Dr. (Coon)Ben Carson blasts hip-hop for hurting Black communities/he also says hip hop opposes Jesus

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It took me far longer than it ever should have to realize how real hip hop is. I grew up with the privilege of being mostly middle class and raised outside the hood on military bases. So I didn't know.

Even the most ignorant, nihilistic, violent of hip hop is reflecting upon a reality that is far too real for far too many African Americans. Even the ones who embellish are ARE NOT LYING, if that makes any sense.

27.4% of us live below the poverty line. Think about that for a second. We know for a fact that violent crime and decadence occurs at a vast rate among the poor. With at least 27% of African Americans classified as poor, think about how many of us grow up seeing the horrors of impoverished living as everyday occurrence?

Even worse, think about how many of us are literally one step away from indulging in that type of living themselves?

With literally generations of poverty occurring at a vast level, its extremely difficult to erase that mind state out of people who grew up in better circumstances.

With 27.4% of us in poverty, that means that while *I* grew up in middle class, it stands to logical reason that a good portion of my family, my friends, and other Blacks in communities I live in will not have. In very few numbers is there a constant of successful Blacks who have escaped all the trappings of Black poverty.

What I'm trying to say is that as self destructive as it is and as much as it enables the worse kind of living for Black Americans, modern Hip Hop is rooted in such a horrible truth about the state of African Americans.

 
Stiff;7939649 said:
Shizlansky;7939604 said:
Stiff;7939594 said:
People that are on a straight and narrow path aren't gonna hear a song and just go just start wiling out. White people were some of the biggest consumers of N.W.A. and pretty much all gangsta rap. It seemed to work out fine for them and their neighborhoods

Hmmmm maybe some other factors are at play? Nah it's definitely the music. The Black mind is feeble and can't separate reality from entertainment. The white mind is more evolved and developed. That's it.

White ppl are the worst criminals

Bruh be real. Music aside. If you're around negative shit all the time more then likely you your self will be negative.

That's why white ppl try and make sure that blacks stay with nothing bye cause it doesn't inspire greatness. Some will see past it but most will not.

I'm from the hood I seen it myself.

Absolutely without question. But when you say "around negative shit" you're talking about environment . Your environment shapes who you are without a doubt. Your environment influences your tastes, habits, and mannerisms.

This ain't as complicated as the chicken and the egg. The fucked up hood mentality came first and then the art that reflected that mentality appeared. Ratchetness ain't new despite what grandparents will have you believing.

If music is doing all of what you're saying it's doing..then tell me why the crime rate was so much higher in the 70s and early 80's amongst Blacks ? Back then music was mostly all about love and having a good time. People weren't making songs about crimes like they are now. And yet the crime rate was absolutely higher then and anybody who looks at the data can verify this.

I'm not saying it's just music. Music is a part of it though.
 
Shizlansky;7939940 said:
Stiff;7939649 said:
Shizlansky;7939604 said:
Stiff;7939594 said:
People that are on a straight and narrow path aren't gonna hear a song and just go just start wiling out. White people were some of the biggest consumers of N.W.A. and pretty much all gangsta rap. It seemed to work out fine for them and their neighborhoods

Hmmmm maybe some other factors are at play? Nah it's definitely the music. The Black mind is feeble and can't separate reality from entertainment. The white mind is more evolved and developed. That's it.

White ppl are the worst criminals

Bruh be real. Music aside. If you're around negative shit all the time more then likely you your self will be negative.

That's why white ppl try and make sure that blacks stay with nothing bye cause it doesn't inspire greatness. Some will see past it but most will not.

I'm from the hood I seen it myself.

Absolutely without question. But when you say "around negative shit" you're talking about environment . Your environment shapes who you are without a doubt. Your environment influences your tastes, habits, and mannerisms.

This ain't as complicated as the chicken and the egg. The fucked up hood mentality came first and then the art that reflected that mentality appeared. Ratchetness ain't new despite what grandparents will have you believing.

If music is doing all of what you're saying it's doing..then tell me why the crime rate was so much higher in the 70s and early 80's amongst Blacks ? Back then music was mostly all about love and having a good time. People weren't making songs about crimes like they are now. And yet the crime rate was absolutely higher then and anybody who looks at the data can verify this.

I'm not saying it's just music. Music is a part of it though.

And that's something that you can't really prove but it's what you feel. No point in debating it further so we'll just have to agree to disagree.
 
PapaDoc223;7937614 said:
All the modern gangs we know today crips,GDs,Black P Stones,Latin Kings,bloods etc were founded in the 60s and 70s when The Temptations made Just My Imagination. Plus black on black crime was worse in the 60s and 70s then it is now. This was all before straight outta compton.

Exactly, things were worse in the Black community when R&B was king lol.....Ben Carson is a fool and tool for his White masters, nothing more
 
Shizlansky;7939584 said:
Music can send positive vibes in which you would send to someone else.

And can can do it negatively


I bet if you're in a club and the song "down for my niggas" by C Murder come on its more likely to start a fight then if the song happy comes on.

Yall probably don't belive in subliminal ads either then.

that's my point tho. vibes changes...moods change...you listen to music that reflects whatever mood you're in.

we're all a product of our experiences & environments. music didn't make your environment or the situations you get into or how you choose to deal with em. if life is a movie, music is the soundtrack...literally. it accompanies the story but it doesn't make or break it.

 
A Talented One;7937013 said:
You fake, confused, lying militants kill me. You really do.

Hip hop has hurt black folks on a whole, and something is wrong with you if you can't see that.

For example, it has made many middle class kids try to imitate their poorer brethren -- by embracing a self-defeating, if perhaps adaptive in some ways, conception of blackness, one which, for example, deemphasizes academic achievement as a path to success -- thus squandering the opportunities that their parents worked so hard to secure for them. (This is why many middle class blacks actually end up worse off then their parents -- a fact that is currently a subject of investigation by many social scientists.)

Granted, some these negative affects may have been worse in the 1990s and 2000s, but that doesn't make them any less real.

Now wack this, troll, this, etc. if you want. I already told y'all that I am not on this to be most popular. I am here to speak truth.

Gladly.
 
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