r hilarious, u support american invasions, wars etc. in the middle east

but u mad about european colonization of the americas and africa

I support american invasions in the middle east because those people have a stated goal of taking over the world

however the nations that were colonized by europe did not have the goal of taking over the fucking planet and posed no real threat to europe.

stay in donkey dummy you don't have the education to talk to me about any historical or currently pertinent issues

ur moms a donkey

these wars are for oil, money, territories etc..

and these old wars were for ressources, territories etc..

same thing basically u r blinded

Actually, no they are not if america wanted territories in iraq we would have fucking stayed and iraq would not be in the situation it's in now. the resources of iraq, oil is sold on the open market.

when european colonized a place they stayed there and sucked the resources out for themselves the only real resource iraq has is oil and america does not need to buy oil from iraq the war for oil myth is a lie that the liberal media has soul you idiots

these are u.s. installed goverments, puppets and u.s. trained military in the middle east

of course its not exactly the same as european colonization but pretty similar

and iont really care about any media liberal or not u jamaican republican bish

NAh, it's nothing alike the purpose of colonization was for each colony to feed the mother nation with resources the united states of america for the most part does not operate like that because today we have a free market system and there is open competition in these market for there resources and access to there consumer markets. Do you care to list these puppet governments??? because iraq kicked us out the u.k is responsible for the existence of

saudi arabia, jordan and lebanon all three governments do whatever the fuck they want so does syria and iran

we are responsible for saddam, the corruption of iran, and to a lesser degree egypt. most of the nation in the middle east chose there own path or were the creation of european powers from the last century. the populace of these nations hate us because we won't let tiny little israel be destroyed and it's people forced into submission to islam.

i am an independent