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Feminism wants to tell you who to be attracted to and why.

Yet they have physical standards they put on men that cannot be controlled (skin color, height and race) and see no problems with it.

They dont want to be judged by their weight which is something that has a direct correlation between your lifestyle choices and health
 
Undefeatable;c-9712475 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-9712463 said:
Undefeatable;c-9712451 said:
And let me ask this: How would you feel about white people -- even well-meaning white people -- trying to dictate the goals of the black movement? Wouldn't you think that they would out of place? If so, why isn't the same thing true for women?

Yes, there are divisions even among feminists, but these internecine disagreements should be resolved among feminists.

That shit is not comparable. There is no racial analog to many of the factors at play in intergender relations.

And you probably feel embarrassed as a black man because you're an embarassment as a black man when you adopt the same illogical and ridiculous arguments to defend feminists that feminists do.

Let me ask you a question. Do you ever see some posts in threads like this that kinda make you cringe?

What kind of posts?

Here is an example:

Like Water;c-9711460 said:
I've yet to see an attractive woman, with some sense, and in a happy relationship, be a feminist. Do they exist? Probably not. You know why that type of woman isn't a feminist? Because she doesn't need to be. She's already happy and confident and doesn't need arbitrary cosigns from ugly ass, single, fat, bitter bitches.

Fuck a G.damn feminist. They can be purged right along with Trump supporters.

@ me next time, you fuckin passive aggressive faggot. @Undefeatable
 
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Copper;c-9713442 said:
Feminism wants to tell you who to be attracted to and why.

Yet they have physical standards they put on men that cannot be controlled (skin color, height and race) and see no problems with it.

They dont want to be judged by their weight which is something that has a direct correlation between your lifestyle choices and health




 
Copper;c-9713442 said:
Feminism wants to tell you who to be attracted to and why.

Yet they have physical standards they put on men that cannot be controlled (skin color, height and race) and see no problems with it.

They dont want to be judged by their weight which is something that has a direct correlation between your lifestyle choices and health

That dude in the video posted a couple pages back said some real shit. He said from now on, whenever a chick asks him how tall he is from now on he's going to ask what her waist size is.
 
Like Water;c-9713483 said:
Undefeatable;c-9712475 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-9712463 said:
Undefeatable;c-9712451 said:
And let me ask this: How would you feel about white people -- even well-meaning white people -- trying to dictate the goals of the black movement? Wouldn't you think that they would out of place? If so, why isn't the same thing true for women?

Yes, there are divisions even among feminists, but these internecine disagreements should be resolved among feminists.

That shit is not comparable. There is no racial analog to many of the factors at play in intergender relations.

And you probably feel embarrassed as a black man because you're an embarassment as a black man when you adopt the same illogical and ridiculous arguments to defend feminists that feminists do.

Let me ask you a question. Do you ever see some posts in threads like this that kinda make you cringe?

What kind of posts?

Here is an example:

Like Water;c-9711460 said:
I've yet to see an attractive woman, with some sense, and in a happy relationship, be a feminist. Do they exist? Probably not. You know why that type of woman isn't a feminist? Because she doesn't need to be. She's already happy and confident and doesn't need arbitrary cosigns from ugly ass, single, fat, bitter bitches.

Fuck a G.damn feminist. They can be purged right along with Trump supporters.

@ me next time, you fuckin passive aggressive faggot. @Undefeatable

@Undefeatable Any black man that cosigns black women being feminists is also a bitch and an idiot whose social life is most likely non-existent or unfulfilling. I deal in absolutes, and there is absolutely nothing that feminism does that is beneficial to the family structure of the black community. Period.

I'm all for women being paid the same as men, being treated as equals in the work force and being strong enough to stand on their own. However, we are inherently different, and all this "male-gaze" shit is fuckery and useless. There is nothing wrong with embracing and cultivating our differences without bashing the opposite sex. It can be done.

Now, take your little sissy ass on back to the friend zone, where you probably are a permanent resident, you Klinefelter's syndrome-having douchebag.
 
konceptjones;c-9712800 said:
blackrain;c-9712483 said:
konceptjones;c-9711945 said:
Madame_CJSkywalker;c-9711862 said:
to clarify

male gaze refers to the way the media and visual arts depict the world and women from a masculine point of view and in terms of men's attitudes

it often depicts women are objects or commodities here for male consumption which is obviously problematic...for one, it fosters a since of entitlement

or its always buy what I'm selling to get the girl or keep a man

so what I mean by "free women from the male gaze" is to challenge the aforementioned narratives

that said, everyone wants to feel wanted/everyone has their preferences.... nothing wrong with that

the issue some women have with kdot is if this was his idea of empowering "natural" women as many are saying it was, was shallow and did little to challenge these narratives

rather than just dismiss the women who do choose to wear makeup or use IG filters or go underneath the knife as 'fake' , explore why they do it and who is influencing these trends

also you shouldn't or even have to shame one group of women to uplift another, especially when it comes to aesthetics

and I see the irony of the situation given lira galore starred in king kunta a year or so ago has been lost on you all

but again I see how both sides of the debate are blowing things out of proportion...

at the end of the day kdot is a 28, 29 yr old man who raps, expect less....at least he us trying

everyone else, kdot isn't above criticism and this idea ppl are trying to crucify kdot is a bit over dramatic

Then go after the media for it, not Kendrick Lamar. Maybe admonish the women in media that also push this supposed "male gaze" because, clearly, those women are traitors to women everywhere... right???

Naw, y'all muhfuckas ain't gonna do that. You're going to sit there in your chairs and complain on Twitter and Tumblr taking shots at easy targets instead of doing the hard work of creating the change.

They do do that though...they even have a term for it...apparently it's chicks they call "pick me's"...the female version of a simp who will show no shame in the shit they do for male approval. You know the feminist ideals many of ya'll have problems with r a. aren't as bad as they seem on a basic level and 2. ya'll make your arguments really easy to counter because you approach them from the very place many women who deem themselves feminists often use as their own starting point. Many of ya'll are just as bad/annoying as the feminists you decry when these topics come up

Here's the ideology I have an issue with:

1. All sex is somehow rape, even when consensual and with married partners

2. The myth that women make only 70 cents to a man's dollar. This garbage was debunked by feminists yet it keeps being brought up as if it was a fact (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/christina-hoff-sommers/wage-gap_b_2073804.html)

3. When both a man and woman are equally drunk, it it always the man's responsibility to not have sex otherwise he's raping the woman. Also, all drunk sex is rape and the woman is always the victim even if she's the aggressor and initiates sex.

4. Women are to only be praised, coddled, and comforted even for trivial, meaningless things.

5. Giving a woman a compliment while out and about is "street harassment" and a borderline criminal act.

By and large women have every right that men do and then some, they simply refuse to acknowledge this.

They also refuse to acknowledge that simply being women gives them assloads of advantages in society as well as legally.

Who the fuck is running around saying #1 on that list? That's not feminism that's just stupidity and based on a myth that's long been debunked as a made up quote. As for #2 it is true that women do make less than men. How much is up in the air depending on industry but you're being willfully ignorant if you don't think that women face challenges in the work place that men don't simply because they're women. #3 is iffy and something that's not as black and white as it seems. #4. Nigga please. Ain't nobody for that disney princess shit. Ain't nobody above criticism simply because they have a pussy. 5. It ain't giving a woman a compliment it's the creepy shit men do to get a woman's attention. Just ask some women you know the wild shit dudes have done/said to them out in public.

Alot of the shit ya'll talk about aren't even things feminists actually throw out there. You take wild ass talking points like your first one and then think "Oh shit...all feminists think this because one dumb bitch said it" which isn't even something that was actually ever said. A simply google search can tell you that....The basic idea of treating someone as an equal and expecting equal of them isn't this terrible idea that ya'll make it seem. Every group a person identifies with carries some privilege. There's privilege's that come with being a man too. It's just how society operates...but having privileges doesn't mean there aren't down sides to shit.
 
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Essentially they have a problem with men having preferences. So they go looking for something to get upset about
 
mrtdb;c-9713778 said:
Essentially they have a problem with men having preferences. So they go looking for something to get upset about

If somebody has a problem with your preference it's usually because they don't fit said preference...in other words it's somebody who is insecure and would find a problem with anything and you shouldn't even bother to pay attention to them.
 
blackrain;c-9713774 said:
konceptjones;c-9712800 said:
blackrain;c-9712483 said:
konceptjones;c-9711945 said:
Madame_CJSkywalker;c-9711862 said:
to clarify

male gaze refers to the way the media and visual arts depict the world and women from a masculine point of view and in terms of men's attitudes

it often depicts women are objects or commodities here for male consumption which is obviously problematic...for one, it fosters a since of entitlement

or its always buy what I'm selling to get the girl or keep a man

so what I mean by "free women from the male gaze" is to challenge the aforementioned narratives

that said, everyone wants to feel wanted/everyone has their preferences.... nothing wrong with that

the issue some women have with kdot is if this was his idea of empowering "natural" women as many are saying it was, was shallow and did little to challenge these narratives

rather than just dismiss the women who do choose to wear makeup or use IG filters or go underneath the knife as 'fake' , explore why they do it and who is influencing these trends

also you shouldn't or even have to shame one group of women to uplift another, especially when it comes to aesthetics

and I see the irony of the situation given lira galore starred in king kunta a year or so ago has been lost on you all

but again I see how both sides of the debate are blowing things out of proportion...

at the end of the day kdot is a 28, 29 yr old man who raps, expect less....at least he us trying

everyone else, kdot isn't above criticism and this idea ppl are trying to crucify kdot is a bit over dramatic

Then go after the media for it, not Kendrick Lamar. Maybe admonish the women in media that also push this supposed "male gaze" because, clearly, those women are traitors to women everywhere... right???

Naw, y'all muhfuckas ain't gonna do that. You're going to sit there in your chairs and complain on Twitter and Tumblr taking shots at easy targets instead of doing the hard work of creating the change.

They do do that though...they even have a term for it...apparently it's chicks they call "pick me's"...the female version of a simp who will show no shame in the shit they do for male approval. You know the feminist ideals many of ya'll have problems with r a. aren't as bad as they seem on a basic level and 2. ya'll make your arguments really easy to counter because you approach them from the very place many women who deem themselves feminists often use as their own starting point. Many of ya'll are just as bad/annoying as the feminists you decry when these topics come up

Here's the ideology I have an issue with:

1. All sex is somehow rape, even when consensual and with married partners

2. The myth that women make only 70 cents to a man's dollar. This garbage was debunked by feminists yet it keeps being brought up as if it was a fact (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/christina-hoff-sommers/wage-gap_b_2073804.html)

3. When both a man and woman are equally drunk, it it always the man's responsibility to not have sex otherwise he's raping the woman. Also, all drunk sex is rape and the woman is always the victim even if she's the aggressor and initiates sex.

4. Women are to only be praised, coddled, and comforted even for trivial, meaningless things.

5. Giving a woman a compliment while out and about is "street harassment" and a borderline criminal act.

By and large women have every right that men do and then some, they simply refuse to acknowledge this.

They also refuse to acknowledge that simply being women gives them assloads of advantages in society as well as legally.

Who the fuck is running around saying #1 on that list? That's not feminism that's just stupidity and based on a myth that's long been debunked as a made up quote. As for #2 it is true that women do make less than men. How much is up in the air depending on industry but you're being willfully ignorant if you don't think that women face challenges in the work place that men don't simply because they're women. #3 is iffy and something that's not as black and white as it seems. #4. Nigga please. Ain't nobody for that disney princess shit. Ain't nobody above criticism simply because they have a pussy. 5. It ain't giving a woman a compliment it's the creepy shit men do to get a woman's attention. Just ask some women you know the wild shit dudes have done/said to them out in public.

Alot of the shit ya'll talk about aren't even things feminists actually throw out there. You take wild ass talking points like your first one and then think "Oh shit...all feminists think this because one dumb bitch said it" which isn't even something that was actually ever said. A simply google search can tell you that....The basic idea of treating someone as an equal and expecting equal of them isn't this terrible idea that ya'll make it seem. Every group a person identifies with carries some privilege. There's privilege's that come with being a man too. It's just how society operates...but having privileges doesn't mean there aren't down sides to shit.

1. These third wave feminists, that's who.

2. The amount is greatly exaggerated. With all things taken into account the amount shrinks to, IIRC, 97 cents to a man's dollar. Barely even worth talking about.

3. It's not iffy at all, it's pretty clear: If the laws are being drafted to say that a person is incapable of consenting to sex while drunk, then two drunk people having sex would both be guilty of a crime. However in practice it's the male that gets charged, never the female.

4. If you read the rhetoric being spewed by these 3rd wave internet/classroom feminists and carefully dissect it you'll come to the exact same conclusion.

5. Again, read and listen to these chicks out there: It ain't just giving chicks a compliment, it's speaking to them out on the street in general. They're actually saying shit like a man should never approach, speak to, or otherwise bother a woman at all when out in public and especially not on the street.
 
blackrain;c-9713784 said:
mrtdb;c-9713778 said:
Essentially they have a problem with men having preferences. So they go looking for something to get upset about

If somebody has a problem with your preference it's usually because they don't fit said preference...in other words it's somebody who is insecure and would find a problem with anything and you shouldn't even bother to pay attention to them.

i agree

the issue isn't with him stating his preferences though

truth is is that having a certain look comes with social benefits and privileges for women. instead of challenging that system of value, he is prioritizing his preferences in it

that's the issue

 
konceptjones;c-9713899 said:
blackrain;c-9713774 said:
konceptjones;c-9712800 said:
blackrain;c-9712483 said:
konceptjones;c-9711945 said:
Madame_CJSkywalker;c-9711862 said:
to clarify

male gaze refers to the way the media and visual arts depict the world and women from a masculine point of view and in terms of men's attitudes

it often depicts women are objects or commodities here for male consumption which is obviously problematic...for one, it fosters a since of entitlement

or its always buy what I'm selling to get the girl or keep a man

so what I mean by "free women from the male gaze" is to challenge the aforementioned narratives

that said, everyone wants to feel wanted/everyone has their preferences.... nothing wrong with that

the issue some women have with kdot is if this was his idea of empowering "natural" women as many are saying it was, was shallow and did little to challenge these narratives

rather than just dismiss the women who do choose to wear makeup or use IG filters or go underneath the knife as 'fake' , explore why they do it and who is influencing these trends

also you shouldn't or even have to shame one group of women to uplift another, especially when it comes to aesthetics

and I see the irony of the situation given lira galore starred in king kunta a year or so ago has been lost on you all

but again I see how both sides of the debate are blowing things out of proportion...

at the end of the day kdot is a 28, 29 yr old man who raps, expect less....at least he us trying

everyone else, kdot isn't above criticism and this idea ppl are trying to crucify kdot is a bit over dramatic

Then go after the media for it, not Kendrick Lamar. Maybe admonish the women in media that also push this supposed "male gaze" because, clearly, those women are traitors to women everywhere... right???

Naw, y'all muhfuckas ain't gonna do that. You're going to sit there in your chairs and complain on Twitter and Tumblr taking shots at easy targets instead of doing the hard work of creating the change.

They do do that though...they even have a term for it...apparently it's chicks they call "pick me's"...the female version of a simp who will show no shame in the shit they do for male approval. You know the feminist ideals many of ya'll have problems with r a. aren't as bad as they seem on a basic level and 2. ya'll make your arguments really easy to counter because you approach them from the very place many women who deem themselves feminists often use as their own starting point. Many of ya'll are just as bad/annoying as the feminists you decry when these topics come up

Here's the ideology I have an issue with:

1. All sex is somehow rape, even when consensual and with married partners

2. The myth that women make only 70 cents to a man's dollar. This garbage was debunked by feminists yet it keeps being brought up as if it was a fact (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/christina-hoff-sommers/wage-gap_b_2073804.html)

3. When both a man and woman are equally drunk, it it always the man's responsibility to not have sex otherwise he's raping the woman. Also, all drunk sex is rape and the woman is always the victim even if she's the aggressor and initiates sex.

4. Women are to only be praised, coddled, and comforted even for trivial, meaningless things.

5. Giving a woman a compliment while out and about is "street harassment" and a borderline criminal act.

By and large women have every right that men do and then some, they simply refuse to acknowledge this.

They also refuse to acknowledge that simply being women gives them assloads of advantages in society as well as legally.

Who the fuck is running around saying #1 on that list? That's not feminism that's just stupidity and based on a myth that's long been debunked as a made up quote. As for #2 it is true that women do make less than men. How much is up in the air depending on industry but you're being willfully ignorant if you don't think that women face challenges in the work place that men don't simply because they're women. #3 is iffy and something that's not as black and white as it seems. #4. Nigga please. Ain't nobody for that disney princess shit. Ain't nobody above criticism simply because they have a pussy. 5. It ain't giving a woman a compliment it's the creepy shit men do to get a woman's attention. Just ask some women you know the wild shit dudes have done/said to them out in public.

Alot of the shit ya'll talk about aren't even things feminists actually throw out there. You take wild ass talking points like your first one and then think "Oh shit...all feminists think this because one dumb bitch said it" which isn't even something that was actually ever said. A simply google search can tell you that....The basic idea of treating someone as an equal and expecting equal of them isn't this terrible idea that ya'll make it seem. Every group a person identifies with carries some privilege. There's privilege's that come with being a man too. It's just how society operates...but having privileges doesn't mean there aren't down sides to shit.

1. These third wave feminists, that's who.

2. The amount is greatly exaggerated. With all things taken into account the amount shrinks to, IIRC, 97 cents to a man's dollar. Barely even worth talking about.

3. It's not iffy at all, it's pretty clear: If the laws are being drafted to say that a person is incapable of consenting to sex while drunk, then two drunk people having sex would both be guilty of a crime. However in practice it's the male that gets charged, never the female.

4. If you read the rhetoric being spewed by these 3rd wave internet/classroom feminists and carefully dissect it you'll come to the exact same conclusion.

5. Again, read and listen to these chicks out there: It ain't just giving chicks a compliment, it's speaking to them out on the street in general. They're actually saying shit like a man should never approach, speak to, or otherwise bother a woman at all when out in public and especially not on the street.

Bruh that first thing is just a flat out lie. It's never actually been said. Just google it. It's a made up quote. Also you should be smart enough to know not to attribute everything you hear from a small faction of a group to the entire group. That's just being intellectually dishonest. What you're doing is taking the most extreme examples of shit and painting the entire group with that picture. When you actually read and research this shit and listen to women actually discuss you'll see that even women don't even agree on everything that gets tagged under the feminist label. Alot of women of color don't even like the label of feminists because of the negative connotations and automatic association with white women that it carries.
 
konceptjones;c-9713899 said:
Bruh that first thing is just a flat out lie. It's never actually been said. Just google it. It's a made up quote. Also you should be smart enough to know not to attribute everything you hear from a small faction of a group to the entire group. That's just being intellectually dishonest. What you're doing is taking the most extreme examples of shit and painting the entire group with that picture. When you actually read and research this shit and listen to women actually discuss you'll see that even women don't even agree on everything that gets tagged under the feminist label. Alot of women of color don't even like the label of feminists because of the negative connotations and automatic association with white women that it carries.

All these feminists are on some other shit though man. Even the ones that don't seem all that bad. Like, did you see that Breakfast Club interview with the two feminists?


This is a good example of how they will throw black men under the bus with a quickness. They weren't all crazy and hostile like the extreme feminists, but look at the shit they said. In one breath they are talking about how they are down for black men and support black men and are against the promotion of the stereotyping of black men. In the very same breath, they turn around and say that black men are the leading cause of death for black women. That's a bold ass lie. Homicide itself is the second leading cause of death, but only for two age groups (15-19 and 20-24) and that's all homicide not just by black men.
https://www.cdc.gov/women/lcod/2014/black/index.htm#modalIdString_CDCTable_0

How you going to be against the misrepresentation of black men as violent savages and then turn around and lie about us to portray us as violent savages? Who do you think does more damage when they make comments like that? Racist whites who have every reason to lie or black women who seemingly have no reason to lie? I don't care how good these feminists seem, they aren't friends to black males. And if you're purposely causing division between black males and females, how can you be good for the black community?
 
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The Lonious Monk;c-9714244 said:
konceptjones;c-9713899 said:
Bruh that first thing is just a flat out lie. It's never actually been said. Just google it. It's a made up quote. Also you should be smart enough to know not to attribute everything you hear from a small faction of a group to the entire group. That's just being intellectually dishonest. What you're doing is taking the most extreme examples of shit and painting the entire group with that picture. When you actually read and research this shit and listen to women actually discuss you'll see that even women don't even agree on everything that gets tagged under the feminist label. Alot of women of color don't even like the label of feminists because of the negative connotations and automatic association with white women that it carries.

All these feminists are on some other shit though man. Even the ones that don't seem all that bad. Like, did you see that Breakfast Club interview with the two feminists?


This is a good example of how they will throw black men under the bus with a quickness. They weren't all crazy and hostile like the extreme feminists, but look at the shit they said. In one breath they are talking about how they are down for black men and support black men and are against the promotion of the stereotyping of black men. In the very same breath, they turn around and say that black men are the leading cause of death for black women. That's a bold ass lie. Homicide itself is the second leading cause of death, but only for two age groups (15-19 and 20-24) and that's all homicide not just by black men.
https://www.cdc.gov/women/lcod/2014/black/index.htm#modalIdString_CDCTable_0

How you going to be against the misrepresentation of black men as violent savages and then turn around and lie about us to portray us as violent savages? Who do you think does more damage when they make comments like that? Racist whites who have every reason to lie or black women who seemingly have no reason to lie? I don't care how good these feminists seem, they aren't friends to black males. And if you're purposely causing division between black males and females, how can you be good for the black community?


I saw that interview when it first dropped and yeah the girl who said that statistic was on some bullshit with that one. My thing from the jump is, why do niggas take the most extreme examples of shit and paint a whole picture with it? Like i said in my previous post that's just being intellectually dishonest and leaves your whole point open to be destroyed. Every group got people in it who push bullshit but as said with anything else it's up to you to wade through the bullshit to actually see shit for what it really is.
 
blackrain;c-9714169 said:
Bruh that first thing is just a flat out lie. It's never actually been said. Just google it. It's a made up quote. Also you should be smart enough to know not to attribute everything you hear from a small faction of a group to the entire group. That's just being intellectually dishonest. What you're doing is taking the most extreme examples of shit and painting the entire group with that picture. When you actually read and research this shit and listen to women actually discuss you'll see that even women don't even agree on everything that gets tagged under the feminist label. Alot of women of color don't even like the label of feminists because of the negative connotations and automatic association with white women that it carries.

The "small faction" is the one in control of the narrative at this moment. They have all the power, they are the people getting these ridiculous laws drafted and passed. The old guard got what they wanted and now these new chicks have come in marching claiming everything that is not a positive affirmation of a female is misogyny, shit that has never been considered rape by intelligent people anywhere on the planet is now rape, and all this other bullshit going on.

I've read a lot, I've talked to folks. The bulk of women I've talked to around my age or older can't stand these "feminist" chicks, especially my wife; she pretty much hates them and everything they stand for. Even the women my moms age and older that went through all the shit back in the 60's and early 70's don't even like them... But they ain't trying to fight against them either. Most of them believe it's just a phase these chicks will outgrow, some genuinely don't give a fuck any more.

My wife and many (but not all) of her friends still have "old fashioned" beliefs. They believe the man should be the primary breadwinner. They believe in the man as head of the household. The believe that there's just some shit a man is better suited to do just as there are things a woman is better suited for. And a lot of them genuinely believe that feminism achieved it's goals long ago and the current form is dangerous to the family unit and society as well.
 
blackrain;c-9714255 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-9714244 said:
konceptjones;c-9713899 said:
Bruh that first thing is just a flat out lie. It's never actually been said. Just google it. It's a made up quote. Also you should be smart enough to know not to attribute everything you hear from a small faction of a group to the entire group. That's just being intellectually dishonest. What you're doing is taking the most extreme examples of shit and painting the entire group with that picture. When you actually read and research this shit and listen to women actually discuss you'll see that even women don't even agree on everything that gets tagged under the feminist label. Alot of women of color don't even like the label of feminists because of the negative connotations and automatic association with white women that it carries.

All these feminists are on some other shit though man. Even the ones that don't seem all that bad. Like, did you see that Breakfast Club interview with the two feminists?


This is a good example of how they will throw black men under the bus with a quickness. They weren't all crazy and hostile like the extreme feminists, but look at the shit they said. In one breath they are talking about how they are down for black men and support black men and are against the promotion of the stereotyping of black men. In the very same breath, they turn around and say that black men are the leading cause of death for black women. That's a bold ass lie. Homicide itself is the second leading cause of death, but only for two age groups (15-19 and 20-24) and that's all homicide not just by black men.
https://www.cdc.gov/women/lcod/2014/black/index.htm#modalIdString_CDCTable_0

How you going to be against the misrepresentation of black men as violent savages and then turn around and lie about us to portray us as violent savages? Who do you think does more damage when they make comments like that? Racist whites who have every reason to lie or black women who seemingly have no reason to lie? I don't care how good these feminists seem, they aren't friends to black males. And if you're purposely causing division between black males and females, how can you be good for the black community?


I saw that interview when it first dropped and yeah the girl who said that statistic was on some bullshit with that one. My thing from the jump is, why do niggas take the most extreme examples of shit and paint a whole picture with it? Like i said in my previous post that's just being intellectually dishonest and leaves your whole point open to be destroyed. Every group got people in it who push bullshit but as said with anything else it's up to you to wade through the bullshit to actually see shit for what it really is.


My whole point is that that wasn't an extreme example. That's typical of what they do. Modern feminists are constantly using half truths and misrepresented statistics to push their agenda. How many times have you heard about the 77 cents wage gap? Like @konceptjones pointed out, that's a complete abuse of statistics and you can't tell me that none of these women pushing that bullshit know enough about statistics to know why it's wrong. Another example they use is that 1 out of every 5 men is a rapist. They throw that shit around too recklessly too. All they did was divide the number of alleged rapes a year in the country and divide by the number of men. That's crazy. First of all, it doesn't take into account that some of those rapes probably weren't rapes. Second and more importantly, it doesn't account for the fact that most rapists are repeat offenders. When they accounted for that, I think the number was something like 1 out of 64. That's not good, but it's a hell of a lot better than 20%.

From what I've seen, there is very little from feminists that's actually factual. Almost all of it is either made up, opinion, or bad math.
 
i think feminism, like every movement has liberals , moderates (centrists) and extremists , and these are the extremists on that feminist movement spectrum , who nitpick anything and anyone who is not pure in their ideology. The funny thing is they always have to use big words and op-ed essays to condescendingly explain their bullshit.

Like all forms of extremist ideology they are biased , confused , misguided and have hypocritical opinions, that any rational woman or man can pick apart easily.
 
Madame_CJSkywalker;c-9713990 said:
blackrain;c-9713784 said:
mrtdb;c-9713778 said:
Essentially they have a problem with men having preferences. So they go looking for something to get upset about

If somebody has a problem with your preference it's usually because they don't fit said preference...in other words it's somebody who is insecure and would find a problem with anything and you shouldn't even bother to pay attention to them.

i agree

the issue isn't with him stating his preferences though

truth is is that having a certain look comes with social benefits and privileges for women. instead of challenging that system of value, he is prioritizing his preferences in it

that's the issue

Human beings have eyes and human civilizations are hierarchical so looks and physical features will always have a value.

It's not even a gender specific thing like feminists try to paint because both male and female have idealized versions of themselves. Those who fit that ideal are valued higher.

For example taller men are preferred over short men. Fitter men are respected more than fat men. Dark skin men are seen as more masculine and more dangerous.

Preferences are natural. Hierarchies are natural you don't have successful examples of multicultural societies.

 
LordZuko;c-9714394 said:
Madame_CJSkywalker;c-9713990 said:
blackrain;c-9713784 said:
mrtdb;c-9713778 said:
Essentially they have a problem with men having preferences. So they go looking for something to get upset about

If somebody has a problem with your preference it's usually because they don't fit said preference...in other words it's somebody who is insecure and would find a problem with anything and you shouldn't even bother to pay attention to them.

i agree

the issue isn't with him stating his preferences though

truth is is that having a certain look comes with social benefits and privileges for women. instead of challenging that system of value, he is prioritizing his preferences in it

that's the issue

Human beings have eyes and human civilizations are hierarchical so looks and physical features will always have a value.

It's not even a gender specific thing like feminists try to paint because both male and female have idealized versions of themselves. Those who fit that ideal are valued higher.

For example taller men are preferred over short men. Fitter men are respected more than fat men. Dark skin men are seen as more masculine and more dangerous.

Preferences are natural. Hierarchies are natural you don't have successful examples of multicultural societies.

The bold is false. Most great empires were multicultural societies. You're perpetuating the lies white nationalists use to push their bullshit.
 
Feminist have truth in what they are saying overall but mixed with pettiness and some outrage that really shouldn't be highlighted are some of the examples that make it look so unneeded.
 
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