For all my people here that DON'T have children.

[Kai]

to all the people saying they have the same amount of freedom they did before they have kids, not sure i buy it. and i'm not talking about travelling or extravagant shit at all. can you decided to just up and leave at the spur of the moment without getting a babysitter? can you go out of town without getting your friends or family to watch your kid? do you get woken up at the ass-crack of dawn on the weekends cuz they wanna eat? can you decided to do some day drinking on a whim one weekend? the answer to all of that is no. i can decide right now that i'd rather go to a restaurant that isn't chucky cheese instead of making dinner

lets not even get started on how much kids talk, how much of your attention they demand. you don't get a second off when your kid is around. unless it's men who usually don't do as much of the caretaking as women do, i don't see how you can say having a kid doesn't eat up a large portion of your time and energy. i mean if you want to undertake that task, more power to you. but i'm perfectly happy not having to do any of that shit. and if you get fulfillment out of being a parent, great, but that doesn't mean everyone will or that that is the only way to get fulfillment out of life.

 

[blacktux]

for those of you on your high horses tom bout waiting to get married, you do know that if ya'll have kids, and ya'll get divorced, for whatever reason, she is now your baby mama too right? or is she the mother of your children b/c you put a ring on it?

let me know so i can see if i need to visit 2sides.com

LOL at this shit.

A woman divorced is an ex wife. At least the man thought enough of the woman to marry her, that says a lot.

As opposed to a broad that got some juice dumped in her, then got dumped.

 

[VulcanRaven]

I like the fact that I don't have children. No for a bad reason. If I do have some one day then that's cool but I would worry too much about my child and how this world treats them.

 

[VulcanRaven]

Imma just say this..lots of folks talking about losing their freedom ain't doing shit with the freedom they got. Y'all ain't all globe trottin, living some exciting life.

Children can give you purpose, and make you see life differently. It's a beautiful thing.

That is a lot of feelings right there. An ocean of feelings. We all drowning in those feels

 

[Copper]

Im just waiting on marriage. I know too many of the homies with baby mama problems and I dont want my child going through that. And im not cool with the ready made families these women already have

All kidding aside, A ready made family is not that bad.

You can splurge out of control on the baby daddies child support checks.

I mean she probably wasting it on herself anyway.

Poor kid don't know the difference between Apple Jacks and Apple Jackson's.

If all else fails, you can dip out and do you...take all the freebies you acquired during your stay.... win win.

also these niggas in here complainin about todays women not realizing alot of these single mothers got they wakeup call after having a child..

the woman they lookin for has all the qualities they lookin for OUTSIDE of the fact they have a child..

niggas really out here lookin for diamonds in the rough..

and sorry to say if u aint shinning nigga u bout as unrealistic as these bitches out here lookin for Mr Perfect..

here u go @Copper

in its ENTIRETY..

i put in bold the part that obviously went over ur head.

also emphasized a word to help u better understand what i was saying..

and i only used the phrase "diamond in the rough" is cause i immediately followed that up wit a nigga not "shinning" but lookin for somewhat that is.

sure that went over ur head as well..

No you continue to misunderstand the point being made and got all fiesty

u

which is why u were addressed the way u were..

cause after i clarified u tried to backtrack like i was the idiot..

nah nigga..

it dont work like that..

You are an idiot and you continue to make points nobody was arguing

 

[blackrain]

Imma just say this..lots of folks talking about losing their freedom ain't doing shit with the freedom they got. Y'all ain't all globe trottin, living some exciting life.

Children can give you purpose, and make you see life differently. It's a beautiful thing.

It's a beautiful thing if you are ready, but having a child at the wrong time can't be good.

You're never "ready" for the act of taking care of a human being that literally depends on you for everything.

 

[jetlifebih]

I'd suggest every nigga in here get a bad chick as a friend.. Don't fall for her.. But just be the homie.. You'll learn a lot..

Ey elaborate on this because I'm experiencing this right now...and there are many scenarios to this depending on her personality... @"EmM HoLLa."

 

[2stepz_ahead]

I'd suggest every nigga in here get a bad chick as a friend.. Don't fall for her.. But just be the homie.. You'll learn a lot..

Ey elaborate on this because I'm experiencing this right now...and there are many scenarios to this depending on her personality... @"EmM HoLLa."

it was already talked about bruh....go back to that same page

 

[SimplyKrys]

for those of you on your high horses tom bout waiting to get married, you do know that if ya'll have kids, and ya'll get divorced, for whatever reason, she is now your baby mama too right? or is she the mother of your children b/c you put a ring on it?

let me know so i can see if i need to visit 2sides.com

I would much rather have kids in wedlock and end up divorced than to pop out some guys kid without ever having been married to him.

 

[CapitalB]

Im just waiting on marriage. I know too many of the homies with baby mama problems and I dont want my child going through that. And im not cool with the ready made families these women already have

All kidding aside, A ready made family is not that bad.

You can splurge out of control on the baby daddies child support checks.

I mean she probably wasting it on herself anyway.

Poor kid don't know the difference between Apple Jacks and Apple Jackson's.

If all else fails, you can dip out and do you...take all the freebies you acquired during your stay.... win win.

also these niggas in here complainin about todays women not realizing alot of these single mothers got they wakeup call after having a child..

the woman they lookin for has all the qualities they lookin for OUTSIDE of the fact they have a child..

niggas really out here lookin for diamonds in the rough..

and sorry to say if u aint shinning nigga u bout as unrealistic as these bitches out here lookin for Mr Perfect..

here u go @Copper

in its ENTIRETY..

i put in bold the part that obviously went over ur head.

also emphasized a word to help u better understand what i was saying..

and i only used the phrase "diamond in the rough" is cause i immediately followed that up wit a nigga not "shinning" but lookin for somewhat that is.

sure that went over ur head as well..

No you continue to misunderstand the point being made and got all fiesty

u

which is why u were addressed the way u were..

cause after i clarified u tried to backtrack like i was the idiot..

nah nigga..

it dont work like that..

You are an idiot and you continue to make points nobody was arguing

look u fuckin embicile..

i said EVERYTHING that these niggas lookin for in a woman are found in alot of these single mothers.. and the only problem they have wit them is the fact that they're single mothers..

to look for the woman they want AND not have kids would be akin to lookin for a "diamond in the rough"

then u go on to say..

the fact a woman without kids is considered a diamond in the rough says somethin about society

when IN FACT nobody said that..

u bein the bitch u are chose to take from what i said what u wanted to.. u read what u wanted to read..

like these dumb bitches hear what they want to hear..

YOU made a point nobody was arguin..

but im done wit this conversation..

i made my point.. whether u want to realize it or not..

i dont argue wit bitches..

not even the ones who pay me..

 

[jetlifebih]

I'd suggest every nigga in here get a bad chick as a friend.. Don't fall for her.. But just be the homie.. You'll learn a lot..

Ey elaborate on this because I'm experiencing this right now...and there are many scenarios to this depending on her personality... @"EmM HoLLa."

it was already talked about bruh....go back to that same page

I just read it....topic really needs its own thread but

Me and the homies call it "friend zone until the end zone"(touchdown)....stay friends with the bih until she let you hit....in 2 for 2 with so called bad women or women in high demand as I just got hip to this shit in my mid 20s...I used to think being platonic friends with women was awkward...

But I'm getting to old for that shit....that shit be stressful...depending on your real MO......

 

[SimplyKrys]

34. And hell yeah I'm glad I'm childless. Official LAST of the Mohicans in my circle.

Besides, teaching these crazy muhfuckas gives me my daily reminder as to why I don't have nor want any right now.

Honestly, the only thing I'm wanting on is my ring. I'm down with one, two tops, but I have to married first. Fuck that baby moms shit. I've seen my brother go through it, and some friends, too. Them dudes be stressed with the shit ALL DAY sometimes, just trying to make sure work with they baby moms, as opposed to husbands and wives making decisions. When the parents get married, child raising seems is bit less stressful than baby moms-daddy drama/legal shit/visitation. Nah. Fuck that. I'd rather deal with it when we're all under one roof.

I understand that divorce could reduce our situation to that shit, but at least marriage guarantees we'll be somewhat stable for a while.

I really don't want to deal with that b.s. either. Good point.

 

[deadeye]

to all the people saying they have the same amount of freedom they did before they have kids, not sure i buy it. and i'm not talking about travelling or extravagant shit at all. can you decided to just up and leave at the spur of the moment without getting a babysitter? can you go out of town without getting your friends or family to watch your kid? do you get woken up at the ass-crack of dawn on the weekends cuz they wanna eat? can you decided to do some day drinking on a whim one weekend? the answer to all of that is no. i can decide right now that i'd rather go to a restaurant that isn't chucky cheese instead of making dinner

lets not even get started on how much kids talk, how much of your attention they demand. you don't get a second off when your kid is around. unless it's men who usually don't do as much of the caretaking as women do, i don't see how you can say having a kid doesn't eat up a large portion of your time and energy. i mean if you want to undertake that task, more power to you. but i'm perfectly happy not having to do any of that shit. and if you get fulfillment out of being a parent, great, but that doesn't mean everyone will or that that is the only way to get fulfillment out of life.

Yeah, @Kai .

Some people in here are lying.

They know good and damn well if they had it to do over again............they wouldn't have had kids.

Regret, bitterness, and resentment.

 

[ineedpussy]

im 57 and i still dont have no kids. i cry everynight because it is probably over for me. fuck that.....if you can have kids in your early thirties, then do it. youll never get time back and now all i do is sob at night. dont do it....have some litter. i still hope for me though. you know.....maybe a chick in her late twenties. i got to have hope, because thats all i got.

 

[CapitalB]

to all the people saying they have the same amount of freedom they did before they have kids, not sure i buy it. and i'm not talking about travelling or extravagant shit at all. can you decided to just up and leave at the spur of the moment without getting a babysitter? can you go out of town without getting your friends or family to watch your kid? do you get woken up at the ass-crack of dawn on the weekends cuz they wanna eat? can you decided to do some day drinking on a whim one weekend? the answer to all of that is no. i can decide right now that i'd rather go to a restaurant that isn't chucky cheese instead of making dinner

lets not even get started on how much kids talk, how much of your attention they demand. you don't get a second off when your kid is around. unless it's men who usually don't do as much of the caretaking as women do, i don't see how you can say having a kid doesn't eat up a large portion of your time and energy. i mean if you want to undertake that task, more power to you. but i'm perfectly happy not having to do any of that shit. and if you get fulfillment out of being a parent, great, but that doesn't mean everyone will or that that is the only way to get fulfillment out of life.

a kid is a responsibility.. no argument from me there..

but if ur already a responsible person all a kid is, is an ADDED responsibility..

but to answer ur questions if I want to get up spurt of the moment ill do jus that.. she has a mother..

if her mother wants to get up spurt of the moment and do something.. she has a father..

if we want to do something spurt of the moment she has an older brother and my cousin I have custody of..

if we want to do something spurt of the moment for a few days she has a grandmother thats retired that jumps at every chance to have her grandchild that lives in a different state...

do I get woken up crack of dawn?? yeh.. but anybody who aint a loner... who has family ..who has friends get them same wakeups.

kids talk.. lord knows mine won't shut up.. she get that shit from her mother.. but is that really a reason to not have a kid?? same for attention... yo nigga needs attention.. I don't see u saying u don't need a nigga....

and no.. men are not the caretakers..

I believe in gender roles.. its not my job to be in my daughters face all day every day when she's not in school...

its her mothers.. but in the even her mother wants to get out I have no problem having her..

anyone who looks at a kid as an inconvenience or a nuisance like I said before.. is unfit to parent..

but some of us welcome the added responsibility that pays off more then any other..

so yeh..

I still stand by what I said.. but I want to change it a lil..

I have a kid ..I raise a kid my girl had from a previous relationship in her teens.. and I raise a kid that I took custody of because his father is dead and his mother felt I provided him a more stable situation..

AND I HAVE MY FREEDOM..

 

[SimplyKrys]

im 57 and i still dont have no kids. i cry everynight because it is probably over for me. fuck that.....if you can have kids in your early thirties, then do it. youll never get time back and now all i do is sob at night. dont do it....have some litter. i still hope for me though. you know.....maybe a chick in her late twenties. i got to have hope, because thats all i got.

If you're being serious, then wow that is rare. My mom just turned 57 and now has grand-kids. As a matter of fact most of the 50 somethings I know have grand-kids.

 

[Copper]

@BOSSExcellence fat nigga stop writing paragraphs and quoting me

 

[ineedpussy]

Im just waiting on marriage. I know too many of the homies with baby mama problems and I dont want my child going through that. And im not cool with the ready made families these women already have

All kidding aside, A ready made family is not that bad.

You can splurge out of control on the baby daddies child support checks.

I mean she probably wasting it on herself anyway.

Poor kid don't know the difference between Apple Jacks and Apple Jackson's.

If all else fails, you can dip out and do you...take all the freebies you acquired during your stay.... win win.

also these niggas in here complainin about todays women not realizing alot of these single mothers got they wakeup call after having a child..

the woman they lookin for has all the qualities they lookin for outside of the fact they have a child..

niggas really out here lookin for diamonds in the rough..

and sorry to say if u aint shinning nigga u bout as unrealistic as these bitches out here lookin for Mr Perfect..

add to that, nigs gon pretend like some of their mothers didnt meet guys after their dads walked out and they were a ready made family

right!

not even jus on this board but niggas in the street be lowkey bitter these bitches aint pickin them firtst..

i mean thats what young people do..

they experiment.. they make mustakes..

BUT DO THEY LEARN??

niggas be actin like they perfect and a bitch suppose to see them how they see themselves and that aint how life work..

i try and tell niggas u dont want the young dumb naive bitch..

she go break ur heart everytime..

go for the one who knows bullshit when she sees it..

the one who's been through bad so go appreciate the good..

but u cant tell these niggas nothin. lol & smh

real truth to that. The reality of the world tho is at sometime or a nother u gonna be the nigga they really want or the fall back nigga they settling for. Ill be damned if Im the fall back guy taking care or a woman with kids who deep down I know wouldnt want me if life aint humble her with her current with kids and is older status. We can flex and pretend all day but most guys biggest fear is being the man their ole lady settled for. U gotta be comfortable in ur own skin and with ur values and let that be what it is. If that means being single or not having kids ti u meet what u want or if its settleing down with a chick with kids cuz u love her.... Whatever floats u boat.

at the end of the day who gives a fuck tho?!

do u got the bitch?! if anything u got the bitch right where u want her..

but the reality of the situation is niggas lack self confidence.. cause had they not the thought wouldnt even enter they mind.. ESPECIALLY if the bitch aint givin no signs..

niggas see a bitch wit a baby and AUTOMATICALLY assume she jus want him cause she lookin gor someone to take care of they kid..

no nigga..

she's lookin for a man to be with cause she cant afford to make the same mistake twice.. instead of her bein selfish fuckin wit a nigga cause he cute she's bein selfless and wanna fuck wit u cause she see the real nigga in u and is ready to devout herself..

we all come into adulthood brighteyed and bushy tailed..

until when!!? LIFE HUMBLES US..

so we go look at ger bein humbled as a bad thing when we've been humbled in our own personal way as well..

niggas cant have it both ways..

humbled? nigga please. she only got humbled because she had the baby. my uncle is fat as a muthafucka. has a good job, lives broke af, but has cheese in the bank. bitches dont know that. anyway this nigga kept telling me he had this light skinnt chick that was thick as a brick house. i seen her and said no but her daughter was another story. married a famous ball nigga. well i finally seen his ex chick out after they broke up and she was in different clothes and she was thick as a brick house.

after that moment i told that nigga she would of never messed with you if she didnt have two kids. even though those kids were by a nigga who turned into a crack head....but still. she wasnt fucking with that nigga if she didnt have kids. shes light skinnt. she has options.

 

[CapitalB]

@BOSSExcellence fat nigga wit more money more bitches more success than me stop writing paragraphs and quoting me

fixed..

and dont at me faggot.

 

[2stepz_ahead]

to all the people saying they have the same amount of freedom they did before they have kids, not sure i buy it. and i'm not talking about travelling or extravagant shit at all. can you decided to just up and leave at the spur of the moment without getting a babysitter? can you go out of town without getting your friends or family to watch your kid? do you get woken up at the ass-crack of dawn on the weekends cuz they wanna eat? can you decided to do some day drinking on a whim one weekend? the answer to all of that is no. i can decide right now that i'd rather go to a restaurant that isn't chucky cheese instead of making dinner

lets not even get started on how much kids talk, how much of your attention they demand. you don't get a second off when your kid is around. unless it's men who usually don't do as much of the caretaking as women do, i don't see how you can say having a kid doesn't eat up a large portion of your time and energy. i mean if you want to undertake that task, more power to you. but i'm perfectly happy not having to do any of that shit. and if you get fulfillment out of being a parent, great, but that doesn't mean everyone will or that that is the only way to get fulfillment out of life.

Yeah, @Kai .

Some people in here are lying.

They know good and damn well if they had it to do over again............they wouldn't have had kids.

Regret, bitterness, and resentment.

I

maybe I'm just arrogantly confident that nothing was gonna stop me from being great. once I had kids ...life did not stop.

the only regret. resentment and bitterness came from who i had kids with.

if you niggas aint succeeding in life without kids....

lol

yes. I laughed at you all.

because you have no excuses.

and ya still ain't shit