CNN's Don Lemon goes full on Coon. O’Reilly:‘He Doesn’t Go Far Enough’ In Criticizing Black Culture"

[damobb2deep]

I have been out of the loop for a minute and I see this thread has really done numbers. It appears that the general consensus around here is that Don Lemon is a coon and Bill O'Reilly is an old racist. I'm neither going to add to these assertions or deconstruct them. However, if both men were critiqued on their opinions alone I don't think any rational person could find what they said any more offensive than what is recited in some of these rap songs. Shouldn't the rappers who constantly put forth lyrics that degrade black women and perpetuate black death be vilified by us as well? Should we not call out the ratchet black women on Love and HipHop and basketball wives who breathe fresh air into old stereotypes? Should we not call out the television show Scandal, in which a black women plays the stereotypical "bed wench" for some white man? Good enough to fuck but never to marry. Are these individuals not moon shine, buck dancing "coons" as well?

I know these are all example from the entertainment industry but based on some of the responses, a lot of you aren't upset at what Don Lemon actually said. You guys upset that he said it on CNN in front a predominately white audience. A lot of us disliked it only perpetuated the negative stereotypes that many whites have about us. But considering the various depictions of us engaging in debauchery already, I doubt what he said had much effect.

I can take this point even further by pointing out the politicians who use our votes to get in office but are quick to dismiss any of our concerns when they get in office. Or what about the preachers who can build a mega million dollar church in the middle of the hood surrounded by abandon houses and buildings. What about the young bastard sons of single mothers who shoot up a neighborhood striking the innocent five year old playing on his bicycle? Are they not coons? Are the not sellouts?

Don Lemon may be a pompous coon but what is put forth by the very same people we embraced is far more harmful to our image as a people than anything he can say.

Smh...

Art is a representation of society. So instead of breaking the mirror, we need to take a look at american soceity as a whole. I can find hints of homophobia, sexism, calls for violence in rock lyrics, "white" shows, movies as well. Thats no coincidence

And not all rap music is bad. I dunno about you but the majority of blk people I know hate mainstream rap music and dont buy the music...

Also there are blks who do are making or want to make wholesome family friendly entertainment they just dont have a platform or the capital because of their skin color. And dont say there isnt an audience. Sundays Best a show on BET is one of their highest rated....

With that said for the average non-black person to hear a popular black news anchor on a respected news network to voice the same sentiments as a Bill O'Rielly is big and his actions should be condemned... further pushes this message that the blame for oppression lies with the oppressed...and the onus on us to change to ‘earn’ basic rights and privileges that are extended to other races, no matter if their shortcomings

Heres some excerpts from an article stopitfive posted that I think u should read it sums up perfectly why some blks took offense to lemons comments:

Don Lemon holds so tightly to the myth of black moral and cultural deficiency that he completely missed the absurdity of prescribing the abandonment of sagging pants and use of "the N word" as an antidote to the governmental divestment from black communities that results in failing school systems and unchecked mass incarceration. Lemon's comfort in delivering half truths illustrates the deep commitment many feel to perpetuating a single narrative on blackness without regard to facts.

Marriage patterns are tied closely to education and income. If Lemon and his cohort dared to look closely at the figures, they'd find poverty is the cause not the consequence. Respectable Black Saviors speak of the prevalence of violence and unwed mothers but never care to learn the stories behind the statistics. Instead of lashing out at white supremacy, the root of structural inequality, they incessantly reference malignant blackness because, frankly, it's easier and they'll always have an audience.

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http://www.forharriet.com/2013/07/don-lemon-and-middle-class-embrace-of.html

How r we goin to improve social equality in this country if we countinue to focus on the symptoms and not the disease

Your whole argument is based on the notion that we bear absolutely NONE of the blame for our own condition. And instead of trying to fix the problems that we have the power fix, it would be more logical to wait on the greater white establishment to invoke the social equality that we've been fighting for all these years.

Last time I checked blacks make up more than 12% of the population and have over a trillion dollars in spending power. We have the capacity to change ourselves and our communities without any help of the government.

although the bolded is true in theory its not that easy..

the money we spend as consumers is a lot... but its impossible 2 keep that money 2 ourselves... some where down the line we will have 2 cross race lines 2 do business..

Jews were able to do it to build their collective wealth. Latinos also do this. We're the only ones that feel the need to depend on our oppressors for finances, education, and answers to OUR problems

the reason that was because outside sources was willing 2 work with them ..

 

[Knives Amilli]

At the end of the day..........

Your either ignorant or a liar to deny the effect of White supremacy on the socioeconomics of African Americans. Ive said it before and i'll say it again: African Americans are in the most uniquely challenging circumstance of any minority on the planet. We are in a country that is not our own, yet the only homeland and heritage we have ever known. We have no foreign support system in the form of a particular culture, language, religion, or national/ethnic background (barring the second hand adoption of the monolithic Africa as the motherland as a lot of us are wont to do) and we remain in the very land that not only enslaved us, but defined our very existence here as beneath everyone else's.

However, to sit here and wait for society to right its wrongs and primarily using our energy trying to hold the system accountable is futile. No society in the history of humanity has all of a sudden realized "well shit, I just thought about it and these minorities have a fucking point here. Lets end all systems of privilege, bigotry, and supremacy!!!"

.....So while I understand the point of pointing out all the injustices, biases, and discrepancies that exist within our society; its ultimately pointless.

I hate Israel and i'm very critical of the streak of Zionism that has infiltrated US foreign policy, but I always give the Jews props. Throughout history they got shit on by EVERYONE. And what did they do? Sat back, organized, promoted education, unity, pursuing a lifelong trade in essential markets (law, finance, media, real estate, tech) and now that they have immense wealth and influence, they are able to push forward all of their collective agendas and concerns.

THAT is the model African Americans should mimic. Fuck all of this pity party shit. Yes, the world is against us. It has been for a very long time. The game will never be fair, so gain enough power and influence to change the game yourself.

 

[Ajackson17]

At the end of the day..........

Your either ignorant or a liar to deny the effect of White supremacy on the socioeconomics of African Americans. Ive said it before and i'll say it again: African Americans are in the most uniquely challenging circumstance of any minority on the planet. We are in a country that is not our own, yet the only homeland and heritage we have ever known. We have no foreign support system in the form of a particular culture, language, religion, or national/ethnic background (barring the second hand adoption of the monolithic Africa as the motherland as a lot of us are wont to do) and we remain in the very land that not only enslaved us, but defined our very existence here as beneath everyone else's.

However, to sit here and wait for society to right its wrongs and primarily using our energy trying to hold the system accountable is futile. No society in the history of humanity has all of a sudden realized "well shit, I just thought about it and these minorities have a fucking point here. Lets end all systems of privilege, bigotry, and supremacy!!!"

.....So while I understand the point of pointing out all the injustices, biases, and discrepancies that exist within our society; its ultimately pointless.

I hate Israel and i'm very critical of the streak of Zionism that has infiltrated US foreign policy, but I always give the Jews props. Throughout history they got shit on by EVERYONE. And what did they do? Sat back, organized, promoted education, unity, pursuing a lifelong trade in essential markets (law, finance, media, real estate, tech) and now that they have immense wealth and influence, they are able to push forward all of their collective agendas and concerns.

THAT is the model African Americans should mimic. Fuck all of this pity party shit. Yes, the world is against us. It has been for a very long time. The game will never be fair, so gain enough power and influence to change the game yourself.

Best and most realistic post.

 

[blacktux]

At the end of the day..........

Your either ignorant or a liar to deny the effect of White supremacy on the socioeconomics of African Americans. Ive said it before and i'll say it again: African Americans are in the most uniquely challenging circumstance of any minority on the planet. We are in a country that is not our own, yet the only homeland and heritage we have ever known. We have no foreign support system in the form of a particular culture, language, religion, or national/ethnic background (barring the second hand adoption of the monolithic Africa as the motherland as a lot of us are wont to do) and we remain in the very land that not only enslaved us, but defined our very existence here as beneath everyone else's.

However, to sit here and wait for society to right its wrongs and primarily using our energy trying to hold the system accountable is futile. No society in the history of humanity has all of a sudden realized "well shit, I just thought about it and these minorities have a fucking point here. Lets end all systems of privilege, bigotry, and supremacy!!!"

.....So while I understand the point of pointing out all the injustices, biases, and discrepancies that exist within our society; its ultimately pointless.

I hate Israel and i'm very critical of the streak of Zionism that has infiltrated US foreign policy, but I always give the Jews props. Throughout history they got shit on by EVERYONE. And what did they do? Sat back, organized, promoted education, unity, pursuing a lifelong trade in essential markets (law, finance, media, real estate, tech) and now that they have immense wealth and influence, they are able to push forward all of their collective agendas and concerns.

THAT is the model African Americans should mimic. Fuck all of this pity party shit. Yes, the world is against us. It has been for a very long time. The game will never be fair, so gain enough power and influence to change the game yourself.

The jews assimilated like a mug though, are you saying black people should take that hit now and plot to further their agenda?

Good post

 

[1of1]

this is still going

Can we just agree lemon is the black journalist version of lupe

And leave it there

Don't go that far

Lupe's wordplay shits on 99% of the game

 

[Knives Amilli]

At the end of the day..........

Your either ignorant or a liar to deny the effect of White supremacy on the socioeconomics of African Americans. Ive said it before and i'll say it again: African Americans are in the most uniquely challenging circumstance of any minority on the planet. We are in a country that is not our own, yet the only homeland and heritage we have ever known. We have no foreign support system in the form of a particular culture, language, religion, or national/ethnic background (barring the second hand adoption of the monolithic Africa as the motherland as a lot of us are wont to do) and we remain in the very land that not only enslaved us, but defined our very existence here as beneath everyone else's.

However, to sit here and wait for society to right its wrongs and primarily using our energy trying to hold the system accountable is futile. No society in the history of humanity has all of a sudden realized "well shit, I just thought about it and these minorities have a fucking point here. Lets end all systems of privilege, bigotry, and supremacy!!!"

.....So while I understand the point of pointing out all the injustices, biases, and discrepancies that exist within our society; its ultimately pointless.

I hate Israel and i'm very critical of the streak of Zionism that has infiltrated US foreign policy, but I always give the Jews props. Throughout history they got shit on by EVERYONE. And what did they do? Sat back, organized, promoted education, unity, pursuing a lifelong trade in essential markets (law, finance, media, real estate, tech) and now that they have immense wealth and influence, they are able to push forward all of their collective agendas and concerns.

THAT is the model African Americans should mimic. Fuck all of this pity party shit. Yes, the world is against us. It has been for a very long time. The game will never be fair, so gain enough power and influence to change the game yourself.

The jews assimilated like a mug though, are you saying black people should take that hit now and plot to further their agenda?

Good post

Yep, im saying exactly that.

Shit its not even JUST the jews; look at the successful Arabs, Red dot Indians, Asians, Africans, and Muslims in the US; those motherfuckers assimilate like hell. Get great jobs, live in White neighborhoods, send their kids to White schools where they become indistinguishable from White kids.....But they still remember where they came from, will hold onto their significant cultural roots (like yeah little Lisa Park might love Big Time Rush and wear nothing but Abercrombie, but still will speak fluent Korean at home), and still be tied into the significant cultural aspects that they face here in the US.

You gotta know when to hold em and fold em.

 

[playmaker88]

At the end of the day..........

Your either ignorant or a liar to deny the effect of White supremacy on the socioeconomics of African Americans. Ive said it before and i'll say it again: African Americans are in the most uniquely challenging circumstance of any minority on the planet. We are in a country that is not our own, yet the only homeland and heritage we have ever known. We have no foreign support system in the form of a particular culture, language, religion, or national/ethnic background (barring the second hand adoption of the monolithic Africa as the motherland as a lot of us are wont to do) and we remain in the very land that not only enslaved us, but defined our very existence here as beneath everyone else's.

However, to sit here and wait for society to right its wrongs and primarily using our energy trying to hold the system accountable is futile. No society in the history of humanity has all of a sudden realized "well shit, I just thought about it and these minorities have a fucking point here. Lets end all systems of privilege, bigotry, and supremacy!!!"

.....So while I understand the point of pointing out all the injustices, biases, and discrepancies that exist within our society; its ultimately pointless.

I hate Israel and i'm very critical of the streak of Zionism that has infiltrated US foreign policy, but I always give the Jews props. Throughout history they got shit on by EVERYONE. And what did they do? Sat back, organized, promoted education, unity, pursuing a lifelong trade in essential markets (law, finance, media, real estate, tech) and now that they have immense wealth and influence, they are able to push forward all of their collective agendas and concerns.

THAT is the model African Americans should mimic. Fuck all of this pity party shit. Yes, the world is against us. It has been for a very long time. The game will never be fair, so gain enough power and influence to change the game yourself.

The jews assimilated like a mug though, are you saying black people should take that hit now and plot to further their agenda?

Good post

I thine we should take the sense of community/ empowerment that the jews have held fast to..They didnt fully assimilate because shit.. they have JEWISH HOLIDAYS and by and large they keep their culture at the forefront.. however they don't have the burden we have..

 

[Knives Amilli]

At the end of the day..........

Your either ignorant or a liar to deny the effect of White supremacy on the socioeconomics of African Americans. Ive said it before and i'll say it again: African Americans are in the most uniquely challenging circumstance of any minority on the planet. We are in a country that is not our own, yet the only homeland and heritage we have ever known. We have no foreign support system in the form of a particular culture, language, religion, or national/ethnic background (barring the second hand adoption of the monolithic Africa as the motherland as a lot of us are wont to do) and we remain in the very land that not only enslaved us, but defined our very existence here as beneath everyone else's.

However, to sit here and wait for society to right its wrongs and primarily using our energy trying to hold the system accountable is futile. No society in the history of humanity has all of a sudden realized "well shit, I just thought about it and these minorities have a fucking point here. Lets end all systems of privilege, bigotry, and supremacy!!!"

.....So while I understand the point of pointing out all the injustices, biases, and discrepancies that exist within our society; its ultimately pointless.

I hate Israel and i'm very critical of the streak of Zionism that has infiltrated US foreign policy, but I always give the Jews props. Throughout history they got shit on by EVERYONE. And what did they do? Sat back, organized, promoted education, unity, pursuing a lifelong trade in essential markets (law, finance, media, real estate, tech) and now that they have immense wealth and influence, they are able to push forward all of their collective agendas and concerns.

THAT is the model African Americans should mimic. Fuck all of this pity party shit. Yes, the world is against us. It has been for a very long time. The game will never be fair, so gain enough power and influence to change the game yourself.

The jews assimilated like a mug though, are you saying black people should take that hit now and plot to further their agenda?

Good post

Dont be a assjack. hes saying take the sense of community/ empowerment that the jews have held fast to..They didnt fully assimilate because shit.. they have JEWISH HOLIDAYS and by and large they keep their culture at the forefront.. however they don't have the burden we have..

Naw i was saying that haha

But I feel you can assimilate to move seamlessly/under the radar and at the same time hold on to your cultural/ethnic identity.

But also the question is: what do we mean by assimilate? Because some see shopping at the Gap as assimilating.

 

[playmaker88]

At the end of the day..........

Your either ignorant or a liar to deny the effect of White supremacy on the socioeconomics of African Americans. Ive said it before and i'll say it again: African Americans are in the most uniquely challenging circumstance of any minority on the planet. We are in a country that is not our own, yet the only homeland and heritage we have ever known. We have no foreign support system in the form of a particular culture, language, religion, or national/ethnic background (barring the second hand adoption of the monolithic Africa as the motherland as a lot of us are wont to do) and we remain in the very land that not only enslaved us, but defined our very existence here as beneath everyone else's.

However, to sit here and wait for society to right its wrongs and primarily using our energy trying to hold the system accountable is futile. No society in the history of humanity has all of a sudden realized "well shit, I just thought about it and these minorities have a fucking point here. Lets end all systems of privilege, bigotry, and supremacy!!!"

.....So while I understand the point of pointing out all the injustices, biases, and discrepancies that exist within our society; its ultimately pointless.

I hate Israel and i'm very critical of the streak of Zionism that has infiltrated US foreign policy, but I always give the Jews props. Throughout history they got shit on by EVERYONE. And what did they do? Sat back, organized, promoted education, unity, pursuing a lifelong trade in essential markets (law, finance, media, real estate, tech) and now that they have immense wealth and influence, they are able to push forward all of their collective agendas and concerns.

THAT is the model African Americans should mimic. Fuck all of this pity party shit. Yes, the world is against us. It has been for a very long time. The game will never be fair, so gain enough power and influence to change the game yourself.

The jews assimilated like a mug though, are you saying black people should take that hit now and plot to further their agenda?

Good post

Dont be a assjack. hes saying take the sense of community/ empowerment that the jews have held fast to..They didnt fully assimilate because shit.. they have JEWISH HOLIDAYS and by and large they keep their culture at the forefront.. however they don't have the burden we have..

Naw i was saying that haha

But I feel you can assimilate to move seamlessly/under the radar and at the same time hold on to your cultural/ethnic identity.

Lol well i edited.. ..

and we cant "ASSIMILATE"

we are from the same prevailing culture/ country we are more alike than different and we largely share the same values.. So what else is there..we cant wash of this blackness and "ASSIMILATION" does nothing to change their perception of us.. I dont want to be equal i want to be accepted or at the least not burdened by their idiotic ideas about us

 

[Rasta.]

At the end of the day..........

Your either ignorant or a liar to deny the effect of White supremacy on the socioeconomics of African Americans. Ive said it before and i'll say it again: African Americans are in the most uniquely challenging circumstance of any minority on the planet. We are in a country that is not our own, yet the only homeland and heritage we have ever known. We have no foreign support system in the form of a particular culture, language, religion, or national/ethnic background (barring the second hand adoption of the monolithic Africa as the motherland as a lot of us are wont to do) and we remain in the very land that not only enslaved us, but defined our very existence here as beneath everyone else's.

However, to sit here and wait for society to right its wrongs and primarily using our energy trying to hold the system accountable is futile. No society in the history of humanity has all of a sudden realized "well shit, I just thought about it and these minorities have a fucking point here. Lets end all systems of privilege, bigotry, and supremacy!!!"

.....So while I understand the point of pointing out all the injustices, biases, and discrepancies that exist within our society; its ultimately pointless.

I hate Israel and i'm very critical of the streak of Zionism that has infiltrated US foreign policy, but I always give the Jews props. Throughout history they got shit on by EVERYONE. And what did they do? Sat back, organized, promoted education, unity, pursuing a lifelong trade in essential markets (law, finance, media, real estate, tech) and now that they have immense wealth and influence, they are able to push forward all of their collective agendas and concerns.

THAT is the model African Americans should mimic. Fuck all of this pity party shit. Yes, the world is against us. It has been for a very long time. The game will never be fair, so gain enough power and influence to change the game yourself.

The jews assimilated like a mug though, are you saying black people should take that hit now and plot to further their agenda?

Good post

Yep, im saying exactly that.

Shit its not even JUST the jews; look at the successful Arabs, Red dot Indians, Asians, Africans, and Muslims in the US; those motherfuckers assimilate like hell. Get great jobs, live in White neighborhoods, send their kids to White schools where they become indistinguishable from White kids.....But they still remember where they came from, will hold onto their significant cultural roots (like yeah little Lisa Park might love Big Time Rush and wear nothing but Abercrombie, but still will speak fluent Korean at home), and still be tied into the significant cultural aspects that they face here in the US.

You gotta know when to hold em and fold em.

Maybe, just maybe the kids on here reading this can comprehend what you're trying to say cos i've been unsuccessful thus far. As much as i live around white folks, the transition into my heritage is effortless when i meet my folks. Heck even the doctors at the unit speak my language to me and vice versa, other Africans and we just switch to broken english.

 

[Rasta.]

At the end of the day..........

Your either ignorant or a liar to deny the effect of White supremacy on the socioeconomics of African Americans. Ive said it before and i'll say it again: African Americans are in the most uniquely challenging circumstance of any minority on the planet. We are in a country that is not our own, yet the only homeland and heritage we have ever known. We have no foreign support system in the form of a particular culture, language, religion, or national/ethnic background (barring the second hand adoption of the monolithic Africa as the motherland as a lot of us are wont to do) and we remain in the very land that not only enslaved us, but defined our very existence here as beneath everyone else's.

However, to sit here and wait for society to right its wrongs and primarily using our energy trying to hold the system accountable is futile. No society in the history of humanity has all of a sudden realized "well shit, I just thought about it and these minorities have a fucking point here. Lets end all systems of privilege, bigotry, and supremacy!!!"

.....So while I understand the point of pointing out all the injustices, biases, and discrepancies that exist within our society; its ultimately pointless.

I hate Israel and i'm very critical of the streak of Zionism that has infiltrated US foreign policy, but I always give the Jews props. Throughout history they got shit on by EVERYONE. And what did they do? Sat back, organized, promoted education, unity, pursuing a lifelong trade in essential markets (law, finance, media, real estate, tech) and now that they have immense wealth and influence, they are able to push forward all of their collective agendas and concerns.

THAT is the model African Americans should mimic. Fuck all of this pity party shit. Yes, the world is against us. It has been for a very long time. The game will never be fair, so gain enough power and influence to change the game yourself.

The jews assimilated like a mug though, are you saying black people should take that hit now and plot to further their agenda?

Good post

Dont be a assjack. hes saying take the sense of community/ empowerment that the jews have held fast to..They didnt fully assimilate because shit.. they have JEWISH HOLIDAYS and by and large they keep their culture at the forefront.. however they don't have the burden we have..

Naw i was saying that haha

But I feel you can assimilate to move seamlessly/under the radar and at the same time hold on to your cultural/ethnic identity.

Lol well i edited.. ..

and we cant "ASSIMILATE"

we are from the same prevailing culture/ country we are more alike than different and we largely share the same values.. So what else is there..we cant wash of this blackness and "ASSIMILATION" does nothing to change their perception of us.. I dont want to be equal i want to be accepted or at the least not burdened by their idiotic ideas about us

This is a false statement brah

 

[zombie]

At the end of the day..........

Your either ignorant or a liar to deny the effect of White supremacy on the socioeconomics of African Americans. Ive said it before and i'll say it again: African Americans are in the most uniquely challenging circumstance of any minority on the planet. We are in a country that is not our own, yet the only homeland and heritage we have ever known. We have no foreign support system in the form of a particular culture, language, religion, or national/ethnic background (barring the second hand adoption of the monolithic Africa as the motherland as a lot of us are wont to do) and we remain in the very land that not only enslaved us, but defined our very existence here as beneath everyone else's.

However, to sit here and wait for society to right its wrongs and primarily using our energy trying to hold the system accountable is futile. No society in the history of humanity has all of a sudden realized "well shit, I just thought about it and these minorities have a fucking point here. Lets end all systems of privilege, bigotry, and supremacy!!!"

.....So while I understand the point of pointing out all the injustices, biases, and discrepancies that exist within our society; its ultimately pointless.

I hate Israel and i'm very critical of the streak of Zionism that has infiltrated US foreign policy, but I always give the Jews props. Throughout history they got shit on by EVERYONE. And what did they do? Sat back, organized, promoted education, unity, pursuing a lifelong trade in essential markets (law, finance, media, real estate, tech) and now that they have immense wealth and influence, they are able to push forward all of their collective agendas and concerns.

THAT is the model African Americans should mimic. Fuck all of this pity party shit. Yes, the world is against us. It has been for a very long time. The game will never be fair, so gain enough power and influence to change the game yourself.

The jews assimilated like a mug though, are you saying black people should take that hit now and plot to further their agenda?

Good post

Dont be a assjack. hes saying take the sense of community/ empowerment that the jews have held fast to..They didnt fully assimilate because shit.. they have JEWISH HOLIDAYS and by and large they keep their culture at the forefront.. however they don't have the burden we have..

Naw i was saying that haha

But I feel you can assimilate to move seamlessly/under the radar and at the same time hold on to your cultural/ethnic identity.

But also the question is: what do we mean by assimilate? Because some see shopping at the Gap as assimilating.

I don't think african americans have a good grasp of what their cultural/ ethnic identity is they seem to just want to be american but america often rejects them.

 

[playmaker88]

At the end of the day..........

Your either ignorant or a liar to deny the effect of White supremacy on the socioeconomics of African Americans. Ive said it before and i'll say it again: African Americans are in the most uniquely challenging circumstance of any minority on the planet. We are in a country that is not our own, yet the only homeland and heritage we have ever known. We have no foreign support system in the form of a particular culture, language, religion, or national/ethnic background (barring the second hand adoption of the monolithic Africa as the motherland as a lot of us are wont to do) and we remain in the very land that not only enslaved us, but defined our very existence here as beneath everyone else's.

However, to sit here and wait for society to right its wrongs and primarily using our energy trying to hold the system accountable is futile. No society in the history of humanity has all of a sudden realized "well shit, I just thought about it and these minorities have a fucking point here. Lets end all systems of privilege, bigotry, and supremacy!!!"

.....So while I understand the point of pointing out all the injustices, biases, and discrepancies that exist within our society; its ultimately pointless.

I hate Israel and i'm very critical of the streak of Zionism that has infiltrated US foreign policy, but I always give the Jews props. Throughout history they got shit on by EVERYONE. And what did they do? Sat back, organized, promoted education, unity, pursuing a lifelong trade in essential markets (law, finance, media, real estate, tech) and now that they have immense wealth and influence, they are able to push forward all of their collective agendas and concerns.

THAT is the model African Americans should mimic. Fuck all of this pity party shit. Yes, the world is against us. It has been for a very long time. The game will never be fair, so gain enough power and influence to change the game yourself.

The jews assimilated like a mug though, are you saying black people should take that hit now and plot to further their agenda?

Good post

Dont be a assjack. hes saying take the sense of community/ empowerment that the jews have held fast to..They didnt fully assimilate because shit.. they have JEWISH HOLIDAYS and by and large they keep their culture at the forefront.. however they don't have the burden we have..

Naw i was saying that haha

But I feel you can assimilate to move seamlessly/under the radar and at the same time hold on to your cultural/ethnic identity.

Lol well i edited.. ..

and we cant "ASSIMILATE"

we are from the same prevailing culture/ country we are more alike than different and we largely share the same values.. So what else is there..we cant wash of this blackness and "ASSIMILATION" does nothing to change their perception of us.. I dont want to be equal i want to be accepted or at the least not burdened by their idiotic ideas about us

This is a false statement brah

.... nevermind carry on

 

[Rasta.]

At the end of the day..........

Your either ignorant or a liar to deny the effect of White supremacy on the socioeconomics of African Americans. Ive said it before and i'll say it again: African Americans are in the most uniquely challenging circumstance of any minority on the planet. We are in a country that is not our own, yet the only homeland and heritage we have ever known. We have no foreign support system in the form of a particular culture, language, religion, or national/ethnic background (barring the second hand adoption of the monolithic Africa as the motherland as a lot of us are wont to do) and we remain in the very land that not only enslaved us, but defined our very existence here as beneath everyone else's.

However, to sit here and wait for society to right its wrongs and primarily using our energy trying to hold the system accountable is futile. No society in the history of humanity has all of a sudden realized "well shit, I just thought about it and these minorities have a fucking point here. Lets end all systems of privilege, bigotry, and supremacy!!!"

.....So while I understand the point of pointing out all the injustices, biases, and discrepancies that exist within our society; its ultimately pointless.

I hate Israel and i'm very critical of the streak of Zionism that has infiltrated US foreign policy, but I always give the Jews props. Throughout history they got shit on by EVERYONE. And what did they do? Sat back, organized, promoted education, unity, pursuing a lifelong trade in essential markets (law, finance, media, real estate, tech) and now that they have immense wealth and influence, they are able to push forward all of their collective agendas and concerns.

THAT is the model African Americans should mimic. Fuck all of this pity party shit. Yes, the world is against us. It has been for a very long time. The game will never be fair, so gain enough power and influence to change the game yourself.

The jews assimilated like a mug though, are you saying black people should take that hit now and plot to further their agenda?

Good post

Dont be a assjack. hes saying take the sense of community/ empowerment that the jews have held fast to..They didnt fully assimilate because shit.. they have JEWISH HOLIDAYS and by and large they keep their culture at the forefront.. however they don't have the burden we have..

Naw i was saying that haha

But I feel you can assimilate to move seamlessly/under the radar and at the same time hold on to your cultural/ethnic identity.

But also the question is: what do we mean by assimilate? Because some see shopping at the Gap as assimilating.

I don't think african americans have a good grasp of what their cultural/ ethnic identity is they seem to just want to be american but america often rejects them.

They have a culture me thinks....its within but has been suppressed to embrace an unattainable one. I find that southern blacks have a cultural heritage akin to Africans...

 

[playmaker88]

........................

 

[zombie]

At the end of the day..........

Your either ignorant or a liar to deny the effect of White supremacy on the socioeconomics of African Americans. Ive said it before and i'll say it again: African Americans are in the most uniquely challenging circumstance of any minority on the planet. We are in a country that is not our own, yet the only homeland and heritage we have ever known. We have no foreign support system in the form of a particular culture, language, religion, or national/ethnic background (barring the second hand adoption of the monolithic Africa as the motherland as a lot of us are wont to do) and we remain in the very land that not only enslaved us, but defined our very existence here as beneath everyone else's.

However, to sit here and wait for society to right its wrongs and primarily using our energy trying to hold the system accountable is futile. No society in the history of humanity has all of a sudden realized "well shit, I just thought about it and these minorities have a fucking point here. Lets end all systems of privilege, bigotry, and supremacy!!!"

.....So while I understand the point of pointing out all the injustices, biases, and discrepancies that exist within our society; its ultimately pointless.

I hate Israel and i'm very critical of the streak of Zionism that has infiltrated US foreign policy, but I always give the Jews props. Throughout history they got shit on by EVERYONE. And what did they do? Sat back, organized, promoted education, unity, pursuing a lifelong trade in essential markets (law, finance, media, real estate, tech) and now that they have immense wealth and influence, they are able to push forward all of their collective agendas and concerns.

THAT is the model African Americans should mimic. Fuck all of this pity party shit. Yes, the world is against us. It has been for a very long time. The game will never be fair, so gain enough power and influence to change the game yourself.

The jews assimilated like a mug though, are you saying black people should take that hit now and plot to further their agenda?

Good post

Dont be a assjack. hes saying take the sense of community/ empowerment that the jews have held fast to..They didnt fully assimilate because shit.. they have JEWISH HOLIDAYS and by and large they keep their culture at the forefront.. however they don't have the burden we have..

Naw i was saying that haha

But I feel you can assimilate to move seamlessly/under the radar and at the same time hold on to your cultural/ethnic identity.

But also the question is: what do we mean by assimilate? Because some see shopping at the Gap as assimilating.

I don't think african americans have a good grasp of what their cultural/ ethnic identity is they seem to just want to be american but america often rejects them.

They have a culture me thinks....its within but has been suppressed to embrace an unattainable one. I find that southern blacks have a cultural heritage akin to Africans...

They do have a culture but i don't think they are always grounded in it in the same way that east indians, africans and asians are grounded. The contrast between different cultures is clear for most people for african americans it's kind of murky.

 

[Knives Amilli]

At the end of the day..........

Your either ignorant or a liar to deny the effect of White supremacy on the socioeconomics of African Americans. Ive said it before and i'll say it again: African Americans are in the most uniquely challenging circumstance of any minority on the planet. We are in a country that is not our own, yet the only homeland and heritage we have ever known. We have no foreign support system in the form of a particular culture, language, religion, or national/ethnic background (barring the second hand adoption of the monolithic Africa as the motherland as a lot of us are wont to do) and we remain in the very land that not only enslaved us, but defined our very existence here as beneath everyone else's.

However, to sit here and wait for society to right its wrongs and primarily using our energy trying to hold the system accountable is futile. No society in the history of humanity has all of a sudden realized "well shit, I just thought about it and these minorities have a fucking point here. Lets end all systems of privilege, bigotry, and supremacy!!!"

.....So while I understand the point of pointing out all the injustices, biases, and discrepancies that exist within our society; its ultimately pointless.

I hate Israel and i'm very critical of the streak of Zionism that has infiltrated US foreign policy, but I always give the Jews props. Throughout history they got shit on by EVERYONE. And what did they do? Sat back, organized, promoted education, unity, pursuing a lifelong trade in essential markets (law, finance, media, real estate, tech) and now that they have immense wealth and influence, they are able to push forward all of their collective agendas and concerns.

THAT is the model African Americans should mimic. Fuck all of this pity party shit. Yes, the world is against us. It has been for a very long time. The game will never be fair, so gain enough power and influence to change the game yourself.

The jews assimilated like a mug though, are you saying black people should take that hit now and plot to further their agenda?

Good post

Dont be a assjack. hes saying take the sense of community/ empowerment that the jews have held fast to..They didnt fully assimilate because shit.. they have JEWISH HOLIDAYS and by and large they keep their culture at the forefront.. however they don't have the burden we have..

Naw i was saying that haha

But I feel you can assimilate to move seamlessly/under the radar and at the same time hold on to your cultural/ethnic identity.

Lol well i edited.. ..

and we cant "ASSIMILATE"

we are from the same prevailing culture/ country we are more alike than different and we largely share the same values.. So what else is there..we cant wash of this blackness and "ASSIMILATION" does nothing to change their perception of us.. I dont want to be equal i want to be accepted or at the least not burdened by their idiotic ideas about us

That is gospel. After my first post in this thread, I was thinking of ways that AAs can broaden our wealth and influence in similar aspects to the Jews, Latinos, etc....Food service came to mind as (and Im speaking from where I live in Louisville), food carts/trailers serving authentic and fresh Mexican food are really popular right now and I thought well thats a start.......

Until it dawned on me that a lot of the food that Black people cook, WHITE PEOPLE i.e. larger society cooks as well. And the more soul food elements (like greens, pig feet, corn bread, etc.) are actually looked down upon by a good portion of society. Mexican and other ethnic foods still have that perception of "exotic foreign food" and the tastes are still new to a lot of society....Its literally a microcosm for race relation. Blacks are relatively "old news" here in the states.....whereas other ethnicities and races are "new" and "different"....thus making it more difficult to assimilate because you don't even know what you have to change to "fit in" so to speak.

 

[King_sorrow]

Grade A post^.

But what really pisses me off is that as of today blacks have(i think not sure) one of the highest buying power ratios in america today, but we still have no footholds in any large corporations or businesses aside from the entertainment industry. We have our most influential people promoting a "fuck other niggas, get money mentality" which may work for other races, but given our unique circumstances only serve to hold us back and prevent any acquisitions of true power. It also only aids in perpetuating the vast division between us, this all begins with our family structure though its been whats holding us back for generations and will continue to unless we change it.

 

[playmaker88]

At the end of the day..........

Your either ignorant or a liar to deny the effect of White supremacy on the socioeconomics of African Americans. Ive said it before and i'll say it again: African Americans are in the most uniquely challenging circumstance of any minority on the planet. We are in a country that is not our own, yet the only homeland and heritage we have ever known. We have no foreign support system in the form of a particular culture, language, religion, or national/ethnic background (barring the second hand adoption of the monolithic Africa as the motherland as a lot of us are wont to do) and we remain in the very land that not only enslaved us, but defined our very existence here as beneath everyone else's.

However, to sit here and wait for society to right its wrongs and primarily using our energy trying to hold the system accountable is futile. No society in the history of humanity has all of a sudden realized "well shit, I just thought about it and these minorities have a fucking point here. Lets end all systems of privilege, bigotry, and supremacy!!!"

.....So while I understand the point of pointing out all the injustices, biases, and discrepancies that exist within our society; its ultimately pointless.

I hate Israel and i'm very critical of the streak of Zionism that has infiltrated US foreign policy, but I always give the Jews props. Throughout history they got shit on by EVERYONE. And what did they do? Sat back, organized, promoted education, unity, pursuing a lifelong trade in essential markets (law, finance, media, real estate, tech) and now that they have immense wealth and influence, they are able to push forward all of their collective agendas and concerns.

THAT is the model African Americans should mimic. Fuck all of this pity party shit. Yes, the world is against us. It has been for a very long time. The game will never be fair, so gain enough power and influence to change the game yourself.

The jews assimilated like a mug though, are you saying black people should take that hit now and plot to further their agenda?

Good post

Dont be a assjack. hes saying take the sense of community/ empowerment that the jews have held fast to..They didnt fully assimilate because shit.. they have JEWISH HOLIDAYS and by and large they keep their culture at the forefront.. however they don't have the burden we have..

Naw i was saying that haha

But I feel you can assimilate to move seamlessly/under the radar and at the same time hold on to your cultural/ethnic identity.

But also the question is: what do we mean by assimilate? Because some see shopping at the Gap as assimilating.

I don't think african americans have a good grasp of what their cultural/ ethnic identity is they seem to just want to be american but america often rejects them.

They have a culture me thinks....its within but has been suppressed to embrace an unattainable one. I find that southern blacks have a cultural heritage akin to Africans...

They do have a culture but i don't think they are always grounded in it in the same way that east indians, africans and asians are grounded.

We do its just not tethered to a place.... our identity via our struggles are a great deal of our culture and the makeshift culture we made...

every culture is a makeshift culture to be clear..

 

[Mr.LV]

At the end of the day..........

Your either ignorant or a liar to deny the effect of White supremacy on the socioeconomics of African Americans. Ive said it before and i'll say it again: African Americans are in the most uniquely challenging circumstance of any minority on the planet. We are in a country that is not our own, yet the only homeland and heritage we have ever known. We have no foreign support system in the form of a particular culture, language, religion, or national/ethnic background (barring the second hand adoption of the monolithic Africa as the motherland as a lot of us are wont to do) and we remain in the very land that not only enslaved us, but defined our very existence here as beneath everyone else's.

However, to sit here and wait for society to right its wrongs and primarily using our energy trying to hold the system accountable is futile. No society in the history of humanity has all of a sudden realized "well shit, I just thought about it and these minorities have a fucking point here. Lets end all systems of privilege, bigotry, and supremacy!!!"

.....So while I understand the point of pointing out all the injustices, biases, and discrepancies that exist within our society; its ultimately pointless.

I hate Israel and i'm very critical of the streak of Zionism that has infiltrated US foreign policy, but I always give the Jews props. Throughout history they got shit on by EVERYONE. And what did they do? Sat back, organized, promoted education, unity, pursuing a lifelong trade in essential markets (law, finance, media, real estate, tech) and now that they have immense wealth and influence, they are able to push forward all of their collective agendas and concerns.

THAT is the model African Americans should mimic. Fuck all of this pity party shit. Yes, the world is against us. It has been for a very long time. The game will never be fair, so gain enough power and influence to change the game yourself.

The jews assimilated like a mug though, are you saying black people should take that hit now and plot to further their agenda?

Good post

Dont be a assjack. hes saying take the sense of community/ empowerment that the jews have held fast to..They didnt fully assimilate because shit.. they have JEWISH HOLIDAYS and by and large they keep their culture at the forefront.. however they don't have the burden we have..

Naw i was saying that haha

But I feel you can assimilate to move seamlessly/under the radar and at the same time hold on to your cultural/ethnic identity.

But also the question is: what do we mean by assimilate? Because some see shopping at the Gap as assimilating.

I don't think african americans have a good grasp of what their cultural/ ethnic identity is they seem to just want to be american but america often rejects them.

A lot of African Americans don't even know what part of Africa they come from.