Did she just ask him to apologize for a rape he was acquitted for?

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obnoxiouslyfresh;9407559 said:
Copper;9407543 said:
I've heard white people say that black people are criminals bc they're too defiant.

The two black women in here sound like they buy into that "he's an arrogant prick" bc he won't apologize for something he was acquitted of 17 years ago...

Y'all hear what y'all wanna hear and I'm not responsible for that.

How is he arrogant?
 
He knows they're gonna ask him about his rape allegations and he's handling it better than most and he seems to be prepped well for these questions.
 
Rape is one of those things, you'll never get a reasonable discussion on because people are so polarized regarding it.

Most rape victims are women, so right off the bat, most women will identify more with an accuser than the accused. If you male who would never rape a woman then the concept of rape is dismissed from your mindset. So in a case like this, men identify more with the accused because that's the position we're more likely to find ourselves in. Women don't understand that, and typically write it off as men defending rapists.

The major problem I have with a lot of women on this subject is that they want due process to be thrown away all together. They seem to feel like we should just take a woman's word for it, put no effort into getting the truth, and convict even if there isn't really enough evidence to support a conviction. And even in a case where a person went through the process and was found to be not guilty, a lot of women won't accept it and will continue to treat the man like a rapist or abuser.

I understand what @obnoxiouslyfresh and @Westie are trying to say, but they are refusing to acknowledge how wrong it is for someone to be constantly badgered for something they themselves and the justice system said they didn't do. Like why should he be expected to be empathetic or remorseful when you have people who are essentially trying to tear him down and ruin his life?
 
This thread shows the difference between men and women. Logic vs y'all females arguing with emotion. If he is innocent and felt that he was lied on no need to show any empathy
 
obnoxiouslyfresh;9407204 said:
Trillfate;9407177 said:
Im sorry if that offended you, Queen. And Im sorry that insult offended you more than a so called black reporter acting as a white supremacist mouthpiece did.

Guilty or not, he is missing an opportunity to gain a plethora of support just by speaking out about rape, taking responsibility for engaging in risky behavior and having empathy for contributing to an environment that resulted in awful consequences for those involved.

Amber rose just had a slut walk celebrating risky behavior....but you want him to apologize?

And you don't apologize to someone who you say falsely accuses you of something
 
The Lonious Monk;9407571 said:
Rape is one of those things, you'll never get a reasonable discussion on because people are so polarized regarding it.

Most rape victims are women, so right off the bat, most women will identify more with an accuser than the accused. If you male who would never rape a woman then the concept of rape is dismissed from your mindset. So in a case like this, men identify more with the accused because that's the position we're more likely to find ourselves in. Women don't understand that, and typically write it off as men defending rapists.

The major problem I have with a lot of women on this subject is that they want due process to be thrown away all together. They seem to feel like we should just take a woman's word for it, put no effort into getting the truth, and convict even if there isn't really enough evidence to support a conviction. And even in a case where a person went through the process and was found to be not guilty, a lot of women won't accept it and will continue to treat the man like a rapist or abuser.

I understand what @obnoxiouslyfresh and @Westie are trying to say, but they are refusing to acknowledge how wrong it is for someone to be constantly badgered for something they themselves and the justice system said they didn't do. Like why should he be expected to be empathetic or remorseful when you have people who are essentially trying to tear him down and ruin his life?

U also have to throw in that men's attitude about sex is different. Sets outs trains .. drunk sex bad choices happen . But a lot of woman want no accountability and wanna vilify the man or scream rape cuz they shamed.
 
obnoxiouslyfresh;9407204 said:
Trillfate;9407177 said:
Im sorry if that offended you, Queen. And Im sorry that insult offended you more than a so called black reporter acting as a white supremacist mouthpiece did.

She didn't act as a white supremacist anything. What she did was present him with an opportunity. She asked him to speak to those people who are struggling with the idea of supporting his film because of what they perceive as a lack of empathy on his part. That is the essence of his responses. Guilty or not, he is missing an opportunity to gain a plethora of support just by speaking out about rape, taking responsibility for engaging in risky behavior and having empathy for contributing to an environment that resulted in awful consequences for those involved.

He doesn't have to do any of this. And people don't have to watch his movie. In a vacuum, that sounds all well and good. But he DOES want people to see his film and those people want to hear certain things. That's where it gets complex. Unfortunately, he's not doing a good job of selling the film. He's smug and insufferable. At this point, I would rather watch Charlie Manson play Mandela.

I see what you're saying lil Ginger bunny.
 
manofmorehouse;9407346 said:
I don't excuse rape at all. Rapists deserve to be castrated. That said, it's a lot of situations women put themselves in that are dumb as fuck. Going to a niggas house after 11 and not assuming the nigga is trying to fuck is stupid. Smoking and drinking with a group of niggas and u the only chicks is stupid. I was born and raised in la. I can get shot on any day and it'll be a sad story. I increase my chances of getting shot by stepping out in all blue or all red.

But the re al issue at hand that no one wants to address and that proves a point I've been saying on here for years is women need to stop assuming that straight men and straight women can be platonic friends. That's where yall get shit fucked up. All these situations involve chick's chilling with niggas they thought were friends. I have a dick. U have a pussy. Not saying I'm raping anything because that's not my get down, but I'm not out here trying to be your friend. Understand that shit and don't put yourself in compromising situations

Unfortunately I have to agree with this
 
Capitulation is inbuilt within the pathway to what's presented as success in this country for us

If robin Roberts was the type of person to say "I'm not asking him that ", She wouldn't even be in the position to ask him that in the first place

And if nate parker refuses to bow in the manner they are trying to force him to watch him either fade away or get forced out his spot

It's a dirty game...u gotta see through a lot of this bullshit cause theirs a much larger picture than the immediate subject and the parties

Salute to nate though, he got balls...he better have his affairs in order its gon be a long winter

 
aneed123;9407578 said:
This thread shows the difference between men and women. Logic vs y'all females arguing with emotion. If he is innocent and felt that he was lied on no need to show any empathy
exactly. how do you argue sound logical points with "I can't stand to see his face for 2 hours?" Lmao, dead...

@obnoxiouslyfresh and @Westie probably saw nothing wrong with OJ having to pay millions in Civil Court for "wrongful death" of that dead Coke whore, (trashy insult) Nicole despite being acquitted of murder
 
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this woman didn't kill herself the day after dude got off. her brother said the progression was fast and then she killed herself. so she was fine all those years and then went downhill quickly in 2012? what else happened in her life? why blame her suicide on this dude? I don't really think its fair how everyone is saying its his fault that she killed herself and that he should be sorry. he is in a no win situation. im sure the nigga him wants to say we ran a train on the chick and she was embarrassed. she cried rape but it wasn't true so im not sorry at all.

I make no excuses for rapist but im going to be very careful before labeling this dude a rapist.
 
He handled this ALMOST as well as this could be handled. I would have answered her questions very directly and not skirt around them shits at all.

ROBIN: Some people feel like you aren't showing any remorse.

NATE: Remorse means showing guilt or regret for doing something wrong. I didn't do anything wrong. I was falsely accused. I was acquitted. I'm sorry that the young lady took her own life, but I'm sorry to the same extent that I would be for ANY person who takes their life. But 'remorse'? That's not something I feel because I don't feel I did anything wrong.

Also, I don't really see what RR did wrong here or how she tried to play him. She didn't ask the nigga to apologize. She asked the nigga why people don't see the kind of remorse from him that they feel they should see. As a journalist, it's her job to ask that question. And it's NP's job to know how to answer it.
 
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Again, her whole network is complicit in the elevation of a con man to presidential candidate

Who has also been accused of sexual assault

So the notion that journalistic integrity is at play here is laughable to say the least
 
D. Morgan;9407507 said:
rickmogul;9407500 said:
@leftcoastkev ....I feel that post bruh. I'd express the arrogance of a privileged white person in interviews going forward if I were him. Tell them how silly it is and obviously they don't understand the American justice system. I'd tell em let's move on or were done here. Film is already known worldwide. Y'all seen how they have mixed BLM in the commercial for the movie tho? I was like: BLM wasn't around back then. But I see what they're not trying to do but doing to stir the pot.

I haven't. Can you post a link to the commercial?

Thats some wild shit

I've been seeing it on TV, but I can't find it on-line. I like that they've added it to the trailer, because it shows that nothing has changed.

I support black lives matter, but not the group BLM
 
The perfect example of how men and women differ on this subject is encapsulated in the concept of victim blaming.

When go hard against that, and I understand why. They idea that it's ok for a chick to be raped if she's a slut is wrong. However, what a lot of females don't seem to get is that's not where most people are coming from when they bring a woman's history into the mix.

Men on the other hand understand it very well. If some party girl is accusing a guy of rape and he knows that's not what it was, he is going to absolutely want it known that she gets drunk and fucks random men every other weekend. If his life is on the line, he's not going to want to hear any of that blaming the victim the bullshit. You're not going to paint any man as a ravenous sex demon and a "slut" as a pure angel, when what the two did was par for the course for chick, and she decided to arbitrarily draw the line with that guy for some reason.
 
There's an unspoken/subconscious inability of white people and apparently black women to see the black man as a victim. Nate was a victim and nothing more yet he's not treated as such..
 
Copper;9407543 said:
I've heard white people say that black people are criminals bc they're too defiant.

The two black women in here sound like they buy into that "he's an arrogant prick" bc he won't apologize for something he was acquitted of 17 years ago...

On Male dominated site like the IC most think he is not guilty ,but on a Female dominated website like lipstickalley most think he is guilty,a rapist,an arrogant prick and very defiant.
http://www.lipstickalley.com/showth...is-TIRED-of-talking-about-his-rape-allegation
 
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