Drake is credited twice on TLOP amongst others...

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CashmoneyDux;8772335 said:
so if It came out someone else painted Picasso's shit and he didnt do it, but he presented the art himself. Is he still going to get a pass?

What you all just said is the justification for the reason Milli Vinilli took an L. Yall arent consistent in your arguments.

Drake can get pissed on slapped up wit no repercussions & exposed as a Canadian milli vanilli hip pop r&b rapper/poser & the 6fraud still is #1 hip hop is dead nas won when he said that...
 
Its aight getting help with a hook but somebody writing your bars, ill never respect that shit. I dont care who the artist is. Its a sucka move. Like why the fuck are you even a rapper? its niggas out here hungry for this shit that write they own bars and you got niggas that dont write they own shit trying to claim they out here doing something.

Thats a slap in the face to anybody who write their own shit.

Thats just like somebody else by passing you on the way to the top in whatever it is you do for a living and then you finding out that they didn't bust they ass to do so, they had help along the way . Not just a little help but a lot of help
 
TonyDubbz;8772372 said:
Its aight getting help with a hook but somebody writing your bars, ill never respect that shit. I dont care who the artist is. Its a sucka move. Like why the fuck are you even a rapper? its niggas out here hungry for this shit that write they own bars and you got niggas that dont write they own shit trying to claim they out here doing something.

Thats a slap in the face to anybody who write their own shit.

Thats just like somebody else by passing you on the way to the top in whatever it is you do for a living and then you finding out that they didn't bust they ass to do so, they had help along the way . Not just a little help but a lot of help


Have you never been in a real work setting?

Nigga, that's life. It's called networking.
 
Shizlansky;8772377 said:
Have you never been in a real work setting?

Nigga, that's life. It's called networking.

So Drake having writers campin n tents n the ovo studio writtin his shit is normal lyrical rapper behavior?
 
If you wanna be considered a great rapper, write your own shit. Having ghostwriters is violating period. There's no rule change in 2016. This isn't pop, it's rap music. Your pen game and what you write about is everything.

Otherwise you can be in that Kanye Dr.Dre category where it's no secret that you use writers. But those two are genius producers first, so Drake doesn't fit in there either. Drakes legacy got asterisk'd. Deal with it. You can still like his music.
 
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gee757;8772381 said:
Shizlansky;8772377 said:
Have you never been in a real work setting?

Nigga, that's life. It's called networking.

So Drake having writers campin n tents n the ovo studio writtin his shit is normal lyrical rapper behavior?

do you not know how to read?

I didn't speak on that. I spoke on something else.

 
Shizlansky;8772462 said:
do you not know how to read?

I didn't speak on that. I spoke on something else.

U basically said that dude is sayin Drake is a poser 4 having writers camped n tents n the ovo studio writtin his shit.... & u just said that's networking smh

twistedthagod;8772468 said:
drake & meek act like some bitches if you ask me

At least meek ain't got niggas camped out n tents n the DC studio writtin his shit cuz that's bitch shit especially wen u claim 2 b J
 
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No surprise here. Basically confirms that Kanye has crossed over from actual rapper (albeit a different kind of one) to more of a drake, and even worse Dr. Dre type

Im starting to think his whole artistry, currently, is a facade. He grabs the new hot pop niggas nh to make hooks and he follows THEM (ass backwards) , and it seems like he got other niggas writing his shit now.

How many solo beats and/or songs is this nigga actually making anymore. And when he does, u get 'bleached asshole' type shit

Tlop is a Chance, Panda, Young Thug, and Travis Scott album
 
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Will Smith , ye & Drake r all great entertainers but they can't b looked @ as a pac, big, nas, j & etc...not when u need help writing ya raps
 
gee757;8772534 said:
Shizlansky;8772462 said:
do you not know how to read?

I didn't speak on that. I spoke on something else.

U basically said that dude is sayin Drake is a poser 4 having writers camped n tents n the ovo studio writtin his shit.... & u just said that's networking smh

twistedthagod;8772468 said:
drake & meek act like some bitches if you ask me

At least meek ain't got niggas camped out n tents n the DC studio writtin his shit cuz that's bitch shit especially wen u claim 2 b J

lmao you right but you gotta admit meek still a bitch at tha of tha day
 
Niggas been going back and forth with this for months. It's simple; to be classified as a goat in rap/hip hop, you have to write your own rhymes or be special when it comes to producing or crafting beats. The rules don't change. If goats like Jay, Outkast, Nas, etc have evidence brought forth showing they didn't write their own raps, then they lose their status as goat. Niggas trying to change the rules and bringing up hits and money made because their favorite artists wont be looked at as a hip hop legend.
 
AggieLean.;8772631 said:
Niggas been going back and forth with this for months. It's simple; to be classified as a goat in rap/hip hop, you have to write your own rhymes or be special when it comes to producing or crafting beats. The rules don't change. If goats like Jay, Outkast, Nas, etc have evidence brought forth showing they didn't write their own raps, then they lose their status as goat. Niggas trying to change the rules and bringing up hits and money made because their favorite artists wont be looked at as a hip hop legend.

Amen...Quentin Miller lost!
 
Sion;8772652 said:
It's interesting - back in the 60s & 70s Motown era a lot of artists felt the same way too about how an artist should be writing their own songs. Fast forward 40 years later and its rare to find an artist who still does. Wonder if rap will go in that direction.....

No way.
 
Being a song writer and singer was rare.

All those ppl for that era was getting help.

My cousin grandpa has Grammys on his shelf. He said so many ppl was writing for those big time artist and not getting credit for it back in the day.

A lot of stolen songs are hits we sing along to
 
Sion;8772652 said:
It's interesting - back in the 60s & 70s Motown era a lot of artists felt the same way too about how an artist should be writing their own songs. Fast forward 40 years later and its rare to find an artist who still does. Wonder if rap will go in that direction.....

Rap is the only music that's inherently competitive. It's always been about saying I rap better than you. That's why I think it can't go that way.
 
Reiterate....These rappers are not spitting a hit 16 on the corner, they are presenting art.

If it was up to some of you niggas battle rappers would be topping the charts...
 
Cutler 26 INT's LOL!;8772938 said:
Reiterate....These rappers are not spitting a hit 16 on the corner, they are presenting art.

If it was up to some of you niggas battle rappers would be topping the charts...

Under the assumption that it's their art
 

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