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2stepz_ahead;c-9710046 said:is there a such thing as latina feminists?
Yes they're called white feminists.
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2stepz_ahead;c-9710046 said:is there a such thing as latina feminists?
twenty2;c-9711471 said:"Free women from the male gaze"?????
Nah... I'm not goin yo...
You ever seen a woman who doesn't garner ANY attention??? Be it wanted or UNwanted... I have. And let me tell you... They begin to question themselves like they got a split personality and one side is the host and the other is the contestant on a game show.
Let a woman TRULY get NO looks from NOwhere... Broad'll be ready to jump off somethin in no time.
And just to be fair... We'll go ahead and say this applies to the entire human race.
Even UNwanted attention lets you know... "Ok...IF I gotta settle........at least I have the option to do so..."
Will Munny;c-9711650 said:2stepz_ahead;c-9710046 said:is there a such thing as latina feminists?
Yes. And they are called latinx. This is not a joke.
Madame_CJSkywalker;c-9711862 said:to clarify
male gaze refers to the way the media and visual arts depict the world and women from a masculine point of view and in terms of men's attitudes
it often depicts women are objects or commodities here for male consumption which is obviously problematic...for one, it fosters a since of entitlement
or its always buy what I'm selling to get the girl or keep a man
so what I mean by "free women from the male gaze" is to challenge the aforementioned narratives
that said, everyone wants to feel wanted/everyone has their preferences.... nothing wrong with that
the issue some women have with kdot is if this was his idea of empowering "natural" women as many are saying it was, was shallow and did little to challenge these narratives
rather than just dismiss the women who do choose to wear makeup or use IG filters or go underneath the knife as 'fake' , explore why they do it and who is influencing these trends
also you shouldn't or even have to shame one group of women to uplift another, especially when it comes to aesthetics
and I see the irony of the situation given lira galore starred in king kunta a year or so ago has been lost on you all
but again I see how both sides of the debate are blowing things out of proportion...
at the end of the day kdot is a 28, 29 yr old man who raps, expect less....at least he us trying
everyone else, kdot isn't above criticism and this idea ppl are trying to crucify kdot is a bit over dramatic
Madame_CJSkywalker;c-9711862 said:to clarify
male gaze refers to the way the media and visual arts depict the world and women from a masculine point of view and in terms of men's attitudes
it often depicts women are objects or commodities here for male consumption which is obviously problematic...for one, it fosters a since of entitlement
or its always buy what I'm selling to get the girl or keep a man
so what I mean by "free women from the male gaze" is to challenge the aforementioned narratives
that said, everyone wants to feel wanted/everyone has their preferences.... nothing wrong with that
the issue some women have with kdot is if this was his idea of empowering "natural" women as many are saying it was, was shallow and did little to challenge these narratives
rather than just dismiss the women who do choose to wear makeup or use IG filters or go underneath the knife as 'fake' , explore why they do it and who is influencing these trends
also you shouldn't or even have to shame one group of women to uplift another, especially when it comes to aesthetics
and I see the irony of the situation given lira galore starred in king kunta a year or so ago has been lost on you all
but again I see how both sides of the debate are blowing things out of proportion...
at the end of the day kdot is a 28, 29 yr old man who raps, expect less....at least he us trying
everyone else, kdot isn't above criticism and this idea ppl are trying to crucify kdot is a bit over dramatic
blackrain;c-9711793 said:Will Munny;c-9711650 said:2stepz_ahead;c-9710046 said:is there a such thing as latina feminists?
Yes. And they are called latinx. This is not a joke.
That's not where the latinx comes from...that's a whole different area.
Plutarch;c-9711839 said:more hypocrisy about preferences, he got 'em good, haha:
@"Will Munny"
Will Munny;c-9711927 said:blackrain;c-9711793 said:Will Munny;c-9711650 said:2stepz_ahead;c-9710046 said:is there a such thing as latina feminists?
Yes. And they are called latinx. This is not a joke.
That's not where the latinx comes from...that's a whole different area.
Plutarch;c-9711839 said:more hypocrisy about preferences, he got 'em good, haha:
@"Will Munny"
Yeah it's so funny I could say something to a girl about how as I've gotten older I've just gotten so much more into the personality of a girl and cool I think it is when a girls personality blows me away and it's really just not about looks anymore.
And they would say "awwww that is so cool, I think that's awesome! I wish more men were like you!"
And then I would say "sooo can I get your number?"
And they would say "sure buddy, you bet"
Madame_CJSkywalker;c-9711862 said:to clarify
male gaze refers to the way the media and visual arts depict the world and women from a masculine point of view and in terms of men's attitudes
it often depicts women are objects or commodities here for male consumption which is obviously problematic...for one, it fosters a since of entitlement
or its always buy what I'm selling to get the girl or keep a man
so what I mean by "free women from the male gaze" is to challenge the aforementioned narratives
that said, everyone wants to feel wanted/everyone has their preferences.... nothing wrong with that
the issue some women have with kdot is if this was his idea of empowering "natural" women as many are saying it was, was shallow and did little to challenge these narratives
rather than just dismiss the women who do choose to wear makeup or use IG filters or go underneath the knife as 'fake' , explore why they do it and who is influencing these trends
also you shouldn't or even have to shame one group of women to uplift another, especially when it comes to aesthetics
and I see the irony of the situation given lira galore starred in king kunta a year or so ago has been lost on you all
but again I see how both sides of the debate are blowing things out of proportion...
at the end of the day kdot is a 28, 29 yr old man who raps, expect less....at least he us trying
everyone else, kdot isn't above criticism and this idea ppl are trying to crucify kdot is a bit over dramatic
konceptjones;c-9711945 said:Madame_CJSkywalker;c-9711862 said:to clarify
male gaze refers to the way the media and visual arts depict the world and women from a masculine point of view and in terms of men's attitudes
it often depicts women are objects or commodities here for male consumption which is obviously problematic...for one, it fosters a since of entitlement
or its always buy what I'm selling to get the girl or keep a man
so what I mean by "free women from the male gaze" is to challenge the aforementioned narratives
that said, everyone wants to feel wanted/everyone has their preferences.... nothing wrong with that
the issue some women have with kdot is if this was his idea of empowering "natural" women as many are saying it was, was shallow and did little to challenge these narratives
rather than just dismiss the women who do choose to wear makeup or use IG filters or go underneath the knife as 'fake' , explore why they do it and who is influencing these trends
also you shouldn't or even have to shame one group of women to uplift another, especially when it comes to aesthetics
and I see the irony of the situation given lira galore starred in king kunta a year or so ago has been lost on you all
but again I see how both sides of the debate are blowing things out of proportion...
at the end of the day kdot is a 28, 29 yr old man who raps, expect less....at least he us trying
everyone else, kdot isn't above criticism and this idea ppl are trying to crucify kdot is a bit over dramatic
Then go after the media for it, not Kendrick Lamar. Maybe admonish the women in media that also push this supposed "male gaze" because, clearly, those women are traitors to women everywhere... right???
Naw, y'all muhfuckas ain't gonna do that. You're going to sit there in your chairs and complain on Twitter and Tumblr taking shots at easy targets instead of doing the hard work of creating the change.
Madame_CJSkywalker;c-9711862 said:to clarify
male gaze refers to the way the media and visual arts depict the world and women from a masculine point of view and in terms of men's attitudes
it often depicts women are objects or commodities here for male consumption which is obviously problematic...for one, it fosters a since of entitlement
or its always buy what I'm selling to get the girl or keep a man
so what I mean by "free women from the male gaze" is to challenge the aforementioned narratives
that said, everyone wants to feel wanted/everyone has their preferences.... nothing wrong with that
the issue some women have with kdot is if this was his idea of empowering "natural" women as many are saying it was, was shallow and did little to challenge these narratives
rather than just dismiss the women who do choose to wear makeup or use IG filters or go underneath the knife as 'fake' , explore why they do it and who is influencing these trends
also you shouldn't or even have to shame one group of women to uplift another, especially when it comes to aesthetics
and I see the irony of the situation given lira galore starred in king kunta a year or so ago has been lost on you all
but again I see how both sides of the debate are blowing things out of proportion...
at the end of the day kdot is a 28, 29 yr old man who raps, expect less....at least he us trying
everyone else, kdot isn't above criticism and this idea ppl are trying to crucify kdot is a bit over dramatic
deadeye;c-9711955 said:Madame_CJSkywalker;c-9711862 said:to clarify
male gaze refers to the way the media and visual arts depict the world and women from a masculine point of view and in terms of men's attitudes
it often depicts women are objects or commodities here for male consumption which is obviously problematic...for one, it fosters a since of entitlement
or its always buy what I'm selling to get the girl or keep a man
so what I mean by "free women from the male gaze" is to challenge the aforementioned narratives
that said, everyone wants to feel wanted/everyone has their preferences.... nothing wrong with that
the issue some women have with kdot is if this was his idea of empowering "natural" women as many are saying it was, was shallow and did little to challenge these narratives
rather than just dismiss the women who do choose to wear makeup or use IG filters or go underneath the knife as 'fake' , explore why they do it and who is influencing these trends
also you shouldn't or even have to shame one group of women to uplift another, especially when it comes to aesthetics
and I see the irony of the situation given lira galore starred in king kunta a year or so ago has been lost on you all
but again I see how both sides of the debate are blowing things out of proportion...
at the end of the day kdot is a 28, 29 yr old man who raps, expect less....at least he us trying
everyone else, kdot isn't above criticism and this idea ppl are trying to crucify kdot is a bit over dramatic
2stepz_ahead;c-9711938 said:Will Munny;c-9711927 said:blackrain;c-9711793 said:Will Munny;c-9711650 said:2stepz_ahead;c-9710046 said:is there a such thing as latina feminists?
Yes. And they are called latinx. This is not a joke.
That's not where the latinx comes from...that's a whole different area.
Plutarch;c-9711839 said:more hypocrisy about preferences, he got 'em good, haha:
@"Will Munny"
Yeah it's so funny I could say something to a girl about how as I've gotten older I've just gotten so much more into the personality of a girl and cool I think it is when a girls personality blows me away and it's really just not about looks anymore.
And they would say "awwww that is so cool, I think that's awesome! I wish more men were like you!"
And then I would say "sooo can I get your number?"
And they would say "sure buddy, you bet"
never ran into a chick who said " sure buddy"
The Lonious Monk;c-9711891 said:Madame_CJSkywalker;c-9711862 said:to clarify
male gaze refers to the way the media and visual arts depict the world and women from a masculine point of view and in terms of men's attitudes
it often depicts women are objects or commodities here for male consumption which is obviously problematic...for one, it fosters a since of entitlement
or its always buy what I'm selling to get the girl or keep a man
so what I mean by "free women from the male gaze" is to challenge the aforementioned narratives
that said, everyone wants to feel wanted/everyone has their preferences.... nothing wrong with that
the issue some women have with kdot is if this was his idea of empowering "natural" women as many are saying it was, was shallow and did little to challenge these narratives
rather than just dismiss the women who do choose to wear makeup or use IG filters or go underneath the knife as 'fake' , explore why they do it and who is influencing these trends
also you shouldn't or even have to shame one group of women to uplift another, especially when it comes to aesthetics
and I see the irony of the situation given lira galore starred in king kunta a year or so ago has been lost on you all
but again I see how both sides of the debate are blowing things out of proportion...
at the end of the day kdot is a 28, 29 yr old man who raps, expect less....at least he us trying
everyone else, kdot isn't above criticism and this idea ppl are trying to crucify kdot is a bit over dramatic
How are you holding Kendrick accountable for what "the media" does? He's one person. He made a rap song that stated his personal preference. He didn't objectify anyone. He just stated what he wants to see. It shouldn't be seen as some crisis that one rapper likes natural women, especially when the same people who have been bashing men for having unrealistic standards are now the ones bashing him for showing appreciation for more realistic representations. It makes no sense. Feminists can't even be consistent with their bitching.
Madame_CJSkywalker;c-9712002 said:The Lonious Monk;c-9711891 said:Madame_CJSkywalker;c-9711862 said:to clarify
male gaze refers to the way the media and visual arts depict the world and women from a masculine point of view and in terms of men's attitudes
it often depicts women are objects or commodities here for male consumption which is obviously problematic...for one, it fosters a since of entitlement
or its always buy what I'm selling to get the girl or keep a man
so what I mean by "free women from the male gaze" is to challenge the aforementioned narratives
that said, everyone wants to feel wanted/everyone has their preferences.... nothing wrong with that
the issue some women have with kdot is if this was his idea of empowering "natural" women as many are saying it was, was shallow and did little to challenge these narratives
rather than just dismiss the women who do choose to wear makeup or use IG filters or go underneath the knife as 'fake' , explore why they do it and who is influencing these trends
also you shouldn't or even have to shame one group of women to uplift another, especially when it comes to aesthetics
and I see the irony of the situation given lira galore starred in king kunta a year or so ago has been lost on you all
but again I see how both sides of the debate are blowing things out of proportion...
at the end of the day kdot is a 28, 29 yr old man who raps, expect less....at least he us trying
everyone else, kdot isn't above criticism and this idea ppl are trying to crucify kdot is a bit over dramatic
How are you holding Kendrick accountable for what "the media" does? He's one person. He made a rap song that stated his personal preference. He didn't objectify anyone. He just stated what he wants to see. It shouldn't be seen as some crisis that one rapper likes natural women, especially when the same people who have been bashing men for having unrealistic standards are now the ones bashing him for showing appreciation for more realistic representations. It makes no sense. Feminists can't even be consistent with their bitching.
he is being held accountable for his own actions, that is assuming this was an attempt to empower/salute "natural" women....which the evidence supports opposed to him just stating his personal preferences
so again see other of his videos including king kunta
he didn't have to shame one group of women to uplift another
also this isn't just a feminist critique
as a female fan of Kendrick I can see why other female fans was alil disappointed
Madame_CJSkywalker;c-9712002 said:The Lonious Monk;c-9711891 said:Madame_CJSkywalker;c-9711862 said:to clarify
male gaze refers to the way the media and visual arts depict the world and women from a masculine point of view and in terms of men's attitudes
it often depicts women are objects or commodities here for male consumption which is obviously problematic...for one, it fosters a since of entitlement
or its always buy what I'm selling to get the girl or keep a man
so what I mean by "free women from the male gaze" is to challenge the aforementioned narratives
that said, everyone wants to feel wanted/everyone has their preferences.... nothing wrong with that
the issue some women have with kdot is if this was his idea of empowering "natural" women as many are saying it was, was shallow and did little to challenge these narratives
rather than just dismiss the women who do choose to wear makeup or use IG filters or go underneath the knife as 'fake' , explore why they do it and who is influencing these trends
also you shouldn't or even have to shame one group of women to uplift another, especially when it comes to aesthetics
and I see the irony of the situation given lira galore starred in king kunta a year or so ago has been lost on you all
but again I see how both sides of the debate are blowing things out of proportion...
at the end of the day kdot is a 28, 29 yr old man who raps, expect less....at least he us trying
everyone else, kdot isn't above criticism and this idea ppl are trying to crucify kdot is a bit over dramatic
How are you holding Kendrick accountable for what "the media" does? He's one person. He made a rap song that stated his personal preference. He didn't objectify anyone. He just stated what he wants to see. It shouldn't be seen as some crisis that one rapper likes natural women, especially when the same people who have been bashing men for having unrealistic standards are now the ones bashing him for showing appreciation for more realistic representations. It makes no sense. Feminists can't even be consistent with their bitching.
he is being held accountable for his own actions, that is assuming this was an attempt to empower/salute "natural" women....which the evidence supports opposed to him just stating his personal preferences
so again see other of his videos including king kunta
he didn't have to shame one group of women to uplift another
also this isn't just a feminist critique
as a female fan of Kendrick I can see why other female fans was alil disappointed
Madame_CJSkywalker;c-9712002 said:The Lonious Monk;c-9711891 said:Madame_CJSkywalker;c-9711862 said:to clarify
male gaze refers to the way the media and visual arts depict the world and women from a masculine point of view and in terms of men's attitudes
it often depicts women are objects or commodities here for male consumption which is obviously problematic...for one, it fosters a since of entitlement
or its always buy what I'm selling to get the girl or keep a man
so what I mean by "free women from the male gaze" is to challenge the aforementioned narratives
that said, everyone wants to feel wanted/everyone has their preferences.... nothing wrong with that
the issue some women have with kdot is if this was his idea of empowering "natural" women as many are saying it was, was shallow and did little to challenge these narratives
rather than just dismiss the women who do choose to wear makeup or use IG filters or go underneath the knife as 'fake' , explore why they do it and who is influencing these trends
also you shouldn't or even have to shame one group of women to uplift another, especially when it comes to aesthetics
and I see the irony of the situation given lira galore starred in king kunta a year or so ago has been lost on you all
but again I see how both sides of the debate are blowing things out of proportion...
at the end of the day kdot is a 28, 29 yr old man who raps, expect less....at least he us trying
everyone else, kdot isn't above criticism and this idea ppl are trying to crucify kdot is a bit over dramatic
How are you holding Kendrick accountable for what "the media" does? He's one person. He made a rap song that stated his personal preference. He didn't objectify anyone. He just stated what he wants to see. It shouldn't be seen as some crisis that one rapper likes natural women, especially when the same people who have been bashing men for having unrealistic standards are now the ones bashing him for showing appreciation for more realistic representations. It makes no sense. Feminists can't even be consistent with their bitching.
he is being held accountable for his own actions, that is assuming this was an attempt to empower/salute "natural" women....which the evidence supports opposed to him just stating his personal preferences
so again see other of his videos including king kunta
he didn't have to shame one group of women to uplift another
also this isn't just a feminist critique
as a female fan of Kendrick I can see why other female fans was alil disappointed