Better rapper Vol. 32: Ghostface or Jay-Z

[usmarin3]

Still no one has posted a Ghostface quotable yet, thought so.

 

[Meta_Conscious]

Still no one has posted a Ghostface quotable yet, thought so.

"horny hot fuck from out the mountains..."

"fucked u on a chair with 3 legs"

"he had a favorite song... I miss u... written by Aaron Hall"...

"the fuck u mean is he dead?"

 

[buttuh_b]

You called me a hater at the end of the post I just responded to. How many Ghostface Killah albums have you purchased?

Outside of supreme and fishscale none then there's 36 chambers now I'm not out here acting like his biggest stan but unless there's this major difference between those and what I haven't heard ima go with jay

Word Ghost ain't all that impressive. He's a decent run of the mill rapper. Anyone who picks him couldn't do it for any other reason than envy for the man with a lot of money and popularity. The IC just hates the goat Jay. He should be winning 95% to 5% instead of 60 40. It's a conspiracy.

 

[DOPEdweebz]

You called me a hater at the end of the post I just responded to. How many Ghostface Killah albums have you purchased?

Outside of supreme and fishscale none then there's 36 chambers now I'm not out here acting like his biggest stan but unless there's this major difference between those and what I haven't heard ima go with jay

Word Ghost ain't all that impressive. He's a decent run of the mill rapper. Anyone who picks him couldn't do it for any other reason than envy for the man with a lot of money and popularity. The IC just hates the goat Jay. He should be winning 95% to 5% instead of 60 40. It's a conspiracy.

Shoutout to real niggas that actually voted. #respect

 

[drsnappple]

Still no one has posted a Ghostface quotable yet, thought so.

"DIDN'T MOMMY TELL YALL NIGGAS TO WEAR CLEAN UNDIES!!!!"

 

[yroholla]

I fuck with Ghostface too....but "Scooby snack Jurassic plastic gas booby trap"?....this nigga on dust forreal b

 

[#1hiphopjunki3]

@Buttah_B

I liked the way you broke down the categories for each Emcee. That was some G.O.A.T. Shit, i damn near agreed with the whole breakdown

 

[ericb4prez]

This nigga said Ghostface got the better wordplay, I'm out.

But.... I'll leave this here, first.

Have you even listened to Ghost's catalog? You're a known Warrior.

I'm not a known "warrior", you're a known idiot, though.

And I've heard Ghost's shit.

Its a difference between the spitters and niggas like Jay.

Jay rarely gets off into that zone like he did in roc boyz but he's capable of it.

Ghost got whole albums where he's just going In.

Ghost put in a lot of work, we can go track for track and Im sure when Jay runs out of shit we will still be posting ghost tracks.

All that diamond, versace shit he was doing in the late 90s dont even compare to what Ghost was doing lyrically in that same period of time.

Jay is a better entrepreneur and that is all.

What are you talking about?

Jay dropped RD, Vol.1-3 during the late 90's, lmfao@ That not comparing.


Damn, you fadin em', Hov.

A bruh.

Ob4cl

Iron man

wu-tang forever

and Supreme Clientele

Vs

RD

Vol 1-3

Explain...this should be interesting

Supreme Clientele came out in 2000, bruh.

WU-Tang Forever is a group project, bruh.

Iron Man and OB4CL are dope though.

And why the fuck are you talking about projects, when we're talking about pure rapping.

And finally, Jay was going bar for bar with BIG, but he wouldn't have been able to go bar for bar with Ghost? Are you niggas serious? Lmao.

you niggaz cape so hard you dont even make sense

 

[rap mysterio]

Going with jay-z, all ghost talks about is guns, drugs and strawberry kiwis. It's cool, but jigga is top ten n ghost is maybe top 20

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Going with jay-z, all ghost talks about is guns, drugs and strawberry kiwis. It's cool, but jigga is top ten n ghost is maybe top 20

I don't see how anyone can be a Jay supporter but knock Ghost for having limited subject matter. We can go song for song from each of their albums and Ghost's subject matter is way more varied than Jay's.

I got Jay in my top 10 and I'll admit he's probably the most influential person the game has ever had. I do think he's overrated as an overall MC though.

 

[dalyricalbandit]

Ghost that dude but half the time son says shit even he has trouble knowing what he said

 

[Kalecrunch]

Let's go Lp for LP based on critic ratings. On meta critic.com which compiles music critic ratings for each LP . Jay gotem. Then I can shut this thread down.

 

[A$AP_A$TON]

I avoided this thread for as long as I could.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Let's go Lp for LP based on critic ratings. On meta critic.com which compiles music critic ratings for each LP . Jay gotem. Then I can shut this thread down.

lol This has to be the stupidest suggestion for settling this debate ever, but...

Jay-Z

MCHG: Critic - 59 User -5.7

BP3: Critic - 65 User - 7.2

AG: Critic - 83 User - 8.4

KC: Critic - 67 User6.9

BA: Critic - 84 User - 8.7

BP2: Critic - 64 User - 7.7

BP: Critic - 64 User - 8.8

Avg - Critic - 73 User - 7.6

Ghostface

12RtD: Critic - 78 User - 7.8

AK: Critic - 84 User - 8

G:WoP: Critic - 68 User - 8.4

BDR: Critic - 77 User - 8.3

MF: Critic - 77 User - 8.9

FS: Critic - 88 User - 8.8

PT: Critic - 84 User - 8

Avg: Critic 77 User - 8.3

So uhhhh does this mean Ghostface wins by a mile?

 

[CoolJoe]

This nigga said Ghostface got the better wordplay, I'm out.

But.... I'll leave this here, first.

Have you even listened to Ghost's catalog? You're a known Warrior.

I'm not a known "warrior", you're a known idiot, though.

And I've heard Ghost's shit.

Its a difference between the spitters and niggas like Jay.

Jay rarely gets off into that zone like he did in roc boyz but he's capable of it.

Ghost got whole albums where he's just going In.

Ghost put in a lot of work, we can go track for track and Im sure when Jay runs out of shit we will still be posting ghost tracks.

All that diamond, versace shit he was doing in the late 90s dont even compare to what Ghost was doing lyrically in that same period of time.

Jay is a better entrepreneur and that is all.

What are you talking about?

Jay dropped RD, Vol.1-3 during the late 90's, lmfao@ That not comparing.


Damn, you fadin em', Hov.

A bruh.

Ob4cl

Iron man

wu-tang forever

and Supreme Clientele

Vs

RD

Vol 1-3

Explain...this should be interesting

Supreme Clientele came out in 2000, bruh.

WU-Tang Forever is a group project, bruh.

Iron Man and OB4CL are dope though.

And why the fuck are you talking about projects, when we're talking about pure rapping.

And finally, Jay was going bar for bar with BIG, but he wouldn't have been able to go bar for bar with Ghost? Are you niggas serious? Lmao.

you niggaz cape so hard you dont even make sense

Tell me the errors in my logic.

 

[CoolJoe]

You called me a hater at the end of the post I just responded to. How many Ghostface Killah albums have you purchased?

Outside of supreme and fishscale none then there's 36 chambers now I'm not out here acting like his biggest stan but unless there's this major difference between those and what I haven't heard ima go with jay

Word Ghost ain't all that impressive. He's a decent run of the mill rapper. Anyone who picks him couldn't do it for any other reason than envy for the man with a lot of money and popularity. The IC just hates the goat Jay. He should be winning 95% to 5% instead of 60 40. It's a conspiracy.

Real nigga shit.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

You called me a hater at the end of the post I just responded to. How many Ghostface Killah albums have you purchased?

Outside of supreme and fishscale none then there's 36 chambers now I'm not out here acting like his biggest stan but unless there's this major difference between those and what I haven't heard ima go with jay

Word Ghost ain't all that impressive. He's a decent run of the mill rapper. Anyone who picks him couldn't do it for any other reason than envy for the man with a lot of money and popularity. The IC just hates the goat Jay. He should be winning 95% to 5% instead of 60 40. It's a conspiracy.

Real nigga shit.

Well "Nigga Shit" is often dumb as fuck, so I agree, that is some real Nigga Shit.

 

[A$AP_A$TON]

Ghost is dope but he's not even better than Method Man.

 

[Like Water]

Jay is legendary. That can't be taken from him. But Jay's decline over his last couple of albums is hard to ignore.

Ghost hasn't had that type of decline. He still sounds hungry. The lyricism and artistry of 12RTD>>>MCHG.

This is only a microcosm of my argument, but I don't feel like typing titangraphs atm.

 

[t_m_a_c_f_a_n73088]

I would try and state a case why jay is better but seeing as how this is the IC aka the capital of jay z hate it wouldn't make a difference so I'm not even gonna try and waste my time

*Kanye shrug*

Why does it always have to be hate? I voted for jay but anyone who said ghost can make a good argument. One of the most slept on of all time

Ghost is dope but he's not even better than Method Man.

FOH you can't be serious