Cosby, Umar Johnson and the black community

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Brother_Five;8197341 said:
Where did he earn his Phd? thats a simple question...

I've heard him Umar say in numerous videos over the years that he doesn't have his Ph.D yet. Alot of people call themselves "Dr. Whatever" like Dr. Phil and Dr. Roxanne Shaunte and not have a Ph.D.

BlackWomanIsGod;8197753 said:
Umar Johnson is a school psychologist, thats it. He has his B.S and his M.S in psychology. He went to Philadelphia College of Osteopathic Medicine for his Ph.D; however, his dissertation was declined. Many people think because you have the psychologist title you are a doctor, such is not true. To be a school psychologist all you need is a masters in school psychology; however, you will not be a doctor until you have your Ph.D.

However, word on the streets in the conscious community is that a Becky (white female) will be coming forward addressing a relationship she has had with Umar Johnson.

Dr. Amos Wilson, Dr. Na'im Akbar > Umar Johnson

That's all I need to hear to know it's probably bullshit.
 
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zzombie;8197771 said:
bambu;8197734 said:
zzombie;8197523 said:
bambu;8197419 said:
zzombie;8197365 said:
Brother_Five;8197341 said:
Where did he earn his Phd? thats a simple question...

PHILADELPHIA COLLEGE OF OSTEOPATHIC MEDICINE Most likely

*most likely*

yeah most likely until he sees fit to broadcast all his information we can only go by what we have and what is reasonable, and like i said i don't know any school that keeps rejected dissertations on their website.

It's not about broadcasting info.....

Any lecturer or author is introduced by their academic background.......

This information is routine in academia....

It just seems odd to me.....

umar is not interested in being an intellectual or being a part of academia in fact he's actually against the black intellectual and so called black bourgeois. His whole movement is anti-establishment in many ways so seeking to prove his white given education is not a priority for him.

one thing that is for sure about him is that he does have at least a masters degree in clinical psychology and has worked in the philly school system.

The shit said no employment record.......

Could be his dissertation was declined and he decided on another route.......

Either way, if he's so "anti-establishment" why not say so.......

Instead of calling himself a doctor and flaunting national certifications?????

 
@zzombie Umar does not have a degree in Clinical Psychology.

Secondly, Umar is never getting the money for that school. And even if he did, as a supporter of Umar how will he maintain the school @zzombie? Because the millions he's asking for now is just to purchase it. I can tell you now as a former member of an alumni association of my private high school, Umar will need to be bringing in between 10-20 million each year if not more to maintain the school. How will Umar get the 10-20 million if not more yearly to maintain his private school?

Secondly, what will Umar do with the funds that have been donated to him for his school, which will never happen?
 
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ok a few things... if you don't have a PhD, you're not a doctor.

fuck academia tho...

another thing about the Cosby thing that black ppl need to be aware of is how its being used as yet another way to chastise black ppl... they are already cranking out think pieces about how black ppl still support him blah blah blah...

ppl outside of the alleged victims and law enforcement need to let this shit go and build off of the good that Cos did.

who gonna pick up the mantle and champion education on the scale that he did?

or should we be happy that Empire has great ratings?
 
bambu;8197798 said:
zzombie;8197771 said:
bambu;8197734 said:
zzombie;8197523 said:
bambu;8197419 said:
zzombie;8197365 said:
Brother_Five;8197341 said:
Where did he earn his Phd? thats a simple question...

PHILADELPHIA COLLEGE OF OSTEOPATHIC MEDICINE Most likely

*most likely*

yeah most likely until he sees fit to broadcast all his information we can only go by what we have and what is reasonable, and like i said i don't know any school that keeps rejected dissertations on their website.

It's not about broadcasting info.....

Any lecturer or author is introduced by their academic background.......

This information is routine in academia....

It just seems odd to me.....

umar is not interested in being an intellectual or being a part of academia in fact he's actually against the black intellectual and so called black bourgeois. His whole movement is anti-establishment in many ways so seeking to prove his white given education is not a priority for him.

one thing that is for sure about him is that he does have at least a masters degree in clinical psychology and has worked in the philly school system.

The shit said no employment record.......

Could be his dissertation was declined and he decided on another route.......

Either way, if he's so "anti-establishment" why not say so.......

Instead of calling himself a doctor and flaunting national certifications?????

He has said that he's anti-establishment you just probably have not been paying attention as for his you cannot get some of his listed certifications unless you worked in the field.
 
NapoleonBlakk;8197793 said:
Brother_Five;8197341 said:
Where did he earn his Phd? thats a simple question...

I've heard him Umar say in numerous videos over the years that he doesn't have his Ph.D yet. Alot of people call themselves "Dr. Whatever" like Dr. Phil and Dr. Roxanne Shaunte and not have a Ph.D.

BlackWomanIsGod;8197753 said:
Umar Johnson is a school psychologist, thats it. He has his B.S and his M.S in psychology. He went to Philadelphia College of Osteopathic Medicine for his Ph.D; however, his dissertation was declined. Many people think because you have the psychologist title you are a doctor, such is not true. To be a school psychologist all you need is a masters in school psychology; however, you will not be a doctor until you have your Ph.D.

However, word on the streets in the conscious community is that a Becky (white female) will be coming forward addressing a relationship she has had with Umar Johnson.

Dr. Amos Wilson, Dr. Na'im Akbar > Umar Johnson

That's all I need to hear to know it's probably bullshit.

Dr. Phil is actually a psychologist unlike Umar Johnson. He received his Ph.D in clinical psychology in 1979 at the University of North Texas. Roxanne Shaunte is not a doctor.

And everybody knows Umar been fucking with a white woman out of the Uk, she's the one who financed his trip over there.
 
BlackWomanIsGod;8197806 said:
@zzombie Umar does not have a degree in Clinical Psychology.



Secondly, Umar is never getting the money for that school. And even if he did, as a supporter of Umar how will he maintain the school @zzombie? Because the millions he's asking for now is just to purchase it. I can tell you now as a former member of an alumni association of my private high school, Umar will need to be bringing in between 10-20 million each year if not more to maintain the school. How will Umar get the 10-20 million if not more yearly to maintain his private school?

Secondly, what will Umar do with the funds that have been donated to him for his school, which will never happen?

How do you know??? he was listed in the graduate commencement booklet as having a masters in clinical psychology.

everything else you said however is a valid criticism
 
Brother_Five;8197817 said:
ok a few things... if you don't have a PhD, you're not a doctor.

fuck academia tho...

another thing about the Cosby thing that black ppl need to be aware of is how its being used as yet another way to chastise black ppl... they are already cranking out think pieces about how black ppl still support him blah blah blah...

ppl outside of the alleged victims and law enforcement need to let this shit go and build off of the good that Cos did.

who gonna pick up the mantle and champion education on the scale that he did?

or should we be happy that Empire has great ratings?

No doubt.....

I am not bashing Cosby.....

Shit, it was/is part of the culture.......

Niggas still talk about drugging women in songs that are on the radio all day.......

He did a lot for education......

It is a shame that it is going down like this for him......

However, he did chastise a group of black people & some niggas dont forget shit like that........

 
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zzombie;8197829 said:
BlackWomanIsGod;8197806 said:
@zzombie Umar does not have a degree in Clinical Psychology.



Secondly, Umar is never getting the money for that school. And even if he did, as a supporter of Umar how will he maintain the school @zzombie? Because the millions he's asking for now is just to purchase it. I can tell you now as a former member of an alumni association of my private high school, Umar will need to be bringing in between 10-20 million each year if not more to maintain the school. How will Umar get the 10-20 million if not more yearly to maintain his private school?

Secondly, what will Umar do with the funds that have been donated to him for his school, which will never happen?

How do you know??? he was listed in the graduate commencement booklet as having a masters in clinical psychology.

everything else you said however is a valid criticism

Because I'm currently enrolled in a graduate program and working on my masters in psychology... so I do know how this field operates. Secondly, a masters in clinical psychology and school psychology are totally different. You are not gonna become a school psychologist with a clinical psychology degree. Clinical psychology programs do not teach nor offer what you need to become a licensed school psychologist. The majority of school psychologist have a M.S in psychology, or an Ed.S degree in school psychology.
 
BlackWomanIsGod;8197823 said:
NapoleonBlakk;8197793 said:
Brother_Five;8197341 said:
Where did he earn his Phd? thats a simple question...

I've heard him Umar say in numerous videos over the years that he doesn't have his Ph.D yet. Alot of people call themselves "Dr. Whatever" like Dr. Phil and Dr. Roxanne Shaunte and not have a Ph.D.

BlackWomanIsGod;8197753 said:
Umar Johnson is a school psychologist, thats it. He has his B.S and his M.S in psychology. He went to Philadelphia College of Osteopathic Medicine for his Ph.D; however, his dissertation was declined. Many people think because you have the psychologist title you are a doctor, such is not true. To be a school psychologist all you need is a masters in school psychology; however, you will not be a doctor until you have your Ph.D.

However, word on the streets in the conscious community is that a Becky (white female) will be coming forward addressing a relationship she has had with Umar Johnson.

Dr. Amos Wilson, Dr. Na'im Akbar > Umar Johnson

That's all I need to hear to know it's probably bullshit.

Dr. Phil is actually a psychologist unlike Umar Johnson. He received his Ph.D in clinical psychology in 1979 at the University of North Texas. Roxanne Shaunte is not a doctor.

And everybody knows Umar been fucking with a white woman out of the Uk, she's the one who financed his trip over there.

If it's coming out of the "streets of the conscious community" I ain't buying it. Alot of them so-called conscious community are envious. They tried to do the same shit with Booker T Coleman, saying he had a white wife/girlfriend because he took a picture with some white woman a while back. SMH..
 
zzombie;8197819 said:
bambu;8197798 said:
zzombie;8197771 said:
bambu;8197734 said:
zzombie;8197523 said:
bambu;8197419 said:
zzombie;8197365 said:
Brother_Five;8197341 said:
Where did he earn his Phd? thats a simple question...

PHILADELPHIA COLLEGE OF OSTEOPATHIC MEDICINE Most likely

*most likely*

yeah most likely until he sees fit to broadcast all his information we can only go by what we have and what is reasonable, and like i said i don't know any school that keeps rejected dissertations on their website.

It's not about broadcasting info.....

Any lecturer or author is introduced by their academic background.......

This information is routine in academia....

It just seems odd to me.....

umar is not interested in being an intellectual or being a part of academia in fact he's actually against the black intellectual and so called black bourgeois. His whole movement is anti-establishment in many ways so seeking to prove his white given education is not a priority for him.

one thing that is for sure about him is that he does have at least a masters degree in clinical psychology and has worked in the philly school system.

The shit said no employment record.......

Could be his dissertation was declined and he decided on another route.......

Either way, if he's so "anti-establishment" why not say so.......

Instead of calling himself a doctor and flaunting national certifications?????

He has said that he's anti-establishment you just probably have not been paying attention as for his you cannot get some of his listed certifications unless you worked in the field.

You can get them without having worked in a school........

A lot of people get them before graduating or working.......

Newer certifications make the distinction with tiered and induction level certificates.........

 
BlackWomanIsGod;8197855 said:
zzombie;8197829 said:
BlackWomanIsGod;8197806 said:
@zzombie Umar does not have a degree in Clinical Psychology.



Secondly, Umar is never getting the money for that school. And even if he did, as a supporter of Umar how will he maintain the school @zzombie? Because the millions he's asking for now is just to purchase it. I can tell you now as a former member of an alumni association of my private high school, Umar will need to be bringing in between 10-20 million each year if not more to maintain the school. How will Umar get the 10-20 million if not more yearly to maintain his private school?

Secondly, what will Umar do with the funds that have been donated to him for his school, which will never happen?

How do you know??? he was listed in the graduate commencement booklet as having a masters in clinical psychology.

everything else you said however is a valid criticism

Because I'm currently enrolled in a graduate program and working on my masters in psychology... so I do know how this field operates. Secondly, a masters in clinical psychology and school psychology are totally different. You are not gonna become a school psychologist with a clinical psychology degree. Clinical psychology programs do not teach nor offer what you need to become a licensed school psychologist. The majority of school psychologist have a M.S in psychology, or an Ed.S degree in school psychology.

Becoming a School Psychologist in PA

INTRODUCTION

In the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, school psychologists are certified by the Pennsylvania Department of Education. Pennsylvania issues instructional certificates, educational specialist certificates, supervisory certificates, and administrative certificates. Certificates are initially issued as Level I (temporary). Level I certificates are ultimately converted to Level II (permanent) certificates when certain additional criteria (years of experience, continuing education requirements, etc.) are met. School psychology certificates fall under the category of Educational Specialist.

BASIC REQUIREMENTS

The requirements for a Level I Instructional and Educational Specialist I certificate are:

• Complete an approved education preparation program in the area requested;

• Receive the recommendation of the preparing college/university;

• Meet all PA testing requirements; and

• Meet all health and Good Moral Character requirements

In order to be certified as a school psychologist in Pennsylvania, an individual must be a United States citizen, attain a grade point average of 3.0 or higher as noted on a Bachelor’s or Master’s transcript, pass the Praxis I Pre-Professional Skills (PPST) exam, pass the School Psychology (K-12) Praxis exam (Code 0401) with a qualifying score of 150 or higher, complete an approved internship experience consisting of at least 1,000 hours, be recommended by an institution of higher education, and submit appropriate application forms and fees. The current application fee is $100 and is nonfundable.
 
Brother_Five;8197887 said:
one thing is for sure... there is too much idol worship going on... movements >>> individuals...

people should only be destroyed when they deserve it if in time to come umar is absolutely exposed for REAL FUCKERY THEN you won't hear any opposition from me. Until then i find the attacks on the man to be weak
 
Brother_Five;8197887 said:
one thing is for sure... there is too much idol worship going on... movements >>> individuals...

I tell people this all the time.......

It seems to fly out the window when discussing or people making comparisons to Hitler.........

He gets far too much credit, imo..........

How 1 cac gonna make a whole nation racist??????

@zzombie.....

That makes it worse.....

I'm in education & know that there should be a mile long paper trail on someone with his so called credentials......

 
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bambu;8197913 said:
Brother_Five;8197887 said:
one thing is for sure... there is too much idol worship going on... movements >>> individuals...

I tell people this all the time.......

It seems to fly out the window when discussing or people making comparisons to Hitler.........

He gets far too much credit, imo..........

How 1 cac gonna make a whole nation racist??????

@ zzombie.....

That makes it worse.....

I'm in education & know that there should be a mile long paper trail on someone with his so called credentials......

I do believe there is a paper trail we just don't have access to it because it's not like we can just call up a school and ask for that information they won't just hand that shit over.
 
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BlackWomanIsGod;8197753 said:
Umar Johnson is a school psychologist, thats it. He has his B.S and his M.S in psychology. He went to Philadelphia College of Osteopathic Medicine for his Ph.D; however, his dissertation was declined. Many people think because you have the psychologist title you are a doctor, such is not true. To be a school psychologist all you need is a masters in school psychology; however, you will not be a doctor until you have your Ph.D.

However, word on the streets in the conscious community is that a Becky (white female) will be coming forward addressing a relationship she has had with Umar Johnson.

Dr. Amos Wilson, Dr. Na'im Akbar > Umar Johnson

Yeah heard on facebook that he was messing with some white girl in London.
 
NapoleonBlakk;8197940 said:
On the subject of Cosby, I see Hannibal Buress has been rewarded his own show on Comedy Central...

I dont think he'll pan out... i don't know anyone who really fuck with him... he not funny enough to redeem his 'reward'...
 
you can acknowledge what Cosby means to black America, yet at the same time believe dude is guilty of something. 40 cases stretching 3 decades and you don't believe he did anything wrong? I'm not saying he drugged and raped them all. women unfortunately falsely accuse men of rape too often and this is why people hesitate to believe them. but are they all lying? you heard of the saying when there's smoke there's fire. this is a got damn inferno and yall niggas are turning a blind eye. there has to be a source.

I have a strong feeling if it was anyone BUT Bill some of yall wouldn't hesitate to at LEAST admit he could be guilty. some people are acting like there's absolutely no chance

and with cases like this, you have people personalizing it because they might've experienced something similar

like a woman who were drugged in raped, or people who have loved ones who were drugged or rape, or people who consider men drugging women to have sex with them repulsive

there's certain accusations or crimes people have no objectivity towards. and if by small chance dude is completely innocent, fucked up isn't the proper way to describe what these women did to this mans legacy

but I'm not ruling out the possibility that Cosby is guilty as fuck
 

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