HHDX: Why Haven't Hip Hop Mention Will Smith Aka The Fresh Prince As The GOAT?

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Hes one of the biggest stars that hip hop created but hes just not that good of a rapper. Average rapper at best. So why should an average rapper be in the goat convo?

Summertime still one of the beat songs of all time though.
 
Will was ahead of his time. The culture was in a gangster state when Big Willie Style dropped. I find myself playing Getting Jiggy With It & Just Cruisin alot in present day. Will is a GOAT based on hiphops first Grammy alone.
 
Turfaholic;c-10091006 said:
Will was ahead of his time. The culture was in a gangster state when Big Willie Style dropped. I find myself playing Getting Jiggy With It & Just Cruisin alot in present day. Will is a GOAT based on hiphops first Grammy alone.

Funny how ppl always pick & choose when Grammys are worth a damn
 
TheGOAT;c-10091013 said:
Turfaholic;c-10091006 said:
Will was ahead of his time. The culture was in a gangster state when Big Willie Style dropped. I find myself playing Getting Jiggy With It & Just Cruisin alot in present day. Will is a GOAT based on hiphops first Grammy alone.

Funny how ppl always pick & choose when Grammys are worth a damn

Regardless of how people feel, a Grammy is the highest form of public recognition a artist can receive. Back then it was huge because hip-hop was fighting to be recognized as a form of music.
 
IMO Fresh Prince had the GOAT DJ which helped haha... He could rhyme, be funny and tell stories and then he became 'Will Smith', for me his first two albums were dope, especially BWS, when I was a kid I used to rinse that album...
 
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Will Smith is one of them dudes where you not gone play his shit on your own, but if one of his hits come on at a cookout or something you not mad about it at all.
 
water ur seeds;c-10091428 said:
IMO Fresh Prince had the GOAT DJ which helped haha... He could rhyme, be funny and tell stories and then he became 'Will Smith' his first two albums were dope, especially BWS, when I was a kid I used to rinse that album...

Cosign about Jazzy Jeff

Actually, their first two albums were legit. Their first album, Rock The House came out at a time where there weren't many rap albums at the time, so by default the college DJs played the hell out of it.

The second album, He's The DJ I'm The Rapper came out in the spring of 88. There was a lot of competition that summer but Fresh Prince & Jazzy Jeff had their own lane by that point. The were the Parent's Just Don't Understand and Nightmare on My Street, both novelty comedy songs at a time when Public Enemy and Stetsasonic were getting political, NWA and 2 Live Crew were getting censored and catching flack for their lyrics. Rakim, Kane and KRS were raising the bar for lyricism and groups like EPMD, The Jungle Brothers and De La Soul were raising the bar for sampling.

So while all that was going on, Fresh Prince & Jazzy Jeff had their own lane, thats why they worked. They didn't get political and they didn't curse on their records.

Anyway, I'd recommend listening to their first two albums. I'd give the first album 4/5 and the second album 3.5/5.


 
5 Grand;c-10091538 said:
water ur seeds;c-10091428 said:
IMO Fresh Prince had the GOAT DJ which helped haha... He could rhyme, be funny and tell stories and then he became 'Will Smith' his first two albums were dope, especially BWS, when I was a kid I used to rinse that album...

Cosign about Jazzy Jeff

Actually, their first two albums were legit. Their first album, Rock The House came out at a time where there weren't many rap albums at the time, so by default the college DJs played the hell out of it.

The second album, He's The DJ I'm The Rapper came out in the spring of 88. There was a lot of competition that summer but Fresh Prince & Jazzy Jeff had their own lane by that point. The were the Parent's Just Don't Understand and Nightmare on My Street, both novelty comedy songs at a time when Public Enemy and Stetsasonic were getting political, NWA and 2 Live Crew were getting censored and catching flack for their lyrics. Rakim, Kane and KRS were raising the bar for lyricism and groups like EPMD, The Jungle Brothers and De La Soul were raising the bar for sampling.

So while all that was going on, Fresh Prince & Jazzy Jeff had their own lane, thats why they worked. They didn't get political and they didn't curse on their records.

Anyway, I'd recommend listening to their first two albums. I'd give the first album 4/5 and the second album 3.5/5.




Good post
 
gee757;c-10091700 said:
To the nerds hitting me wit negs just like Drake will can never b a goat cuz he got GHOSTWRITERS!

nujerz84;c-10091702 said:
He had ghost writers once he went hollywood.

Did y'all watch the video?... Murs denounce the ghostwriter allegations about Will Smith aka Fresh Prince
 
Matike85;c-10091705 said:
gee757;c-10091700 said:
To the nerds hitting me wit negs just like Drake will can never b a goat cuz he got GHOSTWRITERS!

nujerz84;c-10091702 said:
He had ghost writers once he went hollywood.

Did y'all watch the video?... Murs denounce the ghostwriter allegations about Will Smith aka Fresh Prince

I don't believe him.......
 
Matike85;c-10091705 said:
gee757;c-10091700 said:
To the nerds hitting me wit negs just like Drake will can never b a goat cuz he got GHOSTWRITERS!

nujerz84;c-10091702 said:
He had ghost writers once he went hollywood.

Did y'all watch the video?... Murs denounce the ghostwriter allegations about Will Smith aka Fresh Prince

So Nas didn't write Miami and Rakim didn't write Summertime?
 
5th Letter;c-10091730 said:
Matike85;c-10091705 said:
gee757;c-10091700 said:
To the nerds hitting me wit negs just like Drake will can never b a goat cuz he got GHOSTWRITERS!

nujerz84;c-10091702 said:
He had ghost writers once he went hollywood.

Did y'all watch the video?... Murs denounce the ghostwriter allegations about Will Smith aka Fresh Prince

So Nas didn't write Miami and Rakim didn't write Summertime?

Are u sure
 

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