CNN's Don Lemon goes full on Coon. O’Reilly:‘He Doesn’t Go Far Enough’ In Criticizing Black Culture"

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zombie;6106682 said:
Knives Amilli;6106655 said:
playmaker88;6106639 said:
ShiveDreadz;6106604 said:
Knives Amilli;6106552 said:
At the end of the day..........

Your either ignorant or a liar to deny the effect of White supremacy on the socioeconomics of African Americans. Ive said it before and i'll say it again: African Americans are in the most uniquely challenging circumstance of any minority on the planet. We are in a country that is not our own, yet the only homeland and heritage we have ever known. We have no foreign support system in the form of a particular culture, language, religion, or national/ethnic background (barring the second hand adoption of the monolithic Africa as the motherland as a lot of us are wont to do) and we remain in the very land that not only enslaved us, but defined our very existence here as beneath everyone else's.

However, to sit here and wait for society to right its wrongs and primarily using our energy trying to hold the system accountable is futile. No society in the history of humanity has all of a sudden realized "well shit, I just thought about it and these minorities have a fucking point here. Lets end all systems of privilege, bigotry, and supremacy!!!"

.....So while I understand the point of pointing out all the injustices, biases, and discrepancies that exist within our society; its ultimately pointless.

I hate Israel and i'm very critical of the streak of Zionism that has infiltrated US foreign policy, but I always give the Jews props. Throughout history they got shit on by EVERYONE. And what did they do? Sat back, organized, promoted education, unity, pursuing a lifelong trade in essential markets (law, finance, media, real estate, tech) and now that they have immense wealth and influence, they are able to push forward all of their collective agendas and concerns.

THAT is the model African Americans should mimic. Fuck all of this pity party shit. Yes, the world is against us. It has been for a very long time. The game will never be fair, so gain enough power and influence to change the game yourself.

The jews assimilated like a mug though, are you saying black people should take that hit now and plot to further their agenda?

Good post

Dont be a assjack. hes saying take the sense of community/ empowerment that the jews have held fast to..They didnt fully assimilate because shit.. they have JEWISH HOLIDAYS and by and large they keep their culture at the forefront.. however they don't have the burden we have..

Naw i was saying that haha

But I feel you can assimilate to move seamlessly/under the radar and at the same time hold on to your cultural/ethnic identity.

But also the question is: what do we mean by assimilate? Because some see shopping at the Gap as assimilating.

I don't think african americans have a good grasp of what their cultural/ ethnic identity is they seem to just want to be american but america often rejects them.

funny thing is to be american is to really be without any culture, unless you count being capitalistic, money hungry war machines and white Americans resent others truly assimilating to that because they want that spot all to themselves.

 
playmaker88;6106750 said:
zombie;6106734 said:
DreadlockRasta;6106697 said:
zombie;6106682 said:
Knives Amilli;6106655 said:
playmaker88;6106639 said:
ShiveDreadz;6106604 said:
Knives Amilli;6106552 said:
At the end of the day..........

Your either ignorant or a liar to deny the effect of White supremacy on the socioeconomics of African Americans. Ive said it before and i'll say it again: African Americans are in the most uniquely challenging circumstance of any minority on the planet. We are in a country that is not our own, yet the only homeland and heritage we have ever known. We have no foreign support system in the form of a particular culture, language, religion, or national/ethnic background (barring the second hand adoption of the monolithic Africa as the motherland as a lot of us are wont to do) and we remain in the very land that not only enslaved us, but defined our very existence here as beneath everyone else's.

However, to sit here and wait for society to right its wrongs and primarily using our energy trying to hold the system accountable is futile. No society in the history of humanity has all of a sudden realized "well shit, I just thought about it and these minorities have a fucking point here. Lets end all systems of privilege, bigotry, and supremacy!!!"

.....So while I understand the point of pointing out all the injustices, biases, and discrepancies that exist within our society; its ultimately pointless.

I hate Israel and i'm very critical of the streak of Zionism that has infiltrated US foreign policy, but I always give the Jews props. Throughout history they got shit on by EVERYONE. And what did they do? Sat back, organized, promoted education, unity, pursuing a lifelong trade in essential markets (law, finance, media, real estate, tech) and now that they have immense wealth and influence, they are able to push forward all of their collective agendas and concerns.

THAT is the model African Americans should mimic. Fuck all of this pity party shit. Yes, the world is against us. It has been for a very long time. The game will never be fair, so gain enough power and influence to change the game yourself.

The jews assimilated like a mug though, are you saying black people should take that hit now and plot to further their agenda?

Good post

Dont be a assjack. hes saying take the sense of community/ empowerment that the jews have held fast to..They didnt fully assimilate because shit.. they have JEWISH HOLIDAYS and by and large they keep their culture at the forefront.. however they don't have the burden we have..

Naw i was saying that haha

But I feel you can assimilate to move seamlessly/under the radar and at the same time hold on to your cultural/ethnic identity.

But also the question is: what do we mean by assimilate? Because some see shopping at the Gap as assimilating.

I don't think african americans have a good grasp of what their cultural/ ethnic identity is they seem to just want to be american but america often rejects them.

They have a culture me thinks....its within but has been suppressed to embrace an unattainable one. I find that southern blacks have a cultural heritage akin to Africans...

They do have a culture but i don't think they are always grounded in it in the same way that east indians, africans and asians are grounded.

We do its just not tethered to a place.... our identity via our struggles are a great deal of our culture and the makeshift culture we made...



every culture is a makeshift culture to be clear
..

Care to expound on that?
 
Mr.LV;6106784 said:
zombie;6106682 said:
Knives Amilli;6106655 said:
playmaker88;6106639 said:
ShiveDreadz;6106604 said:
Knives Amilli;6106552 said:
At the end of the day..........

Your either ignorant or a liar to deny the effect of White supremacy on the socioeconomics of African Americans. Ive said it before and i'll say it again: African Americans are in the most uniquely challenging circumstance of any minority on the planet. We are in a country that is not our own, yet the only homeland and heritage we have ever known. We have no foreign support system in the form of a particular culture, language, religion, or national/ethnic background (barring the second hand adoption of the monolithic Africa as the motherland as a lot of us are wont to do) and we remain in the very land that not only enslaved us, but defined our very existence here as beneath everyone else's.

However, to sit here and wait for society to right its wrongs and primarily using our energy trying to hold the system accountable is futile. No society in the history of humanity has all of a sudden realized "well shit, I just thought about it and these minorities have a fucking point here. Lets end all systems of privilege, bigotry, and supremacy!!!"

.....So while I understand the point of pointing out all the injustices, biases, and discrepancies that exist within our society; its ultimately pointless.

I hate Israel and i'm very critical of the streak of Zionism that has infiltrated US foreign policy, but I always give the Jews props. Throughout history they got shit on by EVERYONE. And what did they do? Sat back, organized, promoted education, unity, pursuing a lifelong trade in essential markets (law, finance, media, real estate, tech) and now that they have immense wealth and influence, they are able to push forward all of their collective agendas and concerns.

THAT is the model African Americans should mimic. Fuck all of this pity party shit. Yes, the world is against us. It has been for a very long time. The game will never be fair, so gain enough power and influence to change the game yourself.

The jews assimilated like a mug though, are you saying black people should take that hit now and plot to further their agenda?

Good post

Dont be a assjack. hes saying take the sense of community/ empowerment that the jews have held fast to..They didnt fully assimilate because shit.. they have JEWISH HOLIDAYS and by and large they keep their culture at the forefront.. however they don't have the burden we have..

Naw i was saying that haha

But I feel you can assimilate to move seamlessly/under the radar and at the same time hold on to your cultural/ethnic identity.

But also the question is: what do we mean by assimilate? Because some see shopping at the Gap as assimilating.

I don't think african americans have a good grasp of what their cultural/ ethnic identity is they seem to just want to be american but america often rejects them.

A lot of African Americans don't even know what part of Africa they come from.

uh ya think...

 
playmaker88;6106796 said:
Mr.LV;6106784 said:
zombie;6106682 said:
Knives Amilli;6106655 said:
playmaker88;6106639 said:
ShiveDreadz;6106604 said:
Knives Amilli;6106552 said:
At the end of the day..........

Your either ignorant or a liar to deny the effect of White supremacy on the socioeconomics of African Americans. Ive said it before and i'll say it again: African Americans are in the most uniquely challenging circumstance of any minority on the planet. We are in a country that is not our own, yet the only homeland and heritage we have ever known. We have no foreign support system in the form of a particular culture, language, religion, or national/ethnic background (barring the second hand adoption of the monolithic Africa as the motherland as a lot of us are wont to do) and we remain in the very land that not only enslaved us, but defined our very existence here as beneath everyone else's.

However, to sit here and wait for society to right its wrongs and primarily using our energy trying to hold the system accountable is futile. No society in the history of humanity has all of a sudden realized "well shit, I just thought about it and these minorities have a fucking point here. Lets end all systems of privilege, bigotry, and supremacy!!!"

.....So while I understand the point of pointing out all the injustices, biases, and discrepancies that exist within our society; its ultimately pointless.

I hate Israel and i'm very critical of the streak of Zionism that has infiltrated US foreign policy, but I always give the Jews props. Throughout history they got shit on by EVERYONE. And what did they do? Sat back, organized, promoted education, unity, pursuing a lifelong trade in essential markets (law, finance, media, real estate, tech) and now that they have immense wealth and influence, they are able to push forward all of their collective agendas and concerns.

THAT is the model African Americans should mimic. Fuck all of this pity party shit. Yes, the world is against us. It has been for a very long time. The game will never be fair, so gain enough power and influence to change the game yourself.

The jews assimilated like a mug though, are you saying black people should take that hit now and plot to further their agenda?

Good post

Dont be a assjack. hes saying take the sense of community/ empowerment that the jews have held fast to..They didnt fully assimilate because shit.. they have JEWISH HOLIDAYS and by and large they keep their culture at the forefront.. however they don't have the burden we have..

Naw i was saying that haha

But I feel you can assimilate to move seamlessly/under the radar and at the same time hold on to your cultural/ethnic identity.

But also the question is: what do we mean by assimilate? Because some see shopping at the Gap as assimilating.

I don't think african americans have a good grasp of what their cultural/ ethnic identity is they seem to just want to be american but america often rejects them.

A lot of African Americans don't even know what part of Africa they come from.

uh ya think...

I know this is a stretch but Africans can really tell where an African-American's heritage or roots may be from...the physical features are very telling and also the bulk of the trans-atlantic slaves were from west africa.

 
DreadlockRasta;6106805 said:
playmaker88;6106796 said:
Mr.LV;6106784 said:
zombie;6106682 said:
Knives Amilli;6106655 said:
playmaker88;6106639 said:
ShiveDreadz;6106604 said:
Knives Amilli;6106552 said:
At the end of the day..........

Your either ignorant or a liar to deny the effect of White supremacy on the socioeconomics of African Americans. Ive said it before and i'll say it again: African Americans are in the most uniquely challenging circumstance of any minority on the planet. We are in a country that is not our own, yet the only homeland and heritage we have ever known. We have no foreign support system in the form of a particular culture, language, religion, or national/ethnic background (barring the second hand adoption of the monolithic Africa as the motherland as a lot of us are wont to do) and we remain in the very land that not only enslaved us, but defined our very existence here as beneath everyone else's.

However, to sit here and wait for society to right its wrongs and primarily using our energy trying to hold the system accountable is futile. No society in the history of humanity has all of a sudden realized "well shit, I just thought about it and these minorities have a fucking point here. Lets end all systems of privilege, bigotry, and supremacy!!!"

.....So while I understand the point of pointing out all the injustices, biases, and discrepancies that exist within our society; its ultimately pointless.

I hate Israel and i'm very critical of the streak of Zionism that has infiltrated US foreign policy, but I always give the Jews props. Throughout history they got shit on by EVERYONE. And what did they do? Sat back, organized, promoted education, unity, pursuing a lifelong trade in essential markets (law, finance, media, real estate, tech) and now that they have immense wealth and influence, they are able to push forward all of their collective agendas and concerns.

THAT is the model African Americans should mimic. Fuck all of this pity party shit. Yes, the world is against us. It has been for a very long time. The game will never be fair, so gain enough power and influence to change the game yourself.

The jews assimilated like a mug though, are you saying black people should take that hit now and plot to further their agenda?

Good post

Dont be a assjack. hes saying take the sense of community/ empowerment that the jews have held fast to..They didnt fully assimilate because shit.. they have JEWISH HOLIDAYS and by and large they keep their culture at the forefront.. however they don't have the burden we have..

Naw i was saying that haha

But I feel you can assimilate to move seamlessly/under the radar and at the same time hold on to your cultural/ethnic identity.

But also the question is: what do we mean by assimilate? Because some see shopping at the Gap as assimilating.

I don't think african americans have a good grasp of what their cultural/ ethnic identity is they seem to just want to be american but america often rejects them.

A lot of African Americans don't even know what part of Africa they come from.

uh ya think...

I know this is a stretch but Africans can really tell where an African-American's heritage or roots may be from...the physical features are very telling and also the bulk of the trans-atlantic slaves were from west africa.

In theory...

and unless you do DNA test that generally target your makeup you cant.. really do anything but speculate/guess

 
playmaker88;6106750 said:
zombie;6106734 said:
DreadlockRasta;6106697 said:
zombie;6106682 said:
Knives Amilli;6106655 said:
playmaker88;6106639 said:
ShiveDreadz;6106604 said:
Knives Amilli;6106552 said:
At the end of the day..........

Your either ignorant or a liar to deny the effect of White supremacy on the socioeconomics of African Americans. Ive said it before and i'll say it again: African Americans are in the most uniquely challenging circumstance of any minority on the planet. We are in a country that is not our own, yet the only homeland and heritage we have ever known. We have no foreign support system in the form of a particular culture, language, religion, or national/ethnic background (barring the second hand adoption of the monolithic Africa as the motherland as a lot of us are wont to do) and we remain in the very land that not only enslaved us, but defined our very existence here as beneath everyone else's.

However, to sit here and wait for society to right its wrongs and primarily using our energy trying to hold the system accountable is futile. No society in the history of humanity has all of a sudden realized "well shit, I just thought about it and these minorities have a fucking point here. Lets end all systems of privilege, bigotry, and supremacy!!!"

.....So while I understand the point of pointing out all the injustices, biases, and discrepancies that exist within our society; its ultimately pointless.

I hate Israel and i'm very critical of the streak of Zionism that has infiltrated US foreign policy, but I always give the Jews props. Throughout history they got shit on by EVERYONE. And what did they do? Sat back, organized, promoted education, unity, pursuing a lifelong trade in essential markets (law, finance, media, real estate, tech) and now that they have immense wealth and influence, they are able to push forward all of their collective agendas and concerns.

THAT is the model African Americans should mimic. Fuck all of this pity party shit. Yes, the world is against us. It has been for a very long time. The game will never be fair, so gain enough power and influence to change the game yourself.

The jews assimilated like a mug though, are you saying black people should take that hit now and plot to further their agenda?

Good post

Dont be a assjack. hes saying take the sense of community/ empowerment that the jews have held fast to..They didnt fully assimilate because shit.. they have JEWISH HOLIDAYS and by and large they keep their culture at the forefront.. however they don't have the burden we have..

Naw i was saying that haha

But I feel you can assimilate to move seamlessly/under the radar and at the same time hold on to your cultural/ethnic identity.

But also the question is: what do we mean by assimilate? Because some see shopping at the Gap as assimilating.

I don't think african americans have a good grasp of what their cultural/ ethnic identity is they seem to just want to be american but america often rejects them.

They have a culture me thinks....its within but has been suppressed to embrace an unattainable one. I find that southern blacks have a cultural heritage akin to Africans...

They do have a culture but i don't think they are always grounded in it in the same way that east indians, africans and asians are grounded.

We do its just not tethered to a place.... our identity via our struggles are a great deal of our culture and the makeshift culture we made...

every culture is a makeshift culture to be clear..

Ok, but if african american culture is defined by the struggle of surviving slavery and then by the struggle to get rid of jim crow then what is the struggle now? is it to get rich. how do you guys see yourselves now as americans or as people struggling to overcome america.
 
Mr.LV;6106784 said:
zombie;6106682 said:
Knives Amilli;6106655 said:
playmaker88;6106639 said:
ShiveDreadz;6106604 said:
Knives Amilli;6106552 said:
At the end of the day..........

Your either ignorant or a liar to deny the effect of White supremacy on the socioeconomics of African Americans. Ive said it before and i'll say it again: African Americans are in the most uniquely challenging circumstance of any minority on the planet. We are in a country that is not our own, yet the only homeland and heritage we have ever known. We have no foreign support system in the form of a particular culture, language, religion, or national/ethnic background (barring the second hand adoption of the monolithic Africa as the motherland as a lot of us are wont to do) and we remain in the very land that not only enslaved us, but defined our very existence here as beneath everyone else's.

However, to sit here and wait for society to right its wrongs and primarily using our energy trying to hold the system accountable is futile. No society in the history of humanity has all of a sudden realized "well shit, I just thought about it and these minorities have a fucking point here. Lets end all systems of privilege, bigotry, and supremacy!!!"

.....So while I understand the point of pointing out all the injustices, biases, and discrepancies that exist within our society; its ultimately pointless.

I hate Israel and i'm very critical of the streak of Zionism that has infiltrated US foreign policy, but I always give the Jews props. Throughout history they got shit on by EVERYONE. And what did they do? Sat back, organized, promoted education, unity, pursuing a lifelong trade in essential markets (law, finance, media, real estate, tech) and now that they have immense wealth and influence, they are able to push forward all of their collective agendas and concerns.

THAT is the model African Americans should mimic. Fuck all of this pity party shit. Yes, the world is against us. It has been for a very long time. The game will never be fair, so gain enough power and influence to change the game yourself.

The jews assimilated like a mug though, are you saying black people should take that hit now and plot to further their agenda?

Good post

Dont be a assjack. hes saying take the sense of community/ empowerment that the jews have held fast to..They didnt fully assimilate because shit.. they have JEWISH HOLIDAYS and by and large they keep their culture at the forefront.. however they don't have the burden we have..

Naw i was saying that haha

But I feel you can assimilate to move seamlessly/under the radar and at the same time hold on to your cultural/ethnic identity.

But also the question is: what do we mean by assimilate? Because some see shopping at the Gap as assimilating.

I don't think african americans have a good grasp of what their cultural/ ethnic identity is they seem to just want to be american but america often rejects them.

A lot of African Americans don't even know what part of Africa they come from.

They don't need to know what exact part of africa they come from i think the general region is good enough.
 
zombie;6106823 said:
playmaker88;6106750 said:
zombie;6106734 said:
DreadlockRasta;6106697 said:
zombie;6106682 said:
Knives Amilli;6106655 said:
playmaker88;6106639 said:
ShiveDreadz;6106604 said:
Knives Amilli;6106552 said:
At the end of the day..........

Your either ignorant or a liar to deny the effect of White supremacy on the socioeconomics of African Americans. Ive said it before and i'll say it again: African Americans are in the most uniquely challenging circumstance of any minority on the planet. We are in a country that is not our own, yet the only homeland and heritage we have ever known. We have no foreign support system in the form of a particular culture, language, religion, or national/ethnic background (barring the second hand adoption of the monolithic Africa as the motherland as a lot of us are wont to do) and we remain in the very land that not only enslaved us, but defined our very existence here as beneath everyone else's.

However, to sit here and wait for society to right its wrongs and primarily using our energy trying to hold the system accountable is futile. No society in the history of humanity has all of a sudden realized "well shit, I just thought about it and these minorities have a fucking point here. Lets end all systems of privilege, bigotry, and supremacy!!!"

.....So while I understand the point of pointing out all the injustices, biases, and discrepancies that exist within our society; its ultimately pointless.

I hate Israel and i'm very critical of the streak of Zionism that has infiltrated US foreign policy, but I always give the Jews props. Throughout history they got shit on by EVERYONE. And what did they do? Sat back, organized, promoted education, unity, pursuing a lifelong trade in essential markets (law, finance, media, real estate, tech) and now that they have immense wealth and influence, they are able to push forward all of their collective agendas and concerns.

THAT is the model African Americans should mimic. Fuck all of this pity party shit. Yes, the world is against us. It has been for a very long time. The game will never be fair, so gain enough power and influence to change the game yourself.

The jews assimilated like a mug though, are you saying black people should take that hit now and plot to further their agenda?

Good post

Dont be a assjack. hes saying take the sense of community/ empowerment that the jews have held fast to..They didnt fully assimilate because shit.. they have JEWISH HOLIDAYS and by and large they keep their culture at the forefront.. however they don't have the burden we have..

Naw i was saying that haha

But I feel you can assimilate to move seamlessly/under the radar and at the same time hold on to your cultural/ethnic identity.

But also the question is: what do we mean by assimilate? Because some see shopping at the Gap as assimilating.

I don't think african americans have a good grasp of what their cultural/ ethnic identity is they seem to just want to be american but america often rejects them.

They have a culture me thinks....its within but has been suppressed to embrace an unattainable one. I find that southern blacks have a cultural heritage akin to Africans...

They do have a culture but i don't think they are always grounded in it in the same way that east indians, africans and asians are grounded.

We do its just not tethered to a place.... our identity via our struggles are a great deal of our culture and the makeshift culture we made...

every culture is a makeshift culture to be clear..

Ok, but if african american culture is defined by the struggle of surviving slavery and then by the struggle to get rid of jim crow then what is the struggle now? is it to get rich. how do you guys see yourselves now as americans or as people struggling to overcome america.

America like every other country is imperfect.. we are Americans who are African.. and i said our struggles are apart of our culture not the entirety

 
playmaker88;6106796 said:
Mr.LV;6106784 said:
zombie;6106682 said:
Knives Amilli;6106655 said:
playmaker88;6106639 said:
ShiveDreadz;6106604 said:
Knives Amilli;6106552 said:
At the end of the day..........

Your either ignorant or a liar to deny the effect of White supremacy on the socioeconomics of African Americans. Ive said it before and i'll say it again: African Americans are in the most uniquely challenging circumstance of any minority on the planet. We are in a country that is not our own, yet the only homeland and heritage we have ever known. We have no foreign support system in the form of a particular culture, language, religion, or national/ethnic background (barring the second hand adoption of the monolithic Africa as the motherland as a lot of us are wont to do) and we remain in the very land that not only enslaved us, but defined our very existence here as beneath everyone else's.

However, to sit here and wait for society to right its wrongs and primarily using our energy trying to hold the system accountable is futile. No society in the history of humanity has all of a sudden realized "well shit, I just thought about it and these minorities have a fucking point here. Lets end all systems of privilege, bigotry, and supremacy!!!"

.....So while I understand the point of pointing out all the injustices, biases, and discrepancies that exist within our society; its ultimately pointless.

I hate Israel and i'm very critical of the streak of Zionism that has infiltrated US foreign policy, but I always give the Jews props. Throughout history they got shit on by EVERYONE. And what did they do? Sat back, organized, promoted education, unity, pursuing a lifelong trade in essential markets (law, finance, media, real estate, tech) and now that they have immense wealth and influence, they are able to push forward all of their collective agendas and concerns.

THAT is the model African Americans should mimic. Fuck all of this pity party shit. Yes, the world is against us. It has been for a very long time. The game will never be fair, so gain enough power and influence to change the game yourself.

The jews assimilated like a mug though, are you saying black people should take that hit now and plot to further their agenda?

Good post

Dont be a assjack. hes saying take the sense of community/ empowerment that the jews have held fast to..They didnt fully assimilate because shit.. they have JEWISH HOLIDAYS and by and large they keep their culture at the forefront.. however they don't have the burden we have..

Naw i was saying that haha

But I feel you can assimilate to move seamlessly/under the radar and at the same time hold on to your cultural/ethnic identity.

But also the question is: what do we mean by assimilate? Because some see shopping at the Gap as assimilating.

I don't think african americans have a good grasp of what their cultural/ ethnic identity is they seem to just want to be american but america often rejects them.

A lot of African Americans don't even know what part of Africa they come from.

uh ya think...
Nah I know...

 
Stopitfive;6106814 said:
cooperation, organization >>> assimilation

I agree hence i like Acculturation better! I look at it as a venn diagram, there's a point at which we meet to interact and then we have the sum of our own interactions with our group.

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knowing your heritage has nothing to do with the right to be treated humanely in the country you were born in

Stop it
 
haute;6106859 said:
knowing your heritage has nothing to do with the right to be treated humanely in the country you were born in

Stop it

No one is saying that, it came along in the discussions.
 
haute;6106859 said:
knowing your heritage has nothing to do with the right to be treated humanely in the country you were born in

Stop it

knowing your heritage strengthens your sense of identity and that strength gives you power and only power ensures the humane treatment of a people.
 
zombie;6106877 said:
haute;6106859 said:
knowing your heritage has nothing to do with the right to be treated humanely in the country you were born in

Stop it

knowing your heritage strengthens your sense of identity and that strength gives you power and only power ensures the humane treatment of a people.

this is some afterschool special under the snapple cap shit stop it
 
playmaker88;6106827 said:
zombie;6106823 said:
playmaker88;6106750 said:
zombie;6106734 said:
DreadlockRasta;6106697 said:
zombie;6106682 said:
Knives Amilli;6106655 said:
playmaker88;6106639 said:
ShiveDreadz;6106604 said:
Knives Amilli;6106552 said:
At the end of the day..........

Your either ignorant or a liar to deny the effect of White supremacy on the socioeconomics of African Americans. Ive said it before and i'll say it again: African Americans are in the most uniquely challenging circumstance of any minority on the planet. We are in a country that is not our own, yet the only homeland and heritage we have ever known. We have no foreign support system in the form of a particular culture, language, religion, or national/ethnic background (barring the second hand adoption of the monolithic Africa as the motherland as a lot of us are wont to do) and we remain in the very land that not only enslaved us, but defined our very existence here as beneath everyone else's.

However, to sit here and wait for society to right its wrongs and primarily using our energy trying to hold the system accountable is futile. No society in the history of humanity has all of a sudden realized "well shit, I just thought about it and these minorities have a fucking point here. Lets end all systems of privilege, bigotry, and supremacy!!!"

.....So while I understand the point of pointing out all the injustices, biases, and discrepancies that exist within our society; its ultimately pointless.

I hate Israel and i'm very critical of the streak of Zionism that has infiltrated US foreign policy, but I always give the Jews props. Throughout history they got shit on by EVERYONE. And what did they do? Sat back, organized, promoted education, unity, pursuing a lifelong trade in essential markets (law, finance, media, real estate, tech) and now that they have immense wealth and influence, they are able to push forward all of their collective agendas and concerns.

THAT is the model African Americans should mimic. Fuck all of this pity party shit. Yes, the world is against us. It has been for a very long time. The game will never be fair, so gain enough power and influence to change the game yourself.

The jews assimilated like a mug though, are you saying black people should take that hit now and plot to further their agenda?

Good post

Dont be a assjack. hes saying take the sense of community/ empowerment that the jews have held fast to..They didnt fully assimilate because shit.. they have JEWISH HOLIDAYS and by and large they keep their culture at the forefront.. however they don't have the burden we have..

Naw i was saying that haha

But I feel you can assimilate to move seamlessly/under the radar and at the same time hold on to your cultural/ethnic identity.

But also the question is: what do we mean by assimilate? Because some see shopping at the Gap as assimilating.

I don't think african americans have a good grasp of what their cultural/ ethnic identity is they seem to just want to be american but america often rejects them.

They have a culture me thinks....its within but has been suppressed to embrace an unattainable one. I find that southern blacks have a cultural heritage akin to Africans...

They do have a culture but i don't think they are always grounded in it in the same way that east indians, africans and asians are grounded.

We do its just not tethered to a place.... our identity via our struggles are a great deal of our culture and the makeshift culture we made...

every culture is a makeshift culture to be clear..

Ok, but if african american culture is defined by the struggle of surviving slavery and then by the struggle to get rid of jim crow then what is the struggle now? is it to get rich. how do you guys see yourselves now as americans or as people struggling to overcome america.

America like every other country is imperfect.. we are Americans who are African.. and i said our struggles are apart of our culture not the entirety

So you see yourself as a dark skinned americans but american culture does not like dark skinned african people. Don't you think this viewpoint would create tension within a people Or are you saying that american is your nationality and not your culture.
 
naw son

Knowing which country my bloodline comes from is nice

But I don't need to know that to understand that crackers do cracker shit

And that shit is unacceptable
 
playmaker88;6106883 said:
zombie;6106877 said:
haute;6106859 said:
knowing your heritage has nothing to do with the right to be treated humanely in the country you were born in

Stop it

knowing your heritage strengthens your sense of identity and that strength gives you power and only power ensures the humane treatment of a people.

this is some afterschool special under the snapple cap shit stop it

It's the fucking truth what you think white people got where they are by not knowing who they are.
 

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