HHDX: Why Haven't Hip Hop Mention Will Smith Aka The Fresh Prince As The GOAT?

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5th Letter;c-10091730 said:
Matike85;c-10091705 said:
gee757;c-10091700 said:
To the nerds hitting me wit negs just like Drake will can never b a goat cuz he got GHOSTWRITERS!

nujerz84;c-10091702 said:
He had ghost writers once he went hollywood.

Did y'all watch the video?... Murs denounce the ghostwriter allegations about Will Smith aka Fresh Prince

So Nas didn't write Miami and Rakim didn't write Summertime?

blackgod813;c-10091750 said:
5th Letter;c-10091730 said:
Matike85;c-10091705 said:
gee757;c-10091700 said:
To the nerds hitting me wit negs just like Drake will can never b a goat cuz he got GHOSTWRITERS!

nujerz84;c-10091702 said:
He had ghost writers once he went hollywood.

Did y'all watch the video?... Murs denounce the ghostwriter allegations about Will Smith aka Fresh Prince

So Nas didn't write Miami and Rakim didn't write Summertime?

Are u sure

Watch the video bruh.... Case Closed
 
Matike85;c-10091760 said:
5th Letter;c-10091730 said:
Matike85;c-10091705 said:
gee757;c-10091700 said:
To the nerds hitting me wit negs just like Drake will can never b a goat cuz he got GHOSTWRITERS!

nujerz84;c-10091702 said:
He had ghost writers once he went hollywood.

Did y'all watch the video?... Murs denounce the ghostwriter allegations about Will Smith aka Fresh Prince

So Nas didn't write Miami and Rakim didn't write Summertime?

blackgod813;c-10091750 said:
5th Letter;c-10091730 said:
Matike85;c-10091705 said:
gee757;c-10091700 said:
To the nerds hitting me wit negs just like Drake will can never b a goat cuz he got GHOSTWRITERS!

nujerz84;c-10091702 said:
He had ghost writers once he went hollywood.

Did y'all watch the video?... Murs denounce the ghostwriter allegations about Will Smith aka Fresh Prince

So Nas didn't write Miami and Rakim didn't write Summertime?

Are u sure

Watch the video bruh.... Case Closed

Where in video did he say it im not sitting thru 14 minutes
 
Dude is a "goat," but I like "Fresh Prince" more than I like "Will Smith," and yes, DJ Jazzy Jeff is that dude. His work is not limited to Smith.

 
sapp08_2001;c-10091801 said:
He may not be the GOAT but him and Dj Jazzy Jeff Deserve a spot in the Hall Of Fame

You could make a strong argument that Jazzy Jeff is the Greatest DJ Of All Time.
 
So we actin like broadstreet bully beans ain’t more talented than black thought? Nigga has the charisma of a Toyota Corolla.
 
5 Grand;c-10091538 said:
water ur seeds;c-10091428 said:
IMO Fresh Prince had the GOAT DJ which helped haha... He could rhyme, be funny and tell stories and then he became 'Will Smith' his first two albums were dope, especially BWS, when I was a kid I used to rinse that album...

Cosign about Jazzy Jeff

Actually, their first two albums were legit. Their first album, Rock The House came out at a time where there weren't many rap albums at the time, so by default the college DJs played the hell out of it.

The second album, He's The DJ I'm The Rapper came out in the spring of 88. There was a lot of competition that summer but Fresh Prince & Jazzy Jeff had their own lane by that point. The were the Parent's Just Don't Understand and Nightmare on My Street, both novelty comedy songs at a time when Public Enemy and Stetsasonic were getting political, NWA and 2 Live Crew were getting censored and catching flack for their lyrics. Rakim, Kane and KRS were raising the bar for lyricism and groups like EPMD, The Jungle Brothers and De La Soul were raising the bar for sampling.

So while all that was going on, Fresh Prince & Jazzy Jeff had their own lane, thats why they worked. They didn't get political and they didn't curse on their records.

Anyway, I'd recommend listening to their first two albums. I'd give the first album 4/5 and the second album 3.5/5.




Im a massive fan of them breda, I got their whole catalog haha... Like you basically said they were like a different genre of hip hop, I like listening to all different kinds of hip hop, be it fun, political, conscious, street even ignorant at times, but whatever the case I always hold Jazzy Jeff as the GOAT DJ...

People clown Will at times, but I think he could as Fresh Prince rap with *almost* the best of them, if I remember correctly he used to battle rap coming up around Philly, and when I think of Philly hip hop in the 80s and 90s I think of tough lyrics but also even tougher DJ's...

He may of had help with writing as Will Smith but regardless he also had a butter flow, he also wrote some great stuff as Fresh Prince...
 
I still think Nas helped write for Will Smith, I think they were both on Columbia records at the same time, I also think Will had a Nas 'Esco' flow at times and Will actucally said Nas's name 'From civilians, to stars, they wanna know, who we are, it's me, big Will, Nas Escobar...'...


I real dope MC was on Combat Jack show once (i cant remember who/what episode) maybe Consequence??? And Im sure they said something they were suppose to be helping write for Will and Mos Def, Talib or Black Thought or some other conscious rappers was suppose to be or were helping write with Will when he got there... Or maybe I am remembering completely wrong lol
 
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water ur seeds;c-10092917 said:
I still think Nas helped write for Will Smith, I think they were both on Columbia records at the same time, I also think Will had a Nas 'Esco' flow at times and Will actucally said Nas's name 'From civilians, to stars, they wanna know, who we are, it's me, big Will, Nas Escobar...'...


I real dope MC was on Combat Jack show once (i cant remember who/what episode) maybe Consequence??? And Im sure they said something they were suppose to be helping write for Will and Mos Def, Talib or Black Thought or some other conscious rappers was suppose to be or were helping write with Will when he got there... Or maybe I am remembering completely wrong lol


That Big Willie Style album is at 9X Platinum.

I wonder what it would take for this album to sell another million to be diamond status?
 
Lefty_;c-10090884 said:
Beanie Sigel is the best rapper to ever come out of Philly anyway.

Goddammit where is the fucking Nosign button when you really need it.

Beans is no slouch but Black Thought >>> Beans..........easy
 
And Will's tv/movies >>> his music. Summertime and Parents Just Don't Understand are his musical highlights.

Fuck Jiggy With it and Miami.
 
nex gin;c-10093197 said:
And Will's tv/movies >>> his music. Summertime and Parents Just Don't Understand are his musical highlights.

Fuck Jiggy With it and Miami.

@ the bolded

Are you sure that Parent's Just Don't Understand are his musical highlights?

 
5 Grand;c-10093221 said:
nex gin;c-10093197 said:
And Will's tv/movies >>> his music. Summertime and Parents Just Don't Understand are his musical highlights.

Fuck Jiggy With it and Miami.

@ the bolded

Are you sure that Parent's Just Don't Understand are his musical highlights?

This is Will Smith we're talking about. That joint isn't even something that I would consider to be dope, but at least it was humorous. I liked that shit better than that commercially corny ass Jiggy and Miami bs.
 
nex gin;c-10093229 said:
5 Grand;c-10093221 said:
nex gin;c-10093197 said:
And Will's tv/movies >>> his music. Summertime and Parents Just Don't Understand are his musical highlights.

Fuck Jiggy With it and Miami.

@ the bolded

Are you sure that Parent's Just Don't Understand are his musical highlights?

This is Will Smith we're talking about. That joint isn't even something that I would consider to be dope, but at least it was humorous. I liked that shit better than that commercially corny ass Jiggy and Miami bs.

You have no idea what you're talking about




 
nex gin;c-10093192 said:
Lefty_;c-10090884 said:
Beanie Sigel is the best rapper to ever come out of Philly anyway.

Goddammit where is the fucking Nosign button when you really need it.

Beans is no slouch but Black Thought >>> Beans..........easy

Nah......You put em both on a track i'm going to bet beans will have the better performance 7 times out of 10. He was just coming into his own as an artist on the B coming, then his ship wrecked. But as a talent, Beans is better than Black Thought.
 

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