Better rapper Vol. 32: Ghostface or Jay-Z

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KingGivBiz;6180296 said:
@ohhhla see what happened?

Damn, I really thought Jay would lose.

Ghost is G.O.A.T. he just isn't as popular as Jay.

I would never argue. Buttah had great points. Funny ass
 
CoolJoe;6180211 said:
You street dreaming, all y'all niggas living Annotatethrough me

I gave you life when niggas was forgetting you emcee

I'm a legend, you should take a picture with me

You should be happy to be in my presence, I should charge you a fee

I'm Big Dog, Glenn Rob, listen God you a flea

And the little homey Jungle is a garden to me

Lmao, you're just hating at this point, you said the song was weak, cause it's "Beating a dead horse", so if he would have released it a year earlier it would have been alright? Shit makes no sense at all. You must hate "Last Real Nigga Alive" too then.

Why is everything hating? I've given Jay props throughout this threat and even noted joints you posted of his that I liked.

I didn't like the song plain and simple. Yes, it was beating a dead horse because most people already felt like the battle was finished at that point. He could have released the song whenever he wanted, it wasn't better than Ether, so why even bother? To me it just came off as him catching feelings at people believing Nas won and basically explaining why he should have been seen as the victor. That's not tight to me, sorry. And what in those lines is clever? It's just typical Jay banter, not bad, but not great.

And no I don't hate "Last Real Nigga Alive." Because it wasn't even a diss. It was just an account of everything leading up to the beef with Jay.
 
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ItzGravitation;6180391 said:
how is someone limited because they say Jay and Lupe have wordplay?

someone enlighten me

Lupe just hit my line, he asked if you jigga warriors could leave him out of this. Thanks.

 
buttuh_b;6177842 said:
A couple weeks ago me and my homeboy went to the corner store at like 3 in the morning to get a swisher. We ended up sitting in the parking lot for 2 hours rewinding one Ghost verse. Jay don't even have emotion b, this thread is disrespectful. Starks shit is so much more complex.

Emotion has NOTHING to do with being complex.
 
In all seriousness im kinda curious where some of you rate jay when it comes to all time what is it top 20, top 30, top 50......its crazy cuz seems no matter the poll with some of y'all he just can't win I'm convinced if he was to be put against bow wow we'd here

"Flow

Bow wow>>>jay cuz bow switched up his flow

Longevity

Bow wow>>> jay cuz he was in that snoop video"

Is y'all still made about that "condom in the baby sit" line??? Some of y'all gotta get over it and let it go sheesh...
 
GetoBoy;6181251 said:
In all seriousness im kinda curious where some of you rate jay when it comes to all time what is it top 20, top 30, top 50......its crazy cuz seems no matter the poll with some of y'all he just can't win I'm convinced if he was to be put against bow wow we'd here

"Flow

Bow wow>>>jay cuz bow switched up his flow

Longevity

Bow wow>>> jay cuz he was in that snoop video"

Is y'all still made about that "condom in the baby sit" line??? Some of y'all gotta get over it and let it go sheesh...

Honestly? I don't rank him at all. He's not even on my radar. The ONLY song I like that he recorded is, the D'evils. I've never been impressed by him as an MC. He's average to me like say Snoop. They made huge hits in their day and they still make moves in the current market.

As a commercially viable artist and businessman he is by all means one of Raps biggest artist ever. Props to him.

However, my Hip Hop sensibilities\experience\knowledge\participation will not let me factor that into assessing an MC's skills and for me Jayz has never cut it.

 
buttuh_b;6181283 said:
So we comparing Ghostface to Bow Wow now.

No we comparing the eyes of ppl like u where no matter who is in the poll against jay your gonna vote against jay which caused me to just wonder out of curiosity how far down you really rate him since it clearly isn't top 1-10 or is it just hate....
 
Kwan Dai;6181297 said:
Honestly? I don't rank him at all. He's not even on my radar. The ONLY song I like that he recorded is, the D'evils. I've never been impressed by him as an MC. He's average to me like say Snoop. They made huge hits in their day and they still make moves in the current market.

As a commercially viable artist and businessman he is by all means one of Raps biggest artist ever. Props to him.

However, my Hip Hop sensibilities\experience\knowledge\participation will not let me factor that into assessing an MC's skills and for me Jayz has never cut it.

I can respect that....
 
GetoBoy;6181333 said:
buttuh_b;6181283 said:
So we comparing Ghostface to Bow Wow now.

No we comparing the eyes of ppl like u where no matter who is in the poll against jay your gonna vote against jay which caused me to just wonder out of curiosity how far down you really rate him since it clearly isn't top 1-10 or is it just hate....

He's in my top 10. Ghostface is in my top 5. I own all of both their albums. How many Ghostface albums do you own?

How am I hating when in my long post I explained where I thought Jay excelled like with flow, wordplay, production??
 
buttuh_b;6181388 said:
He's in my top 10. Ghostface is in my top 5. I own all of both their albums. How many Ghostface albums do you own?

How am I hating when in my long post I explained where I thought Jay excelled like with flow, wordplay, production??

Bruh you need to get out yo feelings a bit where did I say you was hating I simply asked a question I'll leave yo hater status to the ppl who've been through these with you a lot more then me...
 
GetoBoy;6181426 said:
buttuh_b;6181388 said:
He's in my top 10. Ghostface is in my top 5. I own all of both their albums. How many Ghostface albums do you own?

How am I hating when in my long post I explained where I thought Jay excelled like with flow, wordplay, production??

Bruh you need to get out yo feelings a bit where did I say you was hating I simply asked a question I'll leave yo hater status to the ppl who've been through these with you a lot more then me...

You called me a hater at the end of the post I just responded to. How many Ghostface Killah albums have you purchased?
 
buttuh_b;6181434 said:
You called me a hater at the end of the post I just responded to. How many Ghostface Killah albums have you purchased?

Outside of supreme and fishscale none then there's 36 chambers now I'm not out here acting like his biggest stan but unless there's this major difference between those and what I haven't heard ima go with jay
 
My personal favorite out of the 2 is Ghostface but honestly looking at the situation overall Jay Z is the better artist because of his popularity, accolades and success in the genre and life in general.

 

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