If Kanye retires right now...is he G.O.A.T. status?

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KingdomKame;3507916 said:
lol he didnt say anything

Kanye's presence would've been more powerful if powerful words like "Bush don't like black people" came out of his mouth again! For 51 seconds, Russell barely got Kanye's name out, let alone a message... on that stage... a GOAT would've taken the mic and done what he's known to do... make a statement!

PS (KingdomKame): the girl in your avi is killing me... tell me you're dating her or something...
 
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garv;3507899 said:
Kanye would never be a GOAT rapper, he doesn't have the skills to be mentioned alongside the very best, and quite frankly its an insult to the likes of Nas, Jay-z, Common etc to put him in the same conversation. People these days are so quick to herald rappers when most of the rappers labelled as GOATS have either revolutionized rap lyricism, like Rakim or have put out a number of quality albums i.e Nas, Jay-Z, Common all while having the longevity that spans 20 years in the game.

If Biggie can be a GOAT, then why can't Kanye be a GOAT, retard?
 
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Pun1sher;3507956 said:
If Biggie can be a GOAT, then why can't Kanye be a GOAT, retard?

Pun1sher: your question was right now is Kanye a GOAT... he has some moves to go before we put him in that light...
 
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Pun1sher;3507992 said:
What kinda moves?

albums... dopeness across years and trends... that's a quick answer... his portfolio as a rapper isn't complete to be a GOAT... you have to separate him from the production and take him as a rapper to evaluate it properly...
 
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IBDMusic;3508025 said:
albums... dopeness across years and trends... that's a quick answer... his portfolio as a rapper isn't complete to be a GOAT... you have to separate him from the production and take him as a rapper to evaluate it properly...

Kanyes portfolio as a rapper > Jays imho. I will buy any kanye cd before i'd even think about buying a jay cd. Hell at this point in time i'd buy kanye before big or pac
 
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Pun1sher;3507876 said:
ROFL. He's closer to GOAT status than Marshall, too.

ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

only teenagers are impressed by kanye

fans of HIP-HOP dont take him seriously as a rapper

hes a dope producer he cant rap for shit..he dont even write his early shit which when he was good

you can tell he strarted writing his own shit on graduation thats when he fell off

EM has the sales and skills hes sold 70mil more albums than KANYE

EM is a WORLDWIDE artist kanye is a teenage homos wet dream
 
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ROFL.GUY;3508197 said:
ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

only teenagers are impressed by kanye

fans of HIP-HOP dont take him seriously as a rapper

hes a dope producer he cant rap for shit..he dont even write his early shit which when he was good

you can tell he strarted writing his own shit on graduation thats when he fell off

EM has the sales and skills hes sold 70mil more albums than KANYE

EM is a WORLDWIDE artist kanye is a teenage homos wet dream

That made NO sense, catfish face fag.
 
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G.O.A.T. producer? He has a real shot at that....

Legendary emcee? Probably...

G.O.A.T. artist? NO.

Pac, B.I.G., Jay, Nas, Cube, LL (even with the bullshit on the back end of his career), Big Daddy Kane, Em>>>>>Yeezie.
 
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Good point and good artist selection with Kanye, but nah not now probably in some years bc you have to understand as much as having quality music (albums, mixtapes, features, ects) counts in being G.O.A.T. alot of people don't understand that years in the game matter just as much as the music because put it this way, for instance Jay-z, or even LL (because he was brought up) fans consider these guys for mention of G.O.A.T. because not only in having quality music, the amount of years (Longevity) for a Mc to stay on his craft with fresh rhymes, storytelling, food for thought, wit, hot singles,(club bangers rather) good beat selections, with years of dominance is amazing. Now another major, major quality that many don't have is Impact...

Like how I mentioned Jay-z (hate him if you will) but the amount of year that he has in the game with many of the qualities that I mentioned above, it's only right to consider him G.O.A.T. and not to mention his Impact on hip-hop culture as a whole that most never had. Now a mc can have as much years in the game with some good records and some alright albums but without the major qualities of another mc... You understand what im saying
 
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IBDMusic;3508025 said:
albums... dopeness across years and trends... that's a quick answer... his portfolio as a rapper isn't complete to be a GOAT... you have to separate him from the production and take him as a rapper to evaluate it properly...

lmfao!!!!!albums?!kanye has THE BEST CATALOG EVER!u can debate it all u want...when we look back at his career people will realize how amazing his music really is...hes the a goat hip hop ARTIST....fuck being the best rapper, rather be known as better artist..and also cmon commons verse on get em high better than ye's?!please....hard to find like a remote?lmaoooo

ye>>>>
 
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ROFL.GUY;3508197 said:
ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

only teenagers are impressed by kanye

fans of HIP-HOP dont take him seriously as a rapper


hes a dope producer he cant rap for shit..he dont even write his early shit which when he was good

you can tell he strarted writing his own shit on graduation thats when he fell off

EM has the sales and skills hes sold 70mil more albums than KANYE

EM is a WORLDWIDE artist kanye is a teenage homos wet dream

im 31 and have been a fan of hip-hop since i was 4 so your point is mute.
 
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MrCrafty;3503593 said:
can't be the g.o.a.t if you don't wirte ya own shit...but he has the goat catalog tho

Same here, dude has made some great Cds, but I don't rate him as a GOAT candidate b/c I think he gets help writing

I think he said so himself.

I'm sure he writes at least half of his own rhymes, but I don't count him as a GOAT rapper for the same reasons I don't include Dr. Dre.
 
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Young-Ice;3509703 said:
nah but he top 20

I agree. I don't see how anyone could put him in the top 10 all time.

He knows how to make a great album, but that doesn't make him a great rapper
 
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Young-Ice;3509942 said:
lol @ kanye being top 10 best rappers..

dude is a producer first, rapper second

anyone in that lane will never be top 10 rapper

hes a top 10 producer

but he's not a top 10 rapper

You just a hatin' ass nigga.

You must got low self-esteem...
 
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Young-Ice;3509707 said:
isn't the term moot?

it is moot... so is this argument... he has evolved as a rapper... but dope producer + good rapper ≠ GOAT!

everyone is slinging that title around like the neighborhood ho! KRS = pioneer; LL = pioneer; Biggie & 2Pac transcended pioneer and are close to GOAT!

(frustrated) I'll never prove to you why he is not... so let's work on why you think he is?!? why is Kanye GOAT?!?
 
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IBDMusic;3510010 said:
it is moot... so is this argument... he has evolved as a rapper... but dope producer + good rapper ≠ GOAT!

everyone is slinging that title around like the neighborhood ho! KRS = pioneer; LL = pioneer; Biggie & 2Pac transcended pioneer and are close to GOAT!

(frustrated) I'll never prove to you why he is not... so let's work on why you think he is?!? why is Kanye GOAT?!?

How did The Notorious P.I.G. transcend pioneer?
 
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Pun1sher;3510013 said:
How did The Notorious P.I.G. transcend pioneer?

in an era of West Coast/East Coast, he went to all coasts and gained respect... worldwide people will bump his music because of how it impacted them then and now...

Is Kanye worldwide because of his production, his rhymes or his antics?!?

and you still haven't answered why he deserves GOAT!
 
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