Better rapper Vol. 32: Ghostface or Jay-Z

[The Lonious Monk]

Bodying a track doesn't mean you have to be ultra aggressive, that's clearly your own personal interpretation of it, cause Jay's bodied shit while rapping in a smooth manner, e.g.

Here's something more aggressive

Seriously? This is top notch Mcing?

"I got my Mojo back baby o behave" WORD?

Now Blueprint 2 is weak? Lmao....how Jay say it....

I always thought Blueprint 2 was weak also. That chorus is annoying as shit. Call it hating if you want, but some people simply don't think it's a good song.

Alright, you hate the hook, what was weak about the verses Jay spit?

I don't know. It was just beating a dead horse to me. The battle was finished at that point and he just had to keep it going. It was just more of him talking about himself. He didn't even have any of his typical clever lines in the song.

I rather hear some shit like this than Jay Big Upping himself for the 500th time.

what Jay stans do has nothing to do with me.

I'm just pointing out the fact that the Wu Tang run the IC.

This poll is just a poll.

Shit doesn't make any sense man. If the Wu ran the IC like that, how did Ghost lose?

 

[buttuh_b]

Duke is a idiot. Vol. 3 and Supreme dropped within 30 days of eachother and he thinks they weren't in the same time period. And the Wade shit just proves how delusional you are in life. Lupe and Jay do have great wordplay but you're only considering one aspect of wordplay, which is why I say your view is narrow. It's not a clear victory. What's your thoughts on Ghost's wordplay. All I hear you talking about is Jay.

 

[SunflowaSeeds]

My two fav rappers of all time (when Jay-Z was actually spitting). If Jay never fell off like he did, I don't know if I'd be able to call this one.

 

[Kwan Dai]

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It hurts niggas so much Shawn Corey is the GOAT.

Naw it really doesn't. It's just sad that you ultra herbs cannot fathom some one saying otherwise.

I could fathom it, I made a statement that I was feeling you don't have to agree. You caught feelings and proceeded to name calling lol.

Are you serious?

Dog, just look at the thread the cats in here making a case for Jay getting trolls, spams, feelings reactions etc. you would think we was trying to compare Lil Zane to Ghost. Simple no signs can't suffice? nope feelings gotta spew.

I don't have not one negative thing to say about Ghost (which is why I haven't). Dude one of my favorite Mc's ever. But imo he ain't nicer than Jay that's how I feel it is what it is.

So that led to me saying it hurts niggas that Jay is widely considered one of the goats and in a lot of cases the Goat. I ain't said shit that y'all actions ain't justifying fam.

*now give me feelings, trolls, spam, and abuses*

Well, I aint one of them. I suggest you respond to them. Don't run that feelings BS by me and your post explicitly display your feelings. So, you aren't even debating with well thought out opinion. You are debating with your feelings.

 

[rip.dilla]

*now give me feelings, trolls, spam, and abuses*

Duly noted and given ..

You niggas like to complain about reactions rather than discuss and argue like men ..

LOL

 

[ItzGravitation]

Bodying a track doesn't mean you have to be ultra aggressive, that's clearly your own personal interpretation of it, cause Jay's bodied shit while rapping in a smooth manner, e.g.

Here's something more aggressive

Seriously? This is top notch Mcing?

"I got my Mojo back baby o behave" WORD?

Now Blueprint 2 is weak? Lmao....how Jay say it....

I always thought Blueprint 2 was weak also. That chorus is annoying as shit. Call it hating if you want, but some people simply don't think it's a good song.

Alright, you hate the hook, what was weak about the verses Jay spit?

I don't know. It was just beating a dead horse to me. The battle was finished at that point and he just had to keep it going. It was just more of him talking about himself. He didn't even have any of his typical clever lines in the song.

I rather hear some shit like this than Jay Big Upping himself for the 500th time.

what Jay stans do has nothing to do with me.

I'm just pointing out the fact that the Wu Tang run the IC.

This poll is just a poll.

Shit doesn't make any sense man. If the Wu ran the IC like that, how did Ghost lose?

you tell me.

Jay hardly ever wins on the IC.

I'm amazed dude is ahead in the polls

 

[ItzGravitation]

Bodying a track doesn't mean you have to be ultra aggressive, that's clearly your own personal interpretation of it, cause Jay's bodied shit while rapping in a smooth manner, e.g.

Here's something more aggressive

Seriously? This is top notch Mcing?

"I got my Mojo back baby o behave" WORD?

Now Blueprint 2 is weak? Lmao....how Jay say it....

I always thought Blueprint 2 was weak also. That chorus is annoying as shit. Call it hating if you want, but some people simply don't think it's a good song.

Alright, you hate the hook, what was weak about the verses Jay spit?

I don't know. It was just beating a dead horse to me. The battle was finished at that point and he just had to keep it going. It was just more of him talking about himself. He didn't even have any of his typical clever lines in the song.

I rather hear some shit like this than Jay Big Upping himself for the 500th time.

what Jay stans do has nothing to do with me.

I'm just pointing out the fact that the Wu Tang run the IC.

This poll is just a poll.

Shit doesn't make any sense man. If the Wu ran the IC like that, how did Ghost lose?

you tell me.

Jay hardly ever wins on the IC.

I'm amazed dude is ahead in the polls

you had dudes saying ODB is better than Boosie and shit.

ODB is a lyricists

if that dont prove the Wu run the IC/ majority of the IC stans for the Wu, i dont know what will

 

[Kwan Dai]

.

It hurts niggas so much Shawn Corey is the GOAT.

Naw it really doesn't. It's just sad that you ultra herbs cannot fathom some one saying otherwise.

I could fathom it, I made a statement that I was feeling you don't have to agree. You caught feelings and proceeded to name calling lol.

Are you serious?

Dog, just look at the thread the cats in here making a case for Jay getting trolls, spams, feelings reactions etc. you would think we was trying to compare Lil Zane to Ghost. Simple no signs can't suffice? nope feelings gotta spew.

I don't have not one negative thing to say about Ghost (which is why I haven't). Dude one of my favorite Mc's ever. But imo he ain't nicer than Jay that's how I feel it is what it is.

So that led to me saying it hurts niggas that Jay is widely considered one of the goats and in a lot of cases the Goat. I ain't said shit that y'all actions ain't justifying fam.

*now give me feelings, trolls, spam, and abuses*

realest post in this thread

its the IC though. Might as well be the Wu C

Like I said, there are to many people that cannot fathom some one rating another MC above Jay. When in FACT there are so many that should easily be. But it takes an ear, and break from the ball hugging.

 

[CoolJoe]

Bodying a track doesn't mean you have to be ultra aggressive, that's clearly your own personal interpretation of it, cause Jay's bodied shit while rapping in a smooth manner, e.g.

Here's something more aggressive

Seriously? This is top notch Mcing?

"I got my Mojo back baby o behave" WORD?

Now Blueprint 2 is weak? Lmao....how Jay say it....

I always thought Blueprint 2 was weak also. That chorus is annoying as shit. Call it hating if you want, but some people simply don't think it's a good song.

Alright, you hate the hook, what was weak about the verses Jay spit?

I don't know. It was just beating a dead horse to me. The battle was finished at that point and he just had to keep it going. It was just more of him talking about himself. He didn't even have any of his typical clever lines in the song.



I rather hear some shit like this than Jay Big Upping himself for the 500th time.

what Jay stans do has nothing to do with me.

I'm just pointing out the fact that the Wu Tang run the IC.

This poll is just a poll.

Shit doesn't make any sense man. If the Wu ran the IC like that, how did Ghost lose?

You street dreaming, all y'all niggas living Annotatethrough me

I gave you life when niggas was forgetting you emcee

I'm a legend, you should take a picture with me

You should be happy to be in my presence, I should charge you a fee

I'm Big Dog, Glenn Rob, listen God you a flea

And the little homey Jungle is a garden to me

Lmao, you're just hating at this point, you said the song was weak, cause it's "Beating a dead horse", so if he would have released it a year earlier it would have been alright? Shit makes no sense at all. You must hate "Last Real Nigga Alive" too then.

 

[CoolJoe]

I'm giving CoolJoe abuse reactions because he is acting like Ghost is a mid-tier MC. But if you want some too it's my pleasure.

I want that Wade quote....

 

[BrilliantRapscallion]

I dunno, Supreme Cliente and Iron Man are pretty much on par with most of Jay-Z's eariler works. I'll give the edge to Ghost, just because he's more inclined lyrically than Jay.

 

[ItzGravitation]

.

It hurts niggas so much Shawn Corey is the GOAT.

Naw it really doesn't. It's just sad that you ultra herbs cannot fathom some one saying otherwise.

I could fathom it, I made a statement that I was feeling you don't have to agree. You caught feelings and proceeded to name calling lol.

Are you serious?

Dog, just look at the thread the cats in here making a case for Jay getting trolls, spams, feelings reactions etc. you would think we was trying to compare Lil Zane to Ghost. Simple no signs can't suffice? nope feelings gotta spew.

I don't have not one negative thing to say about Ghost (which is why I haven't). Dude one of my favorite Mc's ever. But imo he ain't nicer than Jay that's how I feel it is what it is.

So that led to me saying it hurts niggas that Jay is widely considered one of the goats and in a lot of cases the Goat. I ain't said shit that y'all actions ain't justifying fam.

*now give me feelings, trolls, spam, and abuses*

realest post in this thread

its the IC though. Might as well be the Wu C

Like I said, there are to many people that cannot fathom some one rating another MC above Jay. When in FACT there are so many that should easily be. But it takes an ear, and break from the ball hugging.

i used to think Jay could do no wrong.

i know better now.

I still think he's better than Ghost though

 

[CoolJoe]

Duke is a idiot. Vol. 3 and Supreme dropped within 30 days of eachother and he thinks they weren't in the same time period. And the Wade shit just proves how delusional you are in life. Lupe and Jay do have great wordplay but you're only considering one aspect of wordplay, which is why I say your view is narrow. It's not a clear victory. What's your thoughts on Ghost's wordplay. All I hear you talking about is Jay.

Nigga, show me when I said Wade was still a top 5 player.

Ghost's wordplay is alright, and my view on wordplay is not narrow.

Eminem at his best had amazing wordplay and he wasn't even big on metaphors and what have you.

 

[Kwan Dai]

This nigga said Ghostface got the better wordplay, I'm out.

But.... I'll leave this here, first.

Have you even listened to Ghost's catalog? You're a known Warrior.

I'm not a known "warrior", you're a known idiot, though.

And I've heard Ghost's shit.

Its a difference between the spitters and niggas like Jay.

Jay rarely gets off into that zone like he did in roc boyz but he's capable of it.

Ghost got whole albums where he's just going In.

Ghost put in a lot of work, we can go track for track and Im sure when Jay runs out of shit we will still be posting ghost tracks.

All that diamond, versace shit he was doing in the late 90s dont even compare to what Ghost was doing lyrically in that same period of time.

Jay is a better entrepreneur and that is all.

What are you talking about?

Jay dropped RD, Vol.1-3 during the late 90's, lmfao@ That not comparing.


Damn, you fadin em', Hov.

A bruh.

Ob4cl

Iron man

wu-tang forever

and Supreme Clientele

Vs

RD

Vol 1-3

Explain...this should be interesting

Supreme Clientele came out in 2000, bruh.

WU-Tang Forever is a group project, bruh.

Iron Man and OB4CL are dope though.

And why the fuck are you talking about projects, when we're talking about pure rapping.

And finally, Jay was going bar for bar with BIG, but he wouldn't have been able to go bar for bar with Ghost? Are you niggas serious? Lmao.

Supreme Clientelle dropped Jan.25 2000

vol 3 dropped dec.28 1999

The fuck are you on?

Yeah it was a group project but we were comparing what they did in a time period so its all fair game.

Im talking about what was done ON those projects.

Jay was nothing like Big. I hate that comparison.

One dropped in the 90's, one didn't, end of story.

There was never a point to just name projects at all....

And I never said Jay was anything like BIG, I said Jay did just as well as BIG on the three joints they had together, the fuck are you talking about?

Cool Joe seems to know a lot about Jay but not much about Ghost. But this the same guy who still thinks D Wade is a top 5 player. Duke is delusional. You weren't able to rebut anything in my post. Originality and emotion don't count for nothing?? I said wordplay can go either way depending on preference but I hope you're not implying Ghost don't have crazy wordplay because if you are then your scope on what wordplay is is extremely narrow.

Jay and Lupe are probably the best niggas at wordplay that I've ever heard, which is why I find it a clear victory for Jay.

But let's for a second act like me saying Wade is a top 5 player in the league still, which I didn't, what the fuck does that have to do with my ability to debate about Hip-Hop?

Now if you said I was a Lil Wayne stan, then maybe you could cast a dark cloud over my ability to debate this rap shit, but I'm not cut from that cloth, although you are.

Well then that's a problem in and of itself. This totally speaks to your inability to debate Hip Hop. When there are dudes, like Big Pun, Pharoahe, Rockness Monster, G-Rap, Black thought, Joell, Rakim, Ghost, etc. that have blessed Hip Hop. You are a Hip Hop bystander. Move along.

 

[buttuh_b]

"Ghost's wordplay is alright"...

Ok bye.

 

[CoolJoe]

This nigga said Ghostface got the better wordplay, I'm out.

But.... I'll leave this here, first.

Have you even listened to Ghost's catalog? You're a known Warrior.

I'm not a known "warrior", you're a known idiot, though.

And I've heard Ghost's shit.

Its a difference between the spitters and niggas like Jay.

Jay rarely gets off into that zone like he did in roc boyz but he's capable of it.

Ghost got whole albums where he's just going In.

Ghost put in a lot of work, we can go track for track and Im sure when Jay runs out of shit we will still be posting ghost tracks.

All that diamond, versace shit he was doing in the late 90s dont even compare to what Ghost was doing lyrically in that same period of time.

Jay is a better entrepreneur and that is all.

What are you talking about?

Jay dropped RD, Vol.1-3 during the late 90's, lmfao@ That not comparing.


Damn, you fadin em', Hov.

A bruh.

Ob4cl

Iron man

wu-tang forever

and Supreme Clientele

Vs

RD

Vol 1-3

Explain...this should be interesting

Supreme Clientele came out in 2000, bruh.

WU-Tang Forever is a group project, bruh.

Iron Man and OB4CL are dope though.

And why the fuck are you talking about projects, when we're talking about pure rapping.

And finally, Jay was going bar for bar with BIG, but he wouldn't have been able to go bar for bar with Ghost? Are you niggas serious? Lmao.

Supreme Clientelle dropped Jan.25 2000

vol 3 dropped dec.28 1999

The fuck are you on?

Yeah it was a group project but we were comparing what they did in a time period so its all fair game.

Im talking about what was done ON those projects.

Jay was nothing like Big. I hate that comparison.

One dropped in the 90's, one didn't, end of story.

There was never a point to just name projects at all....

And I never said Jay was anything like BIG, I said Jay did just as well as BIG on the three joints they had together, the fuck are you talking about?

Cool Joe seems to know a lot about Jay but not much about Ghost. But this the same guy who still thinks D Wade is a top 5 player. Duke is delusional. You weren't able to rebut anything in my post. Originality and emotion don't count for nothing?? I said wordplay can go either way depending on preference but I hope you're not implying Ghost don't have crazy wordplay because if you are then your scope on what wordplay is is extremely narrow.

Jay and Lupe are probably the best niggas at wordplay that I've ever heard, which is why I find it a clear victory for Jay.

But let's for a second act like me saying Wade is a top 5 player in the league still, which I didn't, what the fuck does that have to do with my ability to debate about Hip-Hop?

Now if you said I was a Lil Wayne stan, then maybe you could cast a dark cloud over my ability to debate this rap shit, but I'm not cut from that cloth, although you are.

Well then that's a problem in and of itself. This totally speaks to your inability to debate Hip Hop. When there are dudes, like Big Pun, Pharoahe, Rockness Monster, G-Rap, Black thought, Joell, Rakim, Ghost, etc. that have blessed Hip Hop. You are a Hip Hop bystander. Move along.

There is no problem, Jay and Lupe are amazing at word play, but let's act like that isn't the case.

 

[DOPEdweebz]

@ohhhla see what happened?

 

[CoolJoe]

 

[Kwan Dai]

This nigga said Ghostface got the better wordplay, I'm out.

But.... I'll leave this here, first.

Have you even listened to Ghost's catalog? You're a known Warrior.

I'm not a known "warrior", you're a known idiot, though.

And I've heard Ghost's shit.

Its a difference between the spitters and niggas like Jay.

Jay rarely gets off into that zone like he did in roc boyz but he's capable of it.

Ghost got whole albums where he's just going In.

Ghost put in a lot of work, we can go track for track and Im sure when Jay runs out of shit we will still be posting ghost tracks.

All that diamond, versace shit he was doing in the late 90s dont even compare to what Ghost was doing lyrically in that same period of time.

Jay is a better entrepreneur and that is all.

What are you talking about?

Jay dropped RD, Vol.1-3 during the late 90's, lmfao@ That not comparing.


Damn, you fadin em', Hov.

A bruh.

Ob4cl

Iron man

wu-tang forever

and Supreme Clientele

Vs

RD

Vol 1-3

Explain...this should be interesting

Supreme Clientele came out in 2000, bruh.

WU-Tang Forever is a group project, bruh.

Iron Man and OB4CL are dope though.

And why the fuck are you talking about projects, when we're talking about pure rapping.

And finally, Jay was going bar for bar with BIG, but he wouldn't have been able to go bar for bar with Ghost? Are you niggas serious? Lmao.

Supreme Clientelle dropped Jan.25 2000

vol 3 dropped dec.28 1999

The fuck are you on?

Yeah it was a group project but we were comparing what they did in a time period so its all fair game.

Im talking about what was done ON those projects.

Jay was nothing like Big. I hate that comparison.

One dropped in the 90's, one didn't, end of story.

There was never a point to just name projects at all....

And I never said Jay was anything like BIG, I said Jay did just as well as BIG on the three joints they had together, the fuck are you talking about?

Cool Joe seems to know a lot about Jay but not much about Ghost. But this the same guy who still thinks D Wade is a top 5 player. Duke is delusional. You weren't able to rebut anything in my post. Originality and emotion don't count for nothing?? I said wordplay can go either way depending on preference but I hope you're not implying Ghost don't have crazy wordplay because if you are then your scope on what wordplay is is extremely narrow.

Jay and Lupe are probably the best niggas at wordplay that I've ever heard, which is why I find it a clear victory for Jay.

But let's for a second act like me saying Wade is a top 5 player in the league still, which I didn't, what the fuck does that have to do with my ability to debate about Hip-Hop?

Now if you said I was a Lil Wayne stan, then maybe you could cast a dark cloud over my ability to debate this rap shit, but I'm not cut from that cloth, although you are.

Well then that's a problem in and of itself. This totally speaks to your inability to debate Hip Hop. When there are dudes, like Big Pun, Pharoahe, Rockness Monster, G-Rap, Black thought, Joell, Rakim, Ghost, etc. that have blessed Hip Hop. You are a Hip Hop bystander. Move along.

There is no problem, Jay and Lupe are amazing at word play, but let's act like that isn't the case.

No let's not act. Let's speak truth. You are limited and it shows the more you respond.

 

[CoolJoe]

Ghostface. No question. Off the strength of Iron Man and Supreme Clientele. There is no Jayz album that comes close to either of these. You herbs talking about sales don't even reply to my shit. Throw in verses like Impossible and gap widens even further.

Lmao, word, I'm out.