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niggas think they better then others cause they got a college education..
well i think im better then u cause i got more money.. a degree or two..
i think its only fair..
Show me the value judgment. Where did I say I was better than someone? Stop attacking me and attack my argument.
i detect an condescending element in ur post.. whenever u post.. and i dont like it. HA!
Attacking your argument is condescending? Attacking YOU would be condescending. I've yet to do that. In fact, I applaud you for achieving your definition of success. I've yet to bemoan or demonize anyone's success in this thread. However, you and almost everyone who's on your side of the argument has found it necessary to denigrate me and the people in this thread who agree with me.
You're taking this thread as an attack on you, which it is not. But societies are about more than one person. I don't understand how you can look at the numbers and say "Yeah, it's in your interest to not go to college." Sure, there are entrepreneurial people who neither need nor want college. But the majority of people are not like that.
That's the long and short of my argument.
man i aint even read all that shit.. partlycause iwhat ur replyin to was a joke..
like i said.. im done with this thread..
but in closing i never said one SHOULDNT go to college.. all i was sayin is one doesnt have to.. but anyways.. im not about to sit here and argue the same points others have already argued.. for what? u dont want to gettit..
and jus so u know.. in terms of success or bein successful.. its not what u know.. its WHO u know..
yeh u got a degree and doin good but there's thousands of others who aint.. so who's the exeception!!? im sure u knew somebody that knew somebody that knows somebody and got u in.. yeh ur degree helped but dont sit here and front like thats what got u in..
u goin through all them channels to get where u get vs me doin what i do and bein able to meet the mu'fuckas face to face who u gotta go through three people to meet..
but whatever im done..
inwas really bout to break down how shit really works wit these cats.. but for what?? i dont need u in my way..
nor do i like u enough..
but trust me.. the shit i know u aint bout to learn in no book smart guy..
Yes, skilled labor is an alternative, but if today there are say 10K electricians, and ten years from now we only have 8K electrician jobs, there will be 2K without work.
You can't just say "ah, well, fuck 'em." Where do THOSE peopple work? So you might be in that 80% who retains employment, but what about the person who's laid off?
Ur hypothetical is just that..a bunch of what ifs..
Skilled labor is going nowhere and the demand will never fade..society was built by hands, sustained by hands and can be undone by hands..
Jobs without degrees disappearing? Lmao how stupid can u be to believe that? Who do you think serves the rich? I'm willing to bet my life it wont be a nigga with a college degree..unless outsourcing and the hiring of illegals become an epidemic, jobs that dont require a college degree will never disappear regardless of what the obama administration says..
This nation was built on the backs of wage workers..thats never gonna change..
You're right. It was.
It was built on the backs of wage workers without unions. See? There was a time when you needed Americans to have money, because we were the consumer class. But remember free trade? yeah, Now an American company can sell their shit everywhere. So they don't necessarily need Americans to have money to buy the products they make.
What you fail to realize is that unions made skilled labor an acceptable route to the middle class. Unions ensure fair pay, pay increases, and standard of living expenses(healthcare, PTO, sick time, etc.). Well, over the last several decades unions have been slowly losing their power.
That means skilled laborers will have no leverage. God damn, for fucks sakes niggas are strong arming teachers' unions. TEACHERS!
And yes, outsourcing is already an epidemic. What do you think Obama saving the auto industry is a key Democratic Party talking point?
If you're going to disagree with me, at least know wtf your'e talking about.
Lastly, the idea that b/c this nation was built on the backs of wage workers doesn't mean it's our future.
There was a time when farming was our engine in an agrarian society....it's not anymore
There was a time when industry was our engine following the first and second industrial revolution....it's not anymore
There was a time during the 50's and 60's which saw the single largest creation of wealth in the history of man....that's not happening anymore.
So your argument that b/c wage workers provided the foundation for our society in the past holds no weight. Out society is changing rapidly. Companies have no allegiances to borders or country anymore. One could argue that they're countries onto themselves.
Don't want to agree with me? Fine. But your argument is essentially that you know more than economists, and not even a "no street smarts havin' ass nigga" like me can call bullshit on that.