Cosby, Umar Johnson and the black community

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bambu;8196886 said:
Brother_Five;8196872 said:
Why does he have to show his cv? Did he or did he not earn a phd?

It's what professional educators do......

zzombie;8196875 said:
bambu;8196856 said:
zzombie;8196818 said:
bambu;8196633 said:
Judge_Judah;8196609 said:
This is only an issue when people have a Messiah complex when dealing with brothers and sisters. I will say that Umar Johnson's situation is different than Bill Cosby's.....

Umar can bounce back from that...Bill Cosby is finished though.

But, despite their personal "demons", the work that they have done should still be praised. Stop forgetting these are humans capable of stumbling.

I dont think that Umar can bounce back without addressing his curriculum vitae.......

Or the lack thereof.....

He's already bounced back because the people who make up his support base really don't give a fuck about this so called scandal. He's right back on lecture tour doing everything he was before

Yea....

Some people will support him regardless......

It seems like there is a segment of the "conscientious" crowd that do not care about credentials.......

I am a nationally certified educator.......

If a nigga ever questioned me about my professional credentials, I would gladly pull it out......

It is public record anyways.......

If you are trying to gain trust in order to educated "black boys" or any other demographic.......

You should be prepared to show your CV........

Mr. Shoemaker has yet to do so.........

The man has already but out his educational credentials

I have only seen a link to a dissertation......

That had no acceptance certificate........

If it was even his.......

No, Jermaine Shoemaker.....

If you really want to know if the man has what he says he has why don't you call and ask him he's not hard to find
 
zzombie;8196910 said:
bambu;8196886 said:
Brother_Five;8196872 said:
Why does he have to show his cv? Did he or did he not earn a phd?

It's what professional educators do......

zzombie;8196875 said:
bambu;8196856 said:
zzombie;8196818 said:
bambu;8196633 said:
Judge_Judah;8196609 said:
This is only an issue when people have a Messiah complex when dealing with brothers and sisters. I will say that Umar Johnson's situation is different than Bill Cosby's.....

Umar can bounce back from that...Bill Cosby is finished though.

But, despite their personal "demons", the work that they have done should still be praised. Stop forgetting these are humans capable of stumbling.

I dont think that Umar can bounce back without addressing his curriculum vitae.......

Or the lack thereof.....

He's already bounced back because the people who make up his support base really don't give a fuck about this so called scandal. He's right back on lecture tour doing everything he was before

Yea....

Some people will support him regardless......

It seems like there is a segment of the "conscientious" crowd that do not care about credentials.......

I am a nationally certified educator.......

If a nigga ever questioned me about my professional credentials, I would gladly pull it out......

It is public record anyways.......

If you are trying to gain trust in order to educated "black boys" or any other demographic.......

You should be prepared to show your CV........

Mr. Shoemaker has yet to do so.........

The man has already but out his educational credentials

I have only seen a link to a dissertation......

That had no acceptance certificate........

If it was even his.......

No, Jermaine Shoemaker.....

If you really want to know if the man has what he says he has why don't you call and ask him he's not hard to find

I don't really care....

I just know how much effort it takes to acquire national certifications & earn the distinction of being called a doctor......

I don't know of any professional that would not be open about the contents of their cv.

 
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For Example......

[Cosby] dropped out of high school after he flunked the tenth grade three times. He enlisted in the Navy, where he got his GED, and then enrolled at Temple University, where he dropped out to pursue a show business career. His unfinished bachelor’s degree from Temple was eventually bestowed on him because of “life experience.” Cosby enrolled as a part-time doctoral student at the University of Massachusetts at Amherst, which awarded him the Ed.D. degree in 1977 for a dissertation on Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids.

 
blacktux;533755 said:
While people like george zimmerman and darren wilson can make hundreds of thousands from donations, even with their questionable situations. (Both guilty IMO)

you have to keep in mind that Non - hispanic white people make up roughly 60+% of the population.

thats roughly 47% more white people that can contribute to frivolous and destructive racial issues.

I agree with the brother that said we set damn near impossible standards for our people and those who represent our cultural and racial interest.

 
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Brother_Five;8197018 said:
I don't need access to his actual CV, but i would like to know where he earned his PhD...

Not once has Johnson provided information about his undergraduate degree, his Masters degree, or his Doctorate. It's not even on his own website.

There is a link floating around with a dissertation......

However, it does not appear to be accepted.........

 
If you go to page 44 in this pdf you can see that umar has a masters of science in clinical Psychology
http://digitalcommons.pcom.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1051&context=commencements

UmarJohnson-PA-Credentials-a_zpsgrphpzhg.jpg


As for his ncsp certification he choose not to renew it and i also doubt that any respected organization would but up a rejected disseratation
 
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bambu;8197419 said:
zzombie;8197365 said:
Brother_Five;8197341 said:
Where did he earn his Phd? thats a simple question...

PHILADELPHIA COLLEGE OF OSTEOPATHIC MEDICINE Most likely

*most likely*

yeah most likely until he sees fit to broadcast all his information we can only go by what we have and what is reasonable, and like i said i don't know any school that keeps rejected dissertations on their website.
 
The only reason im bringing up those two men in the same breath is because they were involved in scandals recently.

I understand their situations are different.

My whole thing is, why cant black people wait for ironclad proof to hang a man who has done so much to defy white supremacy.

While they make all the excuses in the world or just plain ignore those who do so much to promote it?

How is that encouraging black people to stand out in defiance of the system?
 
blacktux;8197688 said:
The only reason im bringing up those two men in the same breath is because they were involved in scandals recently.

I understand their situations are different.

My whole thing is, why cant black people wait for ironclad proof to hang a man who has done so much to defy white supremacy.

While they make all the excuses in the world or just plain ignore those who do so much to promote it?

How is that encouraging black people to stand out in defiance of the system?

^

The fuck is this shit? 40+ women isn't enough for you? Cosby copping to dropping pills to women isn't enough?

Why the hell would I support a rapist just because he's black? That's some faulty ass logic you're spouting around here.
 
zzombie;8197523 said:
bambu;8197419 said:
zzombie;8197365 said:
Brother_Five;8197341 said:
Where did he earn his Phd? thats a simple question...

PHILADELPHIA COLLEGE OF OSTEOPATHIC MEDICINE Most likely

*most likely*

yeah most likely until he sees fit to broadcast all his information we can only go by what we have and what is reasonable, and like i said i don't know any school that keeps rejected dissertations on their website.

It's not about broadcasting info.....

Any lecturer or author is introduced by their academic background.......

This information is routine in academia....

It just seems odd to me.....

 
Umar Johnson is a school psychologist, thats it. He has his B.S and his M.S in psychology. He went to Philadelphia College of Osteopathic Medicine for his Ph.D; however, his dissertation was declined. Many people think because you have the psychologist title you are a doctor, such is not true. To be a school psychologist all you need is a masters in school psychology; however, you will not be a doctor until you have your Ph.D.

However, word on the streets in the conscious community is that a Becky (white female) will be coming forward addressing a relationship she has had with Umar Johnson.

Dr. Amos Wilson, Dr. Na'im Akbar > Umar Johnson
 
bambu;8197734 said:
zzombie;8197523 said:
bambu;8197419 said:
zzombie;8197365 said:
Brother_Five;8197341 said:
Where did he earn his Phd? thats a simple question...

PHILADELPHIA COLLEGE OF OSTEOPATHIC MEDICINE Most likely

*most likely*

yeah most likely until he sees fit to broadcast all his information we can only go by what we have and what is reasonable, and like i said i don't know any school that keeps rejected dissertations on their website.

It's not about broadcasting info.....

Any lecturer or author is introduced by their academic background.......

This information is routine in academia....

It just seems odd to me.....

umar is not interested in being an intellectual or being a part of academia in fact he's actually against the black intellectual and so called black bourgeois. His whole movement is anti-establishment in many ways so seeking to prove his white given education is not a priority for him.

one thing that is for sure about him is that he does have at least a masters degree in clinical psychology and has worked in the philly school system.
 

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