Dr. (Coon)Ben Carson blasts hip-hop for hurting Black communities/he also says hip hop opposes Jesus

[A Talented One]

When this topic comes up people never fail to trot out the same silly, easily-disproven arguments. There was lung cancer before there was cigarette smoking, so I guess smoking cigarettes could not possibly contribute to lung cancer.

Do people really think about what they are saying? I mean really think?

This isn't about hip hop. This is about cracking down on what white supremacy deems unapproved black behavior.

White supremacy may disapprove of a certain black behavior and that behavior might nevertheless be bad for us independently of the disapproval.

But if the cases of lung cancer DECREASED after the introduction of cigarettes that would make the whole notion that cigarettes contributed to lung cancer seem absurd right?

The crime rate in the Black community has DECREASED since the introduction of hip hop

College graduation rates have INCREASED since the introduction of hip hop

Fuck your feelings these are easily verifiable facts. You're not making as good of points as you think right now do some research.

Crime increased since the introduction of hip hop. That's a fact. Now it has in more recent years decreased again. But that's consistent with hip hop being a contributing factor. There are other factors in play obviously, and no one with any sense would say that hip hop is the only factor.

Same thing with college graduation rates.

And if the cases of lung cancer decreased after the introduction of cigarettes, that would not make the whole notion that cigarettes contributed to lung cancer seem absurd. The other factors in play might have receded in their effects just as cigarettes were becoming widely used.

*SIGH* stick to arguing your feelings bro. Facts aren't your strong point.

Homicide Rate

Dropout Rates

source :http://nces.ed.gov/pubs2012/2012006.pdf

College Attendance

Ok, I appear to stand corrected about college graduation rates. (Still, it is well known that the racial test score gap was steadily closing for decades, but either slowed down or started widely again in the late 80s.) But what you posted supports what I said about crime rates. Hip hop was around by the mid-1990s. And already very popular too.

Anyway, you have not addressed the most important point. This is that something can contribute to the increase (or decrease) of something while the general level of that thing is decreasing (or increasing). So, for example, if rates of lung cancer started to decline just as cigarettes were becoming more widely used, that would not show that cigarette smoking does not contribute positively to lung cancer.

No bruh...hip hop was around in the late 70's...and then crime started decreasing well into the mid 80's and then began to climb when crack started to spread. The crime rate decreased as hip hop initially spread and then increased as crack spread...since crack has dried up it's been falling ever since the mid 90's and is almost half of what it was in the 70's.

The crime rate did not increase following the introduction of hip hop - that was the most important point. There's no purpose of going off on a tangent now about cigarettes and lung cancer.

I would say that crack is more important for crime rates than hip hop, possibly by far, but what you are failing to mention is that hip hop in 1994 was not the same as hip hop in 1979. A lot had changed in 15 years, and not for the better. So the crime rate did increase once hip hop started getting less positive.

Anyway, the most important point is what I said: that something can contribute to the increase (or decrease) of something while the general level of that thing is decreasing (or increasing).

I applaud you for actually trying to engage my arguments (instead of seeking refuge in reactions), but I can't continue to go back and forth about this tonight. I have other things I should be doing.

 

[Meta_Conscious]

hip hop brought cocaine to the hood!

 

[R0mp]

Arming/equipping yourself with the necessary skills/tools to survive n' thrive in a hyper-competitive, cutthroat environment> These respectability/conduct politics.

“When I talk about the hip hop community, I’m talking about the aspect of modern society that pretty much dismisses anything that has to do with Jesus Christ, that’s what I’m talking about.”

 

[jono]

Your first mistake was listening to Ben Carson.

 

[zombie]

Lol @A Talented One losing his argument and all of a sudden realizing he has something to do.

 

[A Talented One]

Lol @A Talented One losing his argument and all of a sudden realizing he has something to do.

Losing the argument? How could that be?

That's not a rhetorical question. If I am right, as I surely am, that something can tend to contribute to the increase (or decrease) of something while the general level of that thing is decreasing (or increasing), then all the statistics that he posted proves nothing. They would be completely irrelevant. And since he didn't make any other argument, how could I lose the argument?

 

[Copper]

ATalentedOne is the epitome of fuck niggardry

 

[atribecalledgabi]

Can yall answer this.

Can hip hop inspire?

Yes.

 

[SixSickSins]

Hip-hop music will always be a scapegoat.

 

[rapmusic]

Never seen a guy bomb his own presidential hopes so bad before it even started. Nigga better not even waste the money.

 

[rapmusic]

People think crime is so bad because social media can blow up any crime anywhere. If you just look at crime in your city vs crime all over the country or world shit ain't that bad. Man imagine if we had Twitter in the 80s and 90s. Shit would look worse back then than it does now.

 

[TheIraq]

This nigga put Jesus and Q-Tip in the same sentence..... Smh y'all goin to hell.......

 

[mc317]

ben carson makes bryant gumble look like malcolm x

 

[vitoria]

crime been decreasing for 30 years... it was more dangerous in the 1920s than it is now... lol

hip hop killed my baby!

Don't believe that

 

[Shizlansky]

Can yall answer this.

Can hip hop inspire?

Yes.

If you believe that then you have to believe hip hop can destroy.

 

[Meta_Conscious]

crime been decreasing for 30 years... it was more dangerous in the 1920s than it is now... lol

hip hop killed my baby!

Don't believe that

Why not?

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

Life starts when the church ends... Said by the chief blasphemer of hip hop

We think the bibles a comic book.... Said by the chief emulator of the chief blasphemer

Last but not least the protege of the chief blasphemer:


God is trying to wake him up, but it's hard for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of heaven! That's what God Himself said.

But hey the enemy masquerades as an angel of light! After all his position in heaven, before the fall, was chief musician of all the angels! Music is his specialty. So he uses music and entertainment as one of his chief vehicles in getting people to deny the true and living God Jesus Christ.

But I'm not here to bash hip hop because i still like elements of it. But honestly, for me and what I must do in order to fulfill my calling, too much of it causes me to lose focus on what is important.

My Pastor always said long ago,

garbage in=garbage out.

Once I stopped filling my mind with Hip Hop music, my speech changed and my thinking changed, literally.

But hey I'm not here to tell you to stop listening to Hip Hop, I'm here to tell you

1. to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior!

2. Get out of Babylon the Great if you live in her!

3. Flee to your native country if you do!

4. Get to Jerusalem soon!

5. The Day of the Lord is near! The mighty man shall cry there bitterly!

Amen. Now if hip hop is a stumbling block for you, well you're going to have to make a radical choice here real soon, or face the consequences.

But that goes for any stumbling block that is preventing you from obeying God! The time is short! The end is nigh and only those who are still blocked by "their stumblingblock, whatever it may be" will fail to see the devestation that is looming over the horizon. Amen.

"A prudent man forseeth the evil and hides himself, but the simple pass on and are punished." proverbs 22:3

Sadly this gif represents the many people that will still be in BTG on that day, still going about there day to day lives despite hearing the warnings to get out before this happens:

 

[zombie]

The United states of America is not Babylon the great

 

[Shizlansky]

Life starts when the church ends... Said by the chief blasphemer of hip hop

We think the bibles a comic book.... Said by the chief emulator of the chief blasphemer

Last but not least the protege of the chief blasphemer:


God is trying to wake him up, but it's hard for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of heaven! That's what God Himself said.

But hey the enemy masquerades as an angel of light! After all his position in heaven, before the fall, was chief musician of all the angels! Music is his specialty. So he uses music and entertainment as one of his chief vehicles in getting people to deny the true and living God Jesus Christ.

But I'm not here to bash hip hop because i still like elements of it. But honestly, for me and what I must do in order to fulfill my calling, too much of it causes me to lose focus on what is important.

My Pastor always said long ago,

garbage in=garbage out.

Once I stopped filling my mind with Hip Hop music, my speech changed and my thinking changed, literally.

But hey I'm not here to tell you to stop listening to Hip Hop, I'm here to tell you

1. to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior!

2. Get out of Babylon the Great if you live in her!

3. Flee to your native country if you do!

4. Get to Jerusalem soon!

5. The Day of the Lord is near! The mighty man shall cry there bitterly!

Amen. Now if hip hop is a stumbling block for you, well you're going to have to make a radical choice here real soon, or face the consequences.

But that goes for any stumbling block that is preventing you from obeying God! The time is short! The end is nigh and only those who are still blocked by "their stumblingblock, whatever it may be" will fail to see the devestation that is looming over the horizon. Amen.

"A prudent man forseeth the evil and hides himself, but the simple pass on and are punished." proverbs 22:3

Sadly this gif represents the many people that will still be in BTG on that day, still going about there day to day lives despite hearing the warnings to get out before this happens:

No man will know when the will come.

So your saying you know

False prophet

You're going to hell bruh bruh for saying this.

 

[Meta_Conscious]

*stops listening to hip hop*

*quotes jay z*

seems legit...