Dr. (Coon)Ben Carson blasts hip-hop for hurting Black communities/he also says hip hop opposes Jesus

[zombie]

There is no way to prove that hip-hop depresses academic progression more than anything else in modern day American culture you fucking idiot.

 

[Rubato Garcia]

I'm not sure if some of you really understand, so let me break it down for you.

It can both be true that what they did to Travyon was fucked up AND that hip hop depresses black academic achievement, for example.

It can both be true that what they did to Mike Brown was fucked up AND that hip hop depresses black academic achievement.

It can both be true that employment discrimination remains rampant AND that hip hop depresses black academic achievement.

It can both be true that they burned down black Wall Street AND that hip hop depresses black academic achievement.

I hope you see the point. This dude D0wn just confusing things.

Show's about to start Don they need you in sound check

 

[A Talented One]

There is no way to prove that hip-hop depresses academic progression more than anything else in modern day American culture you fucking idiot.

What I said doesn't have anything to do with proving anything.

You idiot.

 

[Shizlansky]

Fuck him

But if music can inspire greatness and change it also can cause......

 

[zombie]

There is no way to prove that hip-hop depresses academic progression more than anything else in modern day American culture you fucking idiot.

What I said doesn't have anything to do with proving anything.

You idiot.

If you can't prove it then it's just talk with no bearing on reality.

 

[Stiff]

The fascinating part about that whole stance is this:

If you want to make the argument that rap music/hip-hop holds Black people back okay.

But let's dig deep into that. Is it all rap music that is doing it or just certain kinds of more negative rap music? Is it the underground hip-hop or is it the more commercialized hip-hop they play on the radio that tends to have less substance?

If it's the latter , who is funding those artists? Is it Black people or is it white people in suits that sign these artists, promote, and distribute them? Who owns the radio companies that set the playlists that include these songs that have no substance? Do Black people own these companies? Mostly no. And the few Black media companies that are in the game don't control the marketplace enough to go against the grain like that.

There's never any culpability for white people. Personal responsibility always stops on Black people for those types. They blame the Black artist for making it, they blame the Black consumers for listening, but they never put any attention on the WHITE people who mass produces it and makes it all happen on a massive scale. Fascinating. WHITE people decide who the faces of hip hop are to those outside the culture.

 

[kzzl]

This isn't about hip hop. This is about cracking down on what white supremacy deems unapproved black behavior.

 

[fuc_i_look_like]

Well you damn sure cant say that most mainstream rap is positive for Black folks

 

[playmaker88]

 

[ThaNubianGod]

If he specified that Southern HipHop hurts Black america....and my ears, then he would be on point. But instead he's being a stooge for White Conservatives.

 

[Meta_Conscious]

This isn't about hip hop. This is about cracking down on what white supremacy deems unapproved black behavior.

this will be overlooked...

 

[kzzl]

Well you damn sure cant say that most mainstream rap is positive for Black folks

Main stream rap has to be approved before it's given a green light to be allowed into mainstream media. If hip hop culture is being used as a scape goat, it's cause they've been setting it up to be one.

 

[texas409]

he has a point certain music is toxic to our young listeners

 

[Meta_Conscious]

remember when hip hop decided that blacks were 3/5 of a man?

or when hip hop redlined blacks so they couldn't leave bad areas?

or when hip hop decided to use the police to force blacks into revenue streams for local governments while also throwing them in jail?

me niether.

 

[JusDre313]

remember when hip hop decided that blacks were 3/5 of a man?

or when hip hop redlined blacks so they couldn't leave bad areas?

or when hip hop decided to use the police to force blacks into revenue streams for local governments while also throwing them in jail?

me niether.

I just don't understand how they don't see this...

 

[A Talented One]

remember when hip hop decided that blacks were 3/5 of a man?

or when hip hop redlined blacks so they couldn't leave bad areas?

or when hip hop decided to use the police to force blacks into revenue streams for local governments while also throwing them in jail?

me niether.

You're out D0wning D0wn now.

FOH...

 

[Meta_Conscious]

oh and fuck the Jesus angle... they gave u a religion they stole and manipulated u with it...

 

[Original_Skin]

Duck him and Cuba Gooding Jr

 

[A Talented One]

remember when hip hop decided that blacks were 3/5 of a man?

or when hip hop redlined blacks so they couldn't leave bad areas?

or when hip hop decided to use the police to force blacks into revenue streams for local governments while also throwing them in jail?

me niether.

Suppose that hip hop truly did hold blacks back. Just for the sake of the argument.

Then that is something we should look to change, whether or not whites ever become less racist by one iota, and whether or not they play a part (as I believe they do) in how hop hip became such that it holds us back.

It would also follow that when people say "hip hop holds us back," and you caricature that claim into ridiculous claims about how hip hop caused various historical instances of racism, that you would not be helping things. And that would be because you would be helping to prevent a discussion we should be having.

So the only way that this pattern of arguing of yours can be justified is if there were good reasons to believe that hip hop did not in fact hold us back.

I don't believe such reasons exist.

But the more important point is that you shouldn't presume that your opinion on this issue is so undoubtedly correct that you can blithely continue to confuse the issue -- and thereby prevent potentially helpful discussion -- when this topic comes up.

I hope this explains where I am coming from (together with what I said on the first page).

Caricaturing these arguments about hip hop is majorly counterproductive. Now please stop.

 

[Meta_Conscious]

remember when hip hop killed Dr. King?

or when hip hop hires white high school drop outs over black college grads?

or when hip hop told DEA agents not to enforce drug laws in white neighborhoods?

hip hop be wilding bruh...