Epic grudge match: Slavery vs. Holocaust--

[Chike]

I just watched that whole 9 part series on youtube. It's very enlightening and has me wanting to do more research. I wrote down several terms from the videos as well as from this thread. I'm excited about this journey I'm about to take.

Seek and ye shall find, bro.

 

[kingblaze84]

But like i said with the other post...........who gave that to him???..............this shit is our culutre not there, 90 percent of hiphop listners r black, yet we cant get anythimg but trash on the radio. We can Blame pyschology all we want, but in the end of the day, when its all said in done its about us. We fucking oursleves up, U can blame the WHite man all u want, but minus the Cops, it aint The WHite Man Pullin the Trigger, Sellin drugs in the Hood. Its us, and we doin it to ourselves...........All im sayin is we nned to better ourselves, fix our on shit, invest in us, thats all

There is some truth in this post.....the white man has done many diabolical things in history obviously, but too many blacks are still making bad decisions that are often unecessary. I take one look at DMX and realize no white man makes him act the way he acts. I'm not letting crackers off the hook though, they easily have been the most evil race that's ever existed. No creature on Earth has a bloodlust as strong as the white man's. A history book will prove this.

 

[Chike]

There is some truth in this post.....the white man has done many diabolical things in history obviously, but too many blacks are still making bad decisions that are often unecessary. I take one look at DMX and realize no white man makes him act the way he acts. I'm not letting crackers off the hook though, they easily have been the most evil race that's ever existed. No creature on Earth has a bloodlust as strong as the white man's. A history book will prove this.

How exactly is DMX acting apart from how you have seen the media portray him? I admit, at first I thought DMX was messing up, but after seeing that "Destroying DMX" documentary, and actually hearing him speak in interviews, I am 90% convinced his image is being sabotaged.

You guys keep talking about how too many black people are making bad decisions, but it's not because they are choosing the bad decisions over the good, they just do not have any other knowledge of what else they can do or how else to act other than what is force fed to them by society. Psychology plays a huge role in why they are making bad choices.

Now if they KNOW of a better solution that is realistically in their power to do, and they still, no longer through ingnorance, choose to make bad decisions, they are no longer innocnet, and then yes they would have no one else but themselves to blame.

 

[Alkindus]

There is some truth in this post.....the white man has done many diabolical things in history obviously, but too many blacks are still making bad decisions that are often unecessary. I take one look at DMX and realize no white man makes him act the way he acts. I'm not letting crackers off the hook though, they easily have been the most evil race that's ever existed. No creature on Earth has a bloodlust as strong as the white man's. A history book will prove this.

race does not exist. the problem with you cats is that you let it exist. all I have read so far are individuels talking about others. what does all this white/black man shit got to do with You? No I mean really got do with you. don't you realize your an RACIST asshole not worthy of my shadow piece of shit if you keep preaching this allmost nationalistic race bullshit? How are you ever going to gain TRUE independency (body and mind) if you stay believing is such kindergarten bullshit? motherfuck the white and black man.

don't come with the 'well I live in Amerikka' excuse. the world around you ain't got shit to do with You. just because others belief in this bullshit doesn't mean you have to belief it. don't lert other peoples ignorance become your knowledge son.

 

[kingblaze84]

How exactly is DMX acting apart from how you have seen the media portray him? I admit, at first I thought DMX was messing up, but after seeing that "Destroying DMX" documentary, and actually hearing him speak in interviews, I am 90% convinced his image is being sabotaged.

You guys keep talking about how too many black people are making bad decisions, but it's not because they are choosing the bad decisions over the good, they just do not have any other knowledge of what else they can do or how else to act other than what is force fed to them by society. Psychology plays a huge role in why they are making bad choices.

Now if they KNOW of a better solution that is realistically in their power to do, and they still, no longer through ingnorance, choose to make bad decisions, they are no longer innocnet, and then yes they would have no one else but themselves to blame.

I see what you're saying but no one is forcing DMX to smoke crack and sniff coke! The white man isn't making him drive cars crazy and impersonate FBI officers. I'm a black male the same exact skin complexion as DMX (I would know, I met him in person) and despite what the media is "force feeding" society, I choose to live a life as straight as possible, minus some minor bad things we ALL do. DMX has to take responsibility for his own life and stop

blaming others for his own shortcomings. He has millions of dollars in the bank, what's the point of impersonating FBI officers now? Give me a fucking break......DMX KNOWS of a better solution, how often does he talk on his albums about his bullshit religious convictions? Isn't that a better way?

Ok, maybe following the Bible isn't the best choice.....after all, the piece of shit book known as the Bible supports slavery. DMX can take up after many positive role models out there, like Obama, Martin Luther King, Oprah, Booker T Washington, etc. DMX is a rapper so his memory is above average, he can memorize the writings of Marcus Garvey and Booker T, they all wrote about self empowerment. What does DMX do instead? Act like a crackhead. White people have caused TONS of major misery in world history, let there be no doubt, but DMX should know better. He has money now, no need to act a fool.

 

[kingblaze84]

race does not exist. the problem with you cats is that you let it exist. all I have read so far are individuels talking about others. what does all this white/black man shit got to do with You? No I mean really got do with you. don't you realize your an RACIST asshole not worthy of my shadow piece of shit if you keep preaching this allmost nationalistic race bullshit? How are you ever going to gain TRUE independency (body and mind) if you stay believing is such kindergarten bullshit? motherfuck the white and black man.

don't come with the 'well I live in Amerikka' excuse. the world around you ain't got shit to do with You. just because others belief in this bullshit doesn't mean you have to belief it. don't lert other peoples ignorance become your knowledge son.

I'm not racist at all, and as a matter of fact, I am very aware of my knowledge. I know blacks have committed atrocities in world history, but whites have done it on a much higher level. You DO NOT want to have this conversation with me, I will embarass you.

 

[tri3w]

There is some truth in this post.....the white man has done many diabolical things in history obviously, but too many blacks are still making bad decisions that are often unecessary. I take one look at DMX and realize no white man makes him act the way he acts. I'm not letting crackers off the hook though, they easily have been the most evil race that's ever existed. No creature on Earth has a bloodlust as strong as the white man's. A history book will prove this.

Not At alll............all im sayin is, if we stop Fucking up thats half the battle.............We can do shit to help ourselves instead of hindering us

 

[mind body soul]

Considering many Jews in the extermination camps were used as free slave labour, the Holocaust can be seen as a part of the larger scheme of slavery, rather than a separate entity.

 

[Chike]

I see what you're saying but no one is forcing 1)] DMX to smoke crack and sniff coke! The white man isn't making him drive cars crazy and impersonate FBI officers. I'm a black male the same exact skin complexion as DMX (I would know, I met him in person) and despite what the media is "force feeding" society, I choose to live a life as straight as possible, minus some minor bad things we ALL do. DMX has to take responsibility for his own life and stop
blaming others for his own shortcomings. He has millions of dollars in the bank, what's the point of impersonating FBI officers now? Give me a fucking break......DMX KNOWS of a better solution, how often does he talk on his albums about his bullshit religious convictions? Isn't that a better way?

Ok, maybe following the Bible isn't the best choice.....after all, the piece of shit book known as the Bible supports slavery. DMX can take up after many positive role models out there,2) like Obama, Martin Luther King, Oprah, Booker T Washington, etc. DMX is a rapper so his memory is above average, he can memorize the writings of Marcus Garvey and Booker T, they all wrote about self empowerment. What does DMX do instead? Act like a crackhead. White people have caused TONS of major misery in world history, let there be no doubt, but DMX should know better. He has money now, no need to act a fool.

1) How do you know he is really smoking crack and doing all this crazy stuff?

2) Seriously? Obama... He's a puppet figure head put in office on purpose and for a specific aganda by the higher ups. If you think Obama got to where he did on his own and through the voting system, then that explains why you jump to conclusions and think everything the media shows you about DMX is truth. And Oprah? Seriously?

 

[kingblaze84]

1) How do you know he is really smoking crack and doing all this crazy stuff?

2) Seriously? Obama... He's a puppet figure head put in office on purpose and for a specific aganda by the higher ups. If you think Obama got to where he did on his own and through the voting system, then that explains why you jump to conclusions and think everything the media shows you about DMX is truth. And Oprah? Seriously?

DMX has admitted to a crack and coke problem, and he's been convicted of these things several times in the past. Isn't he in jail right now? LOL.....don't stick up for the stupidity of DMX, I love his music, but don't pretend he's not an idiot. I don't see Common or Mos Def getting in trouble the way DMX always is. Don't forget what X said.....I'm the only nigga in the street walking around with 4 felonies......well, he has about 7 of them now.

As far as Obama, he's not perfect under any circumstances, but he still lives a great personal life. Oprah is a great humanitarian, she will donate more money to good causes than the entire IC combined. Her and Obama are both great people.....although Obama is taking way too long to get out of Iraq and Afghanistan, my main beefs with him.

 

[Chike]

DMX has admitted to a crack and coke problem, and he's been convicted of these things several times in the past. Isn't he in jail right now? LOL.....don't stick up for the stupidity of DMX, I love his music, but don't pretend he's not an idiot. I don't see Common or Mos Def getting in trouble the way DMX always is. Don't forget what X said.....I'm the only nigga in the street walking around with 4 felonies......well, he has about 7 of them now.

As far as Obama, he's not perfect under any circumstances, but he still lives a great personal life. Oprah is a great humanitarian, she will donate more money to good causes than the entire IC combined. Her and Obama are both great people.....although Obama is taking way too long to get out of Iraq and Afghanistan, my main beefs with him.

Like any super star, They are going to be exposed to things that might not be the smartest choice for them to make, but the funny thing is, the media only cares about someone smoking crack when they start to try and make things right and head back onto the right path. The whole purpose is to destroy their image so that people, much like yourself, will start pointing fingers and calling him a crack head and an idiot even when he's trying to make things right. Congratulations for falling for the very foundation of what the media is built and exists for. As far as Obama and Oprah goes, How is Obama living a good life and anyone of importance to the black struggle when he's now the so-called leader of the enemiy's empire? Oprah is tool and anyone with that much money is not going to do any good for humanity. Money does not fix problems... and she can donate money to all thes e bullshit charities built to pacify people and make the ones who are suffering live with their suffering, rather than actually using the funds to destroy the root cause of the problem. Calling yourself successful because you make alot of money is no different than calling yourself successful because you're successful at murdering people...

 

[kingblaze84]

Like any super star, They are going to be exposed to things that might not be the smartest choice for them to make, but the funny thing is, the media only cares about someone smoking crack when they start to try and make things right and head back onto the right path. The whole purpose is to destroy their image so that people, much like yourself, will start pointing fingers and calling him a crack head and an idiot even when he's trying to make things right. Congratulations for falling for the very foundation of what the media is built and exists for. As far as Obama and Oprah goes, How is Obama living a good life and anyone of importance to the black struggle when he's now the so-called leader of the enemiy's empire? Oprah is tool and anyone with that much money is not going to do any good for humanity. Money does not fix problems... and she can donate money to all thes e bullshit charities built to pacify people and make the ones who are suffering live with their suffering, rather than actually using the funds to destroy the root cause of the problem. Calling yourself successful because you make alot of money is no different than calling yourself successful because you're successful at murdering people...

Even if DMX is trying to better his life now, he's still embarassing himself by constantly getting in trouble for STUPID reasons. It ruins the

credibility of someone when their getting arrested for cocaine possession and impersonating FBI officers, especially when that person

claims to be so close to God. That's the same reason the Pope and the Catholic Church have very little credibility right now, they all look

like hypocrites. It's cool to be trying to better your life, but you gotta walk the walk too.....that's why I do respect Obama and Oprah. Their

not perfect people but they do a lot to help people around them. Obama's healthcare bill will help the poor and middle class immensely, and

Oprah is building schools in Africa. Imagine if Oprah or Obama were getting arrested for driving crazy on the road 3 or 4 times, like DMX has.

Or if they were impersonating FBI officers for no reason......or just acting a fool in general. Oprah and Obama do many great things for

people, as I'm sure DMX has done. But don't defend DMX's stupidity, for every DMX, there are plenty of other people not acting like an

ass every 6 months. Earl Simmons is a smart guy, but doesn't act like one.....he might be traumatized from his bad childhood and horrible mother, but he's close to 40 now.....time to smarten up.

 

[Chike]

Even if DMX is trying to better his life now, he's still embarassing himself by constantly getting in trouble for STUPID reasons. It ruins the
credibility of someone when their getting arrested for cocaine possession and impersonating FBI officers, especially when that person
claims to be so close to God. That's the same reason the Pope and the Catholic Church have very little credibility right now, they all look
like hypocrites. It's cool to be trying to better your life, but you gotta walk the walk too.....that's why I do respect Obama and Oprah. Their
not perfect people but they do a lot to help people around them. Obama's healthcare bill will help the poor and middle class immensely, and
Oprah is building schools in Africa. Imagine if Oprah or Obama were getting arrested for driving crazy on the road 3 or 4 times, like DMX has.

Or if they were impersonating FBI officers for no reason......or just acting a fool in general. Oprah and Obama do many great things for
people, as I'm sure DMX has done. But don't defend DMX's stupidity, for every DMX, there are plenty of other people not acting like an
ass every 6 months. Earl Simmons is a smart guy, but doesn't act like one.....he might be traumatized from his bad childhood and horrible mother, but he's close to 40 now.....time to smarten up.

I'm still...

 

[perspective@100]

Even if DMX is trying to better his life now, he's still embarassing himself by constantly getting in trouble for STUPID reasons. It ruins the

credibility of someone when their getting arrested for cocaine possession and impersonating FBI officers, especially when that person

claims to be so close to God. That's the same reason the Pope and the Catholic Church have very little credibility right now, they all look

like hypocrites. It's cool to be trying to better your life, but you gotta walk the walk too.....that's why I do respect Obama and Oprah. Their

not perfect people but they do a lot to help people around them. Obama's healthcare bill will help the poor and middle class immensely, and

Oprah is building schools in Africa. Imagine if Oprah or Obama were getting arrested for driving crazy on the road 3 or 4 times, like DMX has.

Or if they were impersonating FBI officers for no reason......or just acting a fool in general. Oprah and Obama do many great things for

people, as I'm sure DMX has done. But don't defend DMX's stupidity, for every DMX, there are plenty of other people not acting like an

ass every 6 months. Earl Simmons is a smart guy, but doesn't act like one.....he might be traumatized from his bad childhood and horrible mother, but he's close to 40 now.....time to smarten up.

If I can chime in...... Obama's plan is o-k, being middle class I'm getting by just fine without health care

and now that I will have to get it in the near future or be fined does not help me one bit and all my friends are in the same boat.....

Oprah's schools although she means good she does not understand some of the cultures in Africa,

hense all the abuse allegations at these schools she continues to open. They still get whoopings in some of these places. Like Beat downs...

One Last thing, if you dont see what the media is doing to the catholic church then you are just BLIND! You can not Tiger Woods the pope into an apology... Please

 

[tri3w]

If I can chime in...... Obama's plan is o-k, being middle class I'm getting by just fine without health care

and now that I will have to get it in the near future or be fined does not help me one bit and all my friends are in the same boat.....

Oprah's schools although she means good she does not understand some of the cultures in Africa,

hense all the abuse allegations at these schools she continues to open. They still get whoopings in some of these places. Like Beat downs...

One Last thing, if you dont see what the media is doing to the catholic church then you are just BLIND! You can not Tiger Woods the pope into an apology... Please

i dont See anything worng with thwem trynna Get him to apologize

 

[ayyubam2002]

Originally Posted by perspective@100
If I can chime in...... Obama's plan is o-k, being middle class I'm getting by just fine without health care
and now that I will have to get it in the near future or be fined does not help me one bit and all my friends are in the same boat.....

Oprah's schools although she means good she does not understand some of the cultures in Africa,
hense all the abuse allegations at these schools she continues to open. They still get whoopings in some of these places. Like Beat downs...

One Last thing, if you dont see what the media is doing to the catholic church then you are just BLIND! You can not Tiger Woods the pope into an apology... Please

^^^^^^^what "all those abuse allegations " with Oprah's school.? There was one allegation and it was took care of. If you don't have healthcare then what is you going to do when you get sick or injured, go to the hospital right? Someone has to pay for it. I hope you are not defending the Catholic church and its' secret society of pedophiles.

 

[kingblaze84]

I'm still...

I'm very serious....DMX has to smarten up, he's too smart to be acting like a dumbass every 6 months. He's close to 40, if not 40 already, how long is he going to embarass himself and his 5 kids? It's his life, he can do what the fuck he wants, but acting a fool is not what's popping in 2010 (unless you in Chicago)

 

[kingblaze84]

If I can chime in...... Obama's plan is o-k, being middle class I'm getting by just fine without health care

and now that I will have to get it in the near future or be fined does not help me one bit and all my friends are in the same boat.....

Oprah's schools although she means good she does not understand some of the cultures in Africa,

hense all the abuse allegations at these schools she continues to open. They still get whoopings in some of these places. Like Beat downs...

One Last thing, if you dont see what the media is doing to the catholic church then you are just BLIND! You can not Tiger Woods the pope into an apology... Please

Obama's healthcare plan is not perfect, I wish we could have a public option but the nation doesn't have enough doctors frankly to cover 300 million plus people. This bill is good because it is going to put more money into the healthcare system, a system that is going broke fast. As a matter of fact, it's a good thing the rich and middle class will have to pay up more, someone has to pay for all this. At least the poor and people with pre-existing

conditions can get the care they urgently need now (or in 4 years).

As far as Oprah, the school is going through some issues right now but at least she is trying. Africa is the poorest continent, so any help they can get building schools is a great thing. You're not against educating people I hope? She's also donated millions for the fight against AIDS and poverty all over the world. She's very respected for a reason, I could never hate on her.

I also can't believe you're defending the Catholic Church right now, do you realize how much shit the Pope has covered up since he was an archbishop? Thousands of priests all over the world should be in jail, but the Pope instead is protecting them by moving them around, from parish to parish. That's not right, the victims should get justice, not have their molestors sent overseas to overlook even MORE children. The Pope needs to resign as fast as possible. SMH at a fucking former Nazi being the head of the Catholic Church, godamn!!!!!!!!!!! Even if he was a teenager at the time, it's still not a good look for the church, especially now.....

 

[hrap-120]

Bravo to those who chose to derail this thread....wouldnt want white-folks to start pouting...

How can the comparision of white-supremacist aggression against "non-whites" turn into a debate about DMX's addiction...and how the hell is DMX able to get cocaine when he's never been to South America??

Slavery and the Holocaust were horrible examples white hatred but the Tasmanians & Herero and Namaqua were almost completley exterminated by the white devils.

 

[Punisher__]

Bravo to those who chose to derail this thread....wouldnt want white-folks to start pouting...

How can the comparision of white-supremacist aggression against "non-whites" turn into a debate about DMX's addiction...and how the hell is DMX able to get cocaine when he's never been to South America??

Slavery and the Holocaust were horrible examples white hatred but the Tasmanians & Herero and Namaqua were almost completley exterminated by the white devils.

I see my brother is still sonning people.

Amazing.