Did she just ask him to apologize for a rape he was acquitted for?

[The Lonious Monk]

You're being obtuse now...and dellusional

Out of necessity blk women have always had to work and at times were left to raise families without a man in the household, that doesn't mean there is an absence of patriarchal thinking

Not only that, this idea misogyny and sexism doesn't exist within the Blk community is laughable

Take a look at domestic abuse stats. Patriarchal beliefs of male, heterosexual dominance lie at the root of gender based violence

Regardless, not all blk men have to actively participate in blk female oppression...

Same as White women, Blk women suffer under the weight of white patrirachal authority .But Blk women have two strikes against us

That is a big reason why Blk women were the first to pursue women's rights. We didn't have the same protections as White women

That said, the problem is when blk men and women sit idle or perpetuate patriarchal thinking which mandates female subordination . It reinforces our oppression.

I also read about precolonial africa, most tribes did not view women as being equal to men which is the root of the problem...different does not mean unequal

Yes women were given roles, but rarely were they given roles of leadership

You can try to pretty up shit...but it's still shit lol

No one sad misogyny didn't exist in the black community. I said our community was not the same as the white community and the feminist rhetoric that a lot of women pushed was not necessarily applicable to the black community

And yes black women having to work and holding the sometimes primary position in the family unit doesn't equate to an absense of patriarchal thinking, but it is evidence that the absolute male dominance seen in white families at the time was not present in black families. And looking at domestic abuse stats from now means nothing. The damage has already been done and the rift is there.

And if you read the paper I linked you to, it specifically talks about cultures where women in Africa did have positions of leadership. It's not about prettying it up. Men and women both had important tasks in the community and both had power. Yes, ultimately the king was the most powerful, but just like the president in the U.S., his power was not absolute and much of the alternate power was held by women.

Look, I'm not saying black women were wrong to adopt feminist mindsets. Even after the Civil Rights movement achieved its success, black women were still subject to injustices because of a lack of woman's right. That doesn't change the fact that the mindset many of those women adopted was harmful to the black community. As you point out, women in general suffer under the white patriarchal regime, but for many that distinction was never drawn, so black men received blame to even though we were never really in a position in this country to exert that kind of power even in our own families.

 

[prime_time_willy]

Who this man married and who accused him of rape has nothing to do with each other. You people can not be that absurd. His personal life is his right and it's a contradiction to his freedom to have an issue with that. Anyway women of all races have lied about rape.

Word to my nigga Brian Banks....who was a top football prospect from HS in Georgia and had a full ride scholarship to USC to play for Pete Carroll...spent 5 years in prison for being falsely accused of rape by a lying black bitch and lost out on his football career.....


According to the national Registry of Exonerations black men are fasley accused of rape more than any other race...these black bitches be lying more than these snow chicks....all that we shall overcome togetherness shit is cool in all but in reality you have to be skeptical of all these women regardless of race....

 

[desertrain10]

You're being obtuse now...and dellusional

Out of necessity blk women have always had to work and at times were left to raise families without a man in the household, that doesn't mean there is an absence of patriarchal thinking

Not only that, this idea misogyny and sexism doesn't exist within the Blk community is laughable

Take a look at domestic abuse stats. Patriarchal beliefs of male, heterosexual dominance lie at the root of gender based violence

Regardless, not all blk men have to actively participate in blk female oppression...

Same as White women, Blk women suffer under the weight of white patrirachal authority .But Blk women have two strikes against us

That is a big reason why Blk women were the first to pursue women's rights. We didn't have the same protections as White women

That said, the problem is when blk men and women sit idle or perpetuate patriarchal thinking which mandates female subordination . It reinforces our oppression.

I also read about precolonial africa, most tribes did not view women as being equal to men which is the root of the problem...different does not mean unequal

Yes women were given roles, but rarely were they given roles of leadership

You can try to pretty up shit...but it's still shit lol

No one sad misogyny didn't exist in the black community. I said our community was not the same as the white community and the feminist rhetoric that a lot of women pushed was not necessarily applicable to the black community

And yes black women having to work and holding the sometimes primary position in the family unit doesn't equate to an absense of patriarchal thinking, but it is evidence that the absolute male dominance seen in white families at the time was not present in black families. And looking at domestic abuse stats from now means nothing. The damage has already been done and the rift is there..

misogyny, sexism, domestic violence occurs within the blk community

we agree on that to a certain extent

I'd also argue these aren't new phenomenon ...and add rape culture to that list as well

before amber rose's slut walk and 'rape culture' was introduced into popular lexicon, blk women like rose parks was championing the rights for rape victims

so what exactly is the feminist rhetoric that a lot of women pushed but was not necessarily applicable to the black community?

Look, I'm not saying black women were wrong to adopt feminist mindsets. Even after the Civil Rights movement achieved its success, black women were still subject to injustices because of a lack of woman's right. That doesn't change the fact that the mindset many of those women adopted was harmful to the black community. As you point out, women in general suffer under the white patriarchal regime, but for many that distinction was never drawn, so black men received blame to even though we were never really in a position in this country to exert that kind of power even in our own families.

most blk feminist just want recognition and for blk men to return the favor by advocating on behalf of blk women and the hardships we face today....issues such as the lack of affordable housing and child care services that is disproportionately financially crippling many of blk mothers

I see women advocating for these things, but I don't see any support from men

they either are apathetic

or they stigmatize single motherhood based on misconceptions that aren't based in reality. and rather see " women held accountable" even if that means condemning blk children to a life of poverty

which brings me to my next point....

just because blk men or blk women don't have the same power and influence as their white counterparts, doesn't mean we can't be a tool of the white patriarchal power structure and perpetuate patriarchal thinking