Eminem – The Marshall Mathers LP 2 Discussion Thread (Nov 5th)

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blackrain;6449750 said:
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I finally listened to this joint fully and I listened to it 3 times....

This shit is fuckin dope fire!

On first listen I was disappointed but after 2 more times I finally got it.

It took Eminem 3 albums to finally get it. Relapse was an odd attempt at trying to over-do the whole "Slim Shady" thing and it turned into a strange serial killer concept album. Recovery was Eminem trying to adapt to the times and it turned into a "I'm the best rapper and look at how well I rap, rappity rap" This album he finally made a grown man Slim Shady album and it was his most cohesive project since the Eminem Show. Its like when Jay came back it took him til the BP3 (IMO) to adapt more with the current landscape while staying to who he was without sounding forced.

I could have done without "Asshole" and "The Monster" Survival is dope as hell idk why that track is slept on. Think Legacy is one of the best tracks on the album. I dont get most people who dont like this album. What kind of album did you expect? This IS an Eminem album more than his last 2.

No disrespect, but MAJOR no sign on the bolded. Not so much on the BP3 thing, that's your opinion. But KC and AG were good comeback albums, even though the former gets (unfairly) shitted on and the latter gets slept on as a concept album. Plus, Jay still got some kinks to work out to get back to his true form. Like I said earlier, no one in rap history has come back from such a fall from grace like Em has.

I never said KC or AG weren't good come back albums but they both had forced music on them. KC was rushed and it was more "I'm president Shawn Carter" than Jay Z while AG he had to revert back to pure coke raps just to appease ppl who didn't like KC. BP3 he finally merged with the times and he's been THAT Jay since

The AG album went hand in hand with the movie. I never got why people say "Jay went back to drug dealing raps" as if it wasn't done w/o a purpose

Thanks for stating the obvious

My point is he MADE that album and did what he does best. He could have absolutely NOT made that album.

Yeah because when someone makes a movie soundtrack, the songs should have nothing to do with the movie at all.

It was never the actual soundtrack of the movie so your opinion is already shot.
 
The thing with Em is that he's so focused on making the best out of his lyrics that when he has a line that's not great he still tries to make it work ,so the way he enunciates those words within whatever flow he is using makes it sound forced which makes it easy for his critics to say "see look how wack this line is" while totally ignoring him murdering the flow before and after said line....I look at it as at least he is trying where a lot of other rappers just mail it in....it is funny tho how we can criticize a rapper like Eminem for doing too much and every other rapper gets criticized for not doing enough or just simply falling off lol
 
Only had a chance to listen to the first song so far, but the reviews I keep reading aren't making me feel good about my purchase.
 
yroholla;6450174 said:
The thing with Em is that he's so focused on making the best out of his lyrics that when he has a line that's not great he still tries to make it work ,so the way he enunciates those words within whatever flow he is using makes it sound forced which makes it easy for his critics to say "see look how wack this line is" while totally ignoring him murdering the flow before and after said line....I look at it as at least he is trying where a lot of other rappers just mail it in....it is funny tho how we can criticize a rapper like Eminem for doing too much and every other rapper gets criticized for not doing enough or just simply falling off lol

Having a great flow doesn't make up for saying some dumb shit.
 
CoolJoe;6450449 said:
yroholla;6450174 said:
The thing with Em is that he's so focused on making the best out of his lyrics that when he has a line that's not great he still tries to make it work ,so the way he enunciates those words within whatever flow he is using makes it sound forced which makes it easy for his critics to say "see look how wack this line is" while totally ignoring him murdering the flow before and after said line....I look at it as at least he is trying where a lot of other rappers just mail it in....it is funny tho how we can criticize a rapper like Eminem for doing too much and every other rapper gets criticized for not doing enough or just simply falling off lol

Having a great flow doesn't make up for saying some dumb shit.

Agreed....just like how rappers can say some smart shit but having a mediocre to uninspired flow don't make up for it...well at least to me.....I just like to know that the rappers I enjoy listening to can at least show me their technical ability even when they run out of things to say...even the best of the best have redundant themes that their particular critics will continue to criticize them for
 
I heard this album twice on youtube before I decided to pick it up b/c I was up against the fence on buying it as I am with anything hip-hop related these days. When I first heard the singles for MMLP2 I really hated them it's the other songs like Rap God, So Much Better, Bezerk (it grew on me), Stronger Than I Was, So Far, & Love Game (could had been a better beat) that made me pick up the album. I haven't listened to the second disc yet.

Imo, MMLP2 >>>> Recovery
 
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Listened for the first time

First thought: son is rappin his ass off, but the production sucks. Too much lackluster beats
 
Baby Nova;6451879 said:
this sounds like its gonna be one of em's best albums

I hope you're not Shadyteam but I don't think so. Possibly his 4th best album. We'll tell with time.
 

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