Insecure (Season 2) HBO.

[Mastery]

So I see folks trying to justify Issa cheating...

 

[atribecalledgabi]

So I see folks trying to justify Issa cheating...

@ em and quote the posts.

Kthnx.

 

[_Goldie_]

So I see folks trying to justify Issa cheating...

I swear to God I was laughin like Eartha in that gif when I was reading their posts :joy:

 

[LcnsdbyROYALTY]

So I see folks trying to justify Issa cheating...

@ em and quote the posts.

Kthnx.

Gabi, this woulda hit harder if the bitch in the gif was a sista lol.

Only slightly though

 

[atribecalledgabi]

Very Smart Brothas article

Hmmm.....just watch the feelings fly.

The writer can get the D and that's about it (this is me being nice and not exhibiting feels), but the comment section is pretty interesting. As usual it's divisive, the women are saying outlandish bullshit, niggas are responding with logic (from what I've seen). Typical day on Black Internet...

Someone called them Ovarian Americans... :joy:

I gotta use that shyt!!!

Issa was wrong

But can we all agree that Lawrence contributed to the breakdown of the relationship

Meh...unknowingly.

Remember Issa wasn't communicating the issue she was having wit the relationship to Lawrence. She went to everyone else but the person she's in the relationship wit. So in his eyes, everything was all good. And when he tried to get her to talk about what was going on, she went mute.

Yea she didn't help the situation at all

But nobody is gonna be cool with their mate bumming around the crib all day, going from job to job while he or she is out trying to keep the bills up to date

And I picked up her body language around him first episode she wasn't happy

I gotta rewatch, but I think he also forgot her bday

Plus I remember Issa telling Molly he was slacking in the bedroom, they weren't going out a lot

Again Issa was wrong for what she did....But they deserve each other

B-day I give you...everything else is on her.

The one of the main things I took from their situation, is that it starts with communication first & foremost.

All that assuming the other person will eventually read your mind, hopefully figures out why you're unhappy does nothing.

That's the burden black women bear tho. Cuz I was on the "issa ain't shit" wave before Daniel for not communicating effectively...but y'all gotta realize she was carrying the load of the relationship financially and emotionally.

Lawrence was probly feeling emasculated he couldn't even contribute to bills and shit like that, let alone take his girl out for dinner regularly and do nice things for her... and a lil depressed cuz he couldn't get his app off the ground....so how do you, as the support system for this black man, broach the subject of "I need you to do more" without coming off as the nagging angry black woman stereotype on one end, but also knowing that by doing so, you're more than likely just gonna push him deeper into his funk by pointing out where he's fucking up? Cuz if you do that and push him away, that sacrifice you made to hold him down goes away with nothing to show for it. No thanks, no severance package, no card, no pat on the back...I see why she bit her tongue for so long even if to her detriment.

At the start of the series they were both checked out emotionally. Carrying the relationship while watching your man bum it and sit in his feelings for however long takes a toll on you....and so does trying to do something that just won't work and you can't catch no breaks while you see your woman struggle and bust ass for both of you and you can't help.

exactly

no one is trying to give issa a pass or make out Lawrence to be a bad guy

but I can empathize with her

she was in a tough spot and she obviously loved him

That's exactly what yall trying to do and the shit is hilariously sad. If she was feeling that worn down she could've simply broke up with homie. There's no such thing as a perfect relationship , we're always gonna be annoyed by shit our s/o does, there's no excuse to cheat.

Let that nigga L had cheated first (yea I call him L now) and we (niggas) supported/empathized with the shit by saying " he was obviously so distraught and hurt by Issa for not supporting his dreams and talking down to him all the time, I could empathize with him , it hurt to watch that's the everyday struggle of the black male " yall wouldn't let that shit fly for a sec lmaooo

Chile plz. Like niggas wouldn't have criticized if she left him while he was down. Issa was foul for cheating. No denying that. But we also can't ignore the mindstate they both were in before Lawrence got his shit together.

 

[_Goldie_]

Very Smart Brothas article

Hmmm.....just watch the feelings fly.

The writer can get the D and that's about it (this is me being nice and not exhibiting feels), but the comment section is pretty interesting. As usual it's divisive, the women are saying outlandish bullshit, niggas are responding with logic (from what I've seen). Typical day on Black Internet...

Someone called them Ovarian Americans... :joy:

I gotta use that shyt!!!

Issa was wrong

But can we all agree that Lawrence contributed to the breakdown of the relationship

Meh...unknowingly.

Remember Issa wasn't communicating the issue she was having wit the relationship to Lawrence. She went to everyone else but the person she's in the relationship wit. So in his eyes, everything was all good. And when he tried to get her to talk about what was going on, she went mute.

Yea she didn't help the situation at all

But nobody is gonna be cool with their mate bumming around the crib all day, going from job to job while he or she is out trying to keep the bills up to date

And I picked up her body language around him first episode she wasn't happy

I gotta rewatch, but I think he also forgot her bday

Plus I remember Issa telling Molly he was slacking in the bedroom, they weren't going out a lot

Again Issa was wrong for what she did....But they deserve each other

B-day I give you...everything else is on her.

The one of the main things I took from their situation, is that it starts with communication first & foremost.

All that assuming the other person will eventually read your mind, hopefully figures out why you're unhappy does nothing.

That's the burden black women bear tho. Cuz I was on the "issa ain't shit" wave before Daniel for not communicating effectively...but y'all gotta realize she was carrying the load of the relationship financially and emotionally.

Lawrence was probly feeling emasculated he couldn't even contribute to bills and shit like that, let alone take his girl out for dinner regularly and do nice things for her... and a lil depressed cuz he couldn't get his app off the ground....so how do you, as the support system for this black man, broach the subject of "I need you to do more" without coming off as the nagging angry black woman stereotype on one end, but also knowing that by doing so, you're more than likely just gonna push him deeper into his funk by pointing out where he's fucking up? Cuz if you do that and push him away, that sacrifice you made to hold him down goes away with nothing to show for it. No thanks, no severance package, no card, no pat on the back...I see why she bit her tongue for so long even if to her detriment.

At the start of the series they were both checked out emotionally. Carrying the relationship while watching your man bum it and sit in his feelings for however long takes a toll on you....and so does trying to do something that just won't work and you can't catch no breaks while you see your woman struggle and bust ass for both of you and you can't help.

exactly

no one is trying to give issa a pass or make out Lawrence to be a bad guy

but I can empathize with her

she was in a tough spot and she obviously loved him

That's exactly what yall trying to do and the shit is hilariously sad. If she was feeling that worn down she could've simply broke up with homie. There's no such thing as a perfect relationship , we're always gonna be annoyed by shit our s/o does, there's no excuse to cheat.

Let that nigga L had cheated first (yea I call him L now) and we (niggas) supported/empathized with the shit by saying " he was obviously so distraught and hurt by Issa for not supporting his dreams and talking down to him all the time, I could empathize with him , it hurt to watch that's the everyday struggle of the black male " yall wouldn't let that shit fly for a sec lmaooo

Chile plz. Like niggas wouldn't have criticized if she left him while he was down. Issa was foul for cheating. No denying that. But we also can't ignore the mindstate they both were in before Lawrence got his shit together.

Why do we have to understand the mindstate? So if a nigga rapes/murders/etc do I have to understand how bad of a day he had? Do I have to understand that Math Hoffa didn't get to eat breakfast before he stole off on Serius? DO I GABI!!??!!!

 

[desertrain10]

Very Smart Brothas article

Hmmm.....just watch the feelings fly.

The writer can get the D and that's about it (this is me being nice and not exhibiting feels), but the comment section is pretty interesting. As usual it's divisive, the women are saying outlandish bullshit, niggas are responding with logic (from what I've seen). Typical day on Black Internet...

Someone called them Ovarian Americans... :joy:

I gotta use that shyt!!!

Issa was wrong

But can we all agree that Lawrence contributed to the breakdown of the relationship

Meh...unknowingly.

Remember Issa wasn't communicating the issue she was having wit the relationship to Lawrence. She went to everyone else but the person she's in the relationship wit. So in his eyes, everything was all good. And when he tried to get her to talk about what was going on, she went mute.

Yea she didn't help the situation at all

But nobody is gonna be cool with their mate bumming around the crib all day, going from job to job while he or she is out trying to keep the bills up to date

And I picked up her body language around him first episode she wasn't happy

I gotta rewatch, but I think he also forgot her bday

Plus I remember Issa telling Molly he was slacking in the bedroom, they weren't going out a lot

Again Issa was wrong for what she did....But they deserve each other

B-day I give you...everything else is on her.

The one of the main things I took from their situation, is that it starts with communication first & foremost.

All that assuming the other person will eventually read your mind, hopefully figures out why you're unhappy does nothing.

That's the burden black women bear tho. Cuz I was on the "issa ain't shit" wave before Daniel for not communicating effectively...but y'all gotta realize she was carrying the load of the relationship financially and emotionally.

Lawrence was probly feeling emasculated he couldn't even contribute to bills and shit like that, let alone take his girl out for dinner regularly and do nice things for her... and a lil depressed cuz he couldn't get his app off the ground....so how do you, as the support system for this black man, broach the subject of "I need you to do more" without coming off as the nagging angry black woman stereotype on one end, but also knowing that by doing so, you're more than likely just gonna push him deeper into his funk by pointing out where he's fucking up? Cuz if you do that and push him away, that sacrifice you made to hold him down goes away with nothing to show for it. No thanks, no severance package, no card, no pat on the back...I see why she bit her tongue for so long even if to her detriment.

At the start of the series they were both checked out emotionally. Carrying the relationship while watching your man bum it and sit in his feelings for however long takes a toll on you....and so does trying to do something that just won't work and you can't catch no breaks while you see your woman struggle and bust ass for both of you and you can't help.

exactly

no one is trying to give issa a pass or make out Lawrence to be a bad guy

but I can empathize with her

she was in a tough spot and she obviously loved him

That's exactly what yall trying to do and the shit is hilariously sad. If she was feeling that worn down she could've simply broke up with homie. There's no such thing as a perfect relationship , we're always gonna be annoyed by shit our s/o does, there's no excuse to cheat.

Let that nigga L had cheated first (yea I call him L now) and we (niggas) supported/empathized with the shit by saying " he was obviously so distraught and hurt by Issa for not supporting his dreams and talking down to him all the time, I could empathize with him , it hurt to watch that's the everyday struggle of the black male " yall wouldn't let that shit fly for a sec lmaooo

swear yall niggas are incapable of having a nuanced conversation

we've all come to the conclusion issa's actions were wrong, right?

but from what we seen, can you honestly say Lawrence was without faults? no....case closed lol

and I wasn't even mad at dude for getting with Tasha

 

[atribecalledgabi]

Very Smart Brothas article

Hmmm.....just watch the feelings fly.

The writer can get the D and that's about it (this is me being nice and not exhibiting feels), but the comment section is pretty interesting. As usual it's divisive, the women are saying outlandish bullshit, niggas are responding with logic (from what I've seen). Typical day on Black Internet...

Someone called them Ovarian Americans... :joy:

I gotta use that shyt!!!

Issa was wrong

But can we all agree that Lawrence contributed to the breakdown of the relationship

Meh...unknowingly.

Remember Issa wasn't communicating the issue she was having wit the relationship to Lawrence. She went to everyone else but the person she's in the relationship wit. So in his eyes, everything was all good. And when he tried to get her to talk about what was going on, she went mute.

Yea she didn't help the situation at all

But nobody is gonna be cool with their mate bumming around the crib all day, going from job to job while he or she is out trying to keep the bills up to date

And I picked up her body language around him first episode she wasn't happy

I gotta rewatch, but I think he also forgot her bday

Plus I remember Issa telling Molly he was slacking in the bedroom, they weren't going out a lot

Again Issa was wrong for what she did....But they deserve each other

B-day I give you...everything else is on her.

The one of the main things I took from their situation, is that it starts with communication first & foremost.

All that assuming the other person will eventually read your mind, hopefully figures out why you're unhappy does nothing.

That's the burden black women bear tho. Cuz I was on the "issa ain't shit" wave before Daniel for not communicating effectively...but y'all gotta realize she was carrying the load of the relationship financially and emotionally.

Lawrence was probly feeling emasculated he couldn't even contribute to bills and shit like that, let alone take his girl out for dinner regularly and do nice things for her... and a lil depressed cuz he couldn't get his app off the ground....so how do you, as the support system for this black man, broach the subject of "I need you to do more" without coming off as the nagging angry black woman stereotype on one end, but also knowing that by doing so, you're more than likely just gonna push him deeper into his funk by pointing out where he's fucking up? Cuz if you do that and push him away, that sacrifice you made to hold him down goes away with nothing to show for it. No thanks, no severance package, no card, no pat on the back...I see why she bit her tongue for so long even if to her detriment.

At the start of the series they were both checked out emotionally. Carrying the relationship while watching your man bum it and sit in his feelings for however long takes a toll on you....and so does trying to do something that just won't work and you can't catch no breaks while you see your woman struggle and bust ass for both of you and you can't help.

exactly

no one is trying to give issa a pass or make out Lawrence to be a bad guy

but I can empathize with her

she was in a tough spot and she obviously loved him

That's exactly what yall trying to do and the shit is hilariously sad. If she was feeling that worn down she could've simply broke up with homie. There's no such thing as a perfect relationship , we're always gonna be annoyed by shit our s/o does, there's no excuse to cheat.

Let that nigga L had cheated first (yea I call him L now) and we (niggas) supported/empathized with the shit by saying " he was obviously so distraught and hurt by Issa for not supporting his dreams and talking down to him all the time, I could empathize with him , it hurt to watch that's the everyday struggle of the black male " yall wouldn't let that shit fly for a sec lmaooo

Chile plz. Like niggas wouldn't have criticized if she left him while he was down. Issa was foul for cheating. No denying that. But we also can't ignore the mindstate they both were in before Lawrence got his shit together.

Why do we have to understand the mindstate? So if a nigga rapes/murders/etc do I have to understand how bad of a day he had? Do I have to understand that Math Hoffa didn't get to eat breakfast before he stole off on Serius? DO I GABI!!??!!!

Why do we have to understand the mindstates??? Nigga we talking about (what looks like) the end of a 5 yr relationship. Nothing happens in a vacuum and it's never just one thing you can pinpoint as the reason it ends when you got that kinda time in.

And if they never wanted us to take the past into account they wouldn't have showed us....lol.

You smarter than this G....!!!!

 

[Mastery]

This

When a man cheats it's almost a given ...or ppl try to justify his actions... it was something he wasn't getting at home

Especially if he is supposedly a "good" man/provider

When a woman cheats she's immediately dismissed as a hoe and irredeemable

Issa was wrong

But can we all agree that Lawrence contributed to the breakdown of the relationship

Yea she didn't help the situation at all

But nobody is gonna be cool with their mate bumming around the crib all day, going from job to job while he or she is out trying to keep the bills up to date

And I picked up her body language around him first episode she wasn't happy

I gotta rewatch, but I think he also forgot her bday

Plus I remember Issa telling Molly he was slacking in the bedroom, they weren't going out a lot

Again Issa was wrong for what she did....But they deserve each other

That's the burden black women bear tho. Cuz I was on the "issa ain't shit" wave before Daniel for not communicating effectively...but y'all gotta realize she was carrying the load of the relationship financially and emotionally.

Lawrence was probly feeling emasculated he couldn't even contribute to bills and shit like that, let alone take his girl out for dinner regularly and do nice things for her... and a lil depressed cuz he couldn't get his app off the ground....so how do you, as the support system for this black man, broach the subject of "I need you to do more" without coming off as the nagging angry black woman stereotype on one end, but also knowing that by doing so, you're more than likely just gonna push him deeper into his funk by pointing out where he's fucking up? Cuz if you do that and push him away, that sacrifice you made to hold him down goes away with nothing to show for it. No thanks, no severance package, no card, no pat on the back...I see why she bit her tongue for so long even if to her detriment.

At the start of the series they were both checked out emotionally. Carrying the relationship while watching your man bum it and sit in his feelings for however long takes a toll on you....and so does trying to do something that just won't work and you can't catch no breaks while you see your woman struggle and bust ass for both of you and you can't help.

exactly

no one is trying to give issa a pass or make out Lawrence to be a bad guy

but I can empathize with her

she was in a tough spot and she obviously loved him

So I see folks trying to justify Issa cheating...

So I see folks trying to justify Issa cheating...

@ em and quote the posts.

Kthnx.

@desertrain10 @atribecalledgabi

 

[Mastery]

Very Smart Brothas article

Hmmm.....just watch the feelings fly.

The writer can get the D and that's about it (this is me being nice and not exhibiting feels), but the comment section is pretty interesting. As usual it's divisive, the women are saying outlandish bullshit, niggas are responding with logic (from what I've seen). Typical day on Black Internet...

Someone called them Ovarian Americans... :joy:

I gotta use that shyt!!!

Issa was wrong

But can we all agree that Lawrence contributed to the breakdown of the relationship

Meh...unknowingly.

Remember Issa wasn't communicating the issue she was having wit the relationship to Lawrence. She went to everyone else but the person she's in the relationship wit. So in his eyes, everything was all good. And when he tried to get her to talk about what was going on, she went mute.

Yea she didn't help the situation at all

But nobody is gonna be cool with their mate bumming around the crib all day, going from job to job while he or she is out trying to keep the bills up to date

And I picked up her body language around him first episode she wasn't happy

I gotta rewatch, but I think he also forgot her bday

Plus I remember Issa telling Molly he was slacking in the bedroom, they weren't going out a lot

Again Issa was wrong for what she did....But they deserve each other

B-day I give you...everything else is on her.

The one of the main things I took from their situation, is that it starts with communication first & foremost.

All that assuming the other person will eventually read your mind, hopefully figures out why you're unhappy does nothing.

That's the burden black women bear tho. Cuz I was on the "issa ain't shit" wave before Daniel for not communicating effectively...but y'all gotta realize she was carrying the load of the relationship financially and emotionally.

Lawrence was probly feeling emasculated he couldn't even contribute to bills and shit like that, let alone take his girl out for dinner regularly and do nice things for her... and a lil depressed cuz he couldn't get his app off the ground....so how do you, as the support system for this black man, broach the subject of "I need you to do more" without coming off as the nagging angry black woman stereotype on one end, but also knowing that by doing so, you're more than likely just gonna push him deeper into his funk by pointing out where he's fucking up? Cuz if you do that and push him away, that sacrifice you made to hold him down goes away with nothing to show for it. No thanks, no severance package, no card, no pat on the back...I see why she bit her tongue for so long even if to her detriment.

At the start of the series they were both checked out emotionally. Carrying the relationship while watching your man bum it and sit in his feelings for however long takes a toll on you....and so does trying to do something that just won't work and you can't catch no breaks while you see your woman struggle and bust ass for both of you and you can't help.

exactly

no one is trying to give issa a pass or make out Lawrence to be a bad guy

but I can empathize with her

she was in a tough spot and she obviously loved him

That's exactly what yall trying to do and the shit is hilariously sad. If she was feeling that worn down she could've simply broke up with homie. There's no such thing as a perfect relationship , we're always gonna be annoyed by shit our s/o does, there's no excuse to cheat.

Let that nigga L had cheated first (yea I call him L now) and we (niggas) supported/empathized with the shit by saying " he was obviously so distraught and hurt by Issa for not supporting his dreams and talking down to him all the time, I could empathize with him , it hurt to watch that's the everyday struggle of the black male " yall wouldn't let that shit fly for a sec lmaooo

swear yall niggas are incapable of having a nuanced conversation

we've all come to the conclusion issa's actions were wrong, right?

but from what we seen, can you honestly say Lawrence was without faults? no....case closed lol

and I wasn't even mad at dude for getting with Tasha

This what I'm talking about. You can't fault her for cheating WITHOUT throwing Lawrence's name into the mix. I rest my case.

 

[atribecalledgabi]

Very Smart Brothas article

Hmmm.....just watch the feelings fly.

The writer can get the D and that's about it (this is me being nice and not exhibiting feels), but the comment section is pretty interesting. As usual it's divisive, the women are saying outlandish bullshit, niggas are responding with logic (from what I've seen). Typical day on Black Internet...

Someone called them Ovarian Americans... :joy:

I gotta use that shyt!!!

Issa was wrong

But can we all agree that Lawrence contributed to the breakdown of the relationship

Meh...unknowingly.

Remember Issa wasn't communicating the issue she was having wit the relationship to Lawrence. She went to everyone else but the person she's in the relationship wit. So in his eyes, everything was all good. And when he tried to get her to talk about what was going on, she went mute.

Yea she didn't help the situation at all

But nobody is gonna be cool with their mate bumming around the crib all day, going from job to job while he or she is out trying to keep the bills up to date

And I picked up her body language around him first episode she wasn't happy

I gotta rewatch, but I think he also forgot her bday

Plus I remember Issa telling Molly he was slacking in the bedroom, they weren't going out a lot

Again Issa was wrong for what she did....But they deserve each other

B-day I give you...everything else is on her.

The one of the main things I took from their situation, is that it starts with communication first & foremost.

All that assuming the other person will eventually read your mind, hopefully figures out why you're unhappy does nothing.

That's the burden black women bear tho. Cuz I was on the "issa ain't shit" wave before Daniel for not communicating effectively...but y'all gotta realize she was carrying the load of the relationship financially and emotionally.

Lawrence was probly feeling emasculated he couldn't even contribute to bills and shit like that, let alone take his girl out for dinner regularly and do nice things for her... and a lil depressed cuz he couldn't get his app off the ground....so how do you, as the support system for this black man, broach the subject of "I need you to do more" without coming off as the nagging angry black woman stereotype on one end, but also knowing that by doing so, you're more than likely just gonna push him deeper into his funk by pointing out where he's fucking up? Cuz if you do that and push him away, that sacrifice you made to hold him down goes away with nothing to show for it. No thanks, no severance package, no card, no pat on the back...I see why she bit her tongue for so long even if to her detriment.

At the start of the series they were both checked out emotionally. Carrying the relationship while watching your man bum it and sit in his feelings for however long takes a toll on you....and so does trying to do something that just won't work and you can't catch no breaks while you see your woman struggle and bust ass for both of you and you can't help.

exactly

no one is trying to give issa a pass or make out Lawrence to be a bad guy

but I can empathize with her

she was in a tough spot and she obviously loved him

That's exactly what yall trying to do and the shit is hilariously sad. If she was feeling that worn down she could've simply broke up with homie. There's no such thing as a perfect relationship , we're always gonna be annoyed by shit our s/o does, there's no excuse to cheat.

Let that nigga L had cheated first (yea I call him L now) and we (niggas) supported/empathized with the shit by saying " he was obviously so distraught and hurt by Issa for not supporting his dreams and talking down to him all the time, I could empathize with him , it hurt to watch that's the everyday struggle of the black male " yall wouldn't let that shit fly for a sec lmaooo

swear yall niggas are incapable of having a nuanced conversation

we've all come to the conclusion issa's actions were wrong, right?

but from what we seen, can you honestly say Lawrence was without faults? no....case closed lol

and I wasn't even mad at dude for getting with Tasha

Girl...unless you calling for issa's blood I guess that means you condone her actions to these niggas lol

 

[Mastery]

Very Smart Brothas article

Hmmm.....just watch the feelings fly.

The writer can get the D and that's about it (this is me being nice and not exhibiting feels), but the comment section is pretty interesting. As usual it's divisive, the women are saying outlandish bullshit, niggas are responding with logic (from what I've seen). Typical day on Black Internet...

Someone called them Ovarian Americans... :joy:

I gotta use that shyt!!!

Issa was wrong

But can we all agree that Lawrence contributed to the breakdown of the relationship

Meh...unknowingly.

Remember Issa wasn't communicating the issue she was having wit the relationship to Lawrence. She went to everyone else but the person she's in the relationship wit. So in his eyes, everything was all good. And when he tried to get her to talk about what was going on, she went mute.

Yea she didn't help the situation at all

But nobody is gonna be cool with their mate bumming around the crib all day, going from job to job while he or she is out trying to keep the bills up to date

And I picked up her body language around him first episode she wasn't happy

I gotta rewatch, but I think he also forgot her bday

Plus I remember Issa telling Molly he was slacking in the bedroom, they weren't going out a lot

Again Issa was wrong for what she did....But they deserve each other

B-day I give you...everything else is on her.

The one of the main things I took from their situation, is that it starts with communication first & foremost.

All that assuming the other person will eventually read your mind, hopefully figures out why you're unhappy does nothing.

That's the burden black women bear tho. Cuz I was on the "issa ain't shit" wave before Daniel for not communicating effectively...but y'all gotta realize she was carrying the load of the relationship financially and emotionally.

Lawrence was probly feeling emasculated he couldn't even contribute to bills and shit like that, let alone take his girl out for dinner regularly and do nice things for her... and a lil depressed cuz he couldn't get his app off the ground....so how do you, as the support system for this black man, broach the subject of "I need you to do more" without coming off as the nagging angry black woman stereotype on one end, but also knowing that by doing so, you're more than likely just gonna push him deeper into his funk by pointing out where he's fucking up? Cuz if you do that and push him away, that sacrifice you made to hold him down goes away with nothing to show for it. No thanks, no severance package, no card, no pat on the back...I see why she bit her tongue for so long even if to her detriment.

At the start of the series they were both checked out emotionally. Carrying the relationship while watching your man bum it and sit in his feelings for however long takes a toll on you....and so does trying to do something that just won't work and you can't catch no breaks while you see your woman struggle and bust ass for both of you and you can't help.

exactly

no one is trying to give issa a pass or make out Lawrence to be a bad guy

but I can empathize with her

she was in a tough spot and she obviously loved him

That's exactly what yall trying to do and the shit is hilariously sad. If she was feeling that worn down she could've simply broke up with homie. There's no such thing as a perfect relationship , we're always gonna be annoyed by shit our s/o does, there's no excuse to cheat.

Let that nigga L had cheated first (yea I call him L now) and we (niggas) supported/empathized with the shit by saying " he was obviously so distraught and hurt by Issa for not supporting his dreams and talking down to him all the time, I could empathize with him , it hurt to watch that's the everyday struggle of the black male " yall wouldn't let that shit fly for a sec lmaooo

swear yall niggas are incapable of having a nuanced conversation

we've all come to the conclusion issa's actions were wrong, right?

but from what we seen, can you honestly say Lawrence was without faults? no....case closed lol

and I wasn't even mad at dude for getting with Tasha

Girl...unless you calling for issa's blood I guess that means you condone her actions to these niggas lol

This what I'm talking about. You can't fault her for cheating WITHOUT throwing Lawrence's name into the mix. I rest my case.

@atribecalledgabi

 

[Mastery]

There relationship problems and her cheating ain't got shit to do with one another. He didn't cheat, and he had every opportunity. He remained loyal. Issa did not. Case closed.

 

[Mastery]

I don't see what's so confusing. Anytime a person cheats and their relationship problems are immediately brought up, that's called trying to justify it. Period.

 

[FourEfil]

Also Lawrence "corrected" the issues that plauged the relationship. He got a retail job only to get his dream job right after. Idk about the bedroom part, but lawrence cleaned up after episode 4 and beyond.

 

[desertrain10]

Also Lawrence "corrected" the issues that plauged the relationship. He got a retail job only to get his dream job right after. Idk about the bedroom part, but lawrence cleaned up after episode 4 and beyond.

according to issa he'd been trying to get his shit together for 4 years

that takes a toll on a relationship

she could have left, but that is easier said than done after investing so much time and energy into a person

but lemme stop

issa is a thot undeserving of forgiveness who didn't deserve Lawrence, right? lol

 

[atribecalledgabi]

@Mastery

Nah nigga quote specifically where anybody said it was cool issa cheated cuz she didn't like her relationship

 

[Recaptimus_Prime360]

Again...Lawrence was not aware of the issues b/c ISSA was not communicatin that to him. So how is he suppose to know she was that unhappy if she wasn't saying anything.

She didn't have to come at him in a nagging type way, but she should've said something. I still don't get that. You live wit the brotha, yet you go to other people to express your feelings? Its one thing to vent to your friends, but what good is that if you're not gonna express those same feelings have to the person you got the issue wit?

 

[FourEfil]

Also Lawrence "corrected" the issues that plauged the relationship. He got a retail job only to get his dream job right after. Idk about the bedroom part, but lawrence cleaned up after episode 4 and beyond.

according to issa he'd been trying to get his shit together for 4 years

that takes a toll on a relationship

she could have left, but that is easier said than done after investing so much time and energy into a person

but lemme stop

issa is a thot undeserving of forgiveness who didn't deserve Lawrence, right? lol

Molly knows. But does he? That's the problem. And despite all that Molly told her own best friend to her face "You don't deserve a man like Lawrence"

 

[Mastery]

@Mastery

Nah nigga quote specifically where anybody said it was cool issa cheated cuz she didn't like her relationship

It has been more than implied several times.

The fact it can't be mentioned that Issa cheated without following it with Lawrence in some way speaks volumes.