Zoe Saldana’s ‘Nina’ Gets First Poster, More Online Backlash

[Lab Baby]

I'm just gonna sit back and laugh at ppls reactions when they cast one of Gwenyth Paltrow's kids to play Kanye West in a movie 30 years from now.

 

[Dupac]

now nina daughter is defending zoe and saying a friend handles the twitter page, that tweet was not from the family

 

[blackrain]

now nina daughter is defending zoe and saying a friend handles the twitter page, that tweet was not from the family

Its easier to wish bad on somebody than understand it's a lot of shit that goes into how these movies are put together

 

[_Goldie_]

now nina daughter is defending zoe and saying a friend handles the twitter page, that tweet was not from the family

Nina's brother is on TMZ right now saying Zoe was a bad choice and the movie is terrible.

 

[Dupac]

now nina daughter is defending zoe and saying a friend handles the twitter page, that tweet was not from the family

Nina's brother is on TMZ right now saying Zoe was a bad choice and the movie is terrible.

when was the last time he was interviewed for anything?

 

[_Goldie_]

now nina daughter is defending zoe and saying a friend handles the twitter page, that tweet was not from the family

Nina's brother is on TMZ right now saying Zoe was a bad choice and the movie is terrible.

when was the last time he was interviewed for anything?

lol he's an artist in his own right , his name is Sam Waymon.

 

[Dupac]

now nina daughter is defending zoe and saying a friend handles the twitter page, that tweet was not from the family

Nina's brother is on TMZ right now saying Zoe was a bad choice and the movie is terrible.

when was the last time he was interviewed for anything?

lol he's an artist in his own right , his name is Sam Waymon.

nigga prolly just mad he ain't in the movie...

 

[S2J]

Families typically hate biopics. Their opinion don't mean shit lmao Mainly bc people usually overestimate how much famiky knows wtf their sibling/daughter/ mother waa doin as a grown ass man or woman

Ie if you had a family member that was doin crack and the movie adressed it, they gon shit on the whole movie

 

[playmaker88]

Nina Simone's Face and the Realities of Blackness

Ta-Nehisi Coates

When I was a kid, I knew what the worst parts of me were—my hair and my mouth. My hair was nappy. My lips were big. Nearly every kid around me knew something similar of themselves because nearly every one of us had some sort of physical defect—dark skin, nappy hair, broad nose, full lips—that opened us up to ridicule from one another. That each of these “defects” were representative of all the Africa that ran through us was never lost on anyone.“Africa” was an insult—African bush-boogie, African bootie-scratcher etc. Ethiopian famine jokes were all the rage back then.

Did we want to be white? I don’t think so. We didn’t want to look like Rob Lowe or Madonna. We hated and mocked Michael Jackson’s aesthetic changes as viciously as we mocked each other. What we wanted was to be on the right end of the paper bag tests. We wanted hazel eyes. We wanted wavy hair. I had neither hazel eyes nor wavy hair. But I also didn’t suffer in the same way that I saw other kids around me suffer. I was not dark-skinned. And, more importantly, I was not a girl.

Even back then I somehow knew that it was a boy’s prerogative to be handsome or not in a way that it wasn’t a girl’s prerogative to be pretty or not. Boys had so many other ways of scaling the social ladder—humor, a killer jump-shot, or a reputation for violence—that were unavailable to girls. As I got older, I understood that this wasn’t merely a mark of West Baltimore, but of something grander. Biggie’s “One More Chance” was an ode to this distinctly masculine advantage:

Heartthrob never, black and ugly as ever

However, I stay Coogi down to the socks

Rings and watch filled with rocks

And my jam knocks...

Never has “however” been used to greater effect.There was no “however” for a girl deemed “black and ugly.” There were no female analogues to Biggie. “However” was a bright line dividing the limited social rights of women from the relatively expansive social rights of men.

I played a lot of Nina Simone in college. I play a lot of Nina Simone now. But I have always known that Nina Simone means something more to the black women around me than she does to me. Furthermore, I have always known that Nina Simone means something much more to a specific kind of black woman than she ever can for me. Simone was in possession of nearly every feature that we denigrated as children. And yet somehow she willed herself into a goddess.

Simone was able to conjure glamour in spite of everything the world said about black women who looked like her. And for that she enjoyed a special place in the pantheon of resistance. That fact doesn’t just have to do with her lyrics or her musicianship, but also how she looked. Simone is something more than a female Bob Marley. It is not simply the voice: It is the world that made that voice, all the hurt and pain of denigration, forged into something otherworldly. That voice, inevitably, calls us to look at Nina Simone’s face, and for a brief moment, understand that the hate we felt, that the mockery we dispensed, was unnatural, was the fruit of conjurations and the shadow of plunder. We look at Nina Simone’s face and the lie is exposed and we are shamed. We look at Nina Simone’s face and a terrible truth comes into view—there was nothing wrong with her. But there is something deeply wrong with us.

We are being told that Nina Simone’s face bears no real import on the new eponymous movie about her life, starring Zoe Saldana. “The most important thing,” said Robert Johnson, whose studio is releasing Nina, “is that creativity or quality of performance should never be judged on the basis of color, or ethnicity, or physical likeness.” This is obviously false. Saldana could be the greatest thespian of her time, but no one would consider casting her as Marilyn Monroe. Indeed Nina’s producers have gone to great ends—tragicomic ends—to invoke Nina Simone’s face, darkening Saldana’s skin, adorning her with prosthetics. Neither the term blackface nor brownface is entirely appropriate here. We are not so much talking about deliberate mockery as something much more insidious.

There is something deeply shameful in the fact that even today a young Nina Simone would have a hard time being cast in her own biopic.

It’s difficult to subtract the choice to cast Saldana from the economics of Hollywood—Saldana is seen as bankable in a way that other black women in her field are not. It’s equally difficult to ignore the fact that, while it is hard for all women in Hollywood, it is particularly hard for black women, and even harder for black women who share the dark skin, broad nose and full lips of Nina Simone. This fact is not separable from this country’s racist history, nor is the notion of “darkening up” a lighter skinned black person. Producers did it to Fredi Washington in Emperor Jones. They did it to Carmen de Lavallade in Lydia Bailey. (The make-up was called “Negro Number Two.”) They did it because they wanted to use the aura of blackness while evading the social realities of blackness. It’s possible that the producers were not, themselves, personally racist. This has no bearing whatsoever on anything. In America, racism is a default setting. To do nothing, to go along with the market, to claim innocence or neutrality, is to inevitably be a cog in the machine of racist hierarchy.

The producers of Nina are the heirs of this history—not personal racists, but cogs. Jezebel’s Kara Brown researched the team behind Nina. It is almost entirely white. Doubtless, these are good, non-racist people—but not good enough. No one on the team seems to understand the absurdity at hand—making a movie about Nina Simone while operating within the very same machinery that caused Simone so much agony in the first place. I do not mean to be personally harsh here. I am not trying to hurt people. But there is something deeply shameful—and hurtful—in the fact that even today a young Nina Simone would have a hard time being cast in her own biopic. In this sense, the creation of Nina is not a neutral act. It is part of the problem.

It’s here that the term “appropriation” bears some usage. We’re not talking about someone inspired by the deeper lessons of Simone’s life and her music. We are talking about people who think it’s fine to profit off her music while heedlessly contributing to the kind of pain that brought that music into being. To acknowledge that pain, to consider it in casting, would be inconvenient—as anti-racist action always is. It would mean giving an opportunity to someone who’s actively experienced the kind of pain that plagued Simone. That would doubtlessly mean a diminished chance at garnering funds for such a film. And that, in turn, would court years of delays and the possibility of the film never coming into being. That would be unfortunate—but less so for Nina Simone than for the agents who feel themselves entitled to profit her story.

Saldana has said that others actors who better resembled Simone passed on the role, and that she herself declined it for a year. But in the end she felt that Simone’s story “deserved to be told.” The sentiment is understandable. But the very fact that there’s such a shallow pool of actors who look like Simone is not a non-racist excuse, but a sign of racism itself—the same racism that plagued Nina Simone. Being conscious of that racism means facing the possibility of Simone’s story never being told. That is not the tragedy. The tragedy is that we live in a world that is not ready for that story to be told. The release of Nina does not challenge this fact. It reifies it.
http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2016/03/nina-simone-face/472107/

Last paragraph at the link great read.... the first bolded I remember this

 

[D0wn]

now nina daughter is defending zoe and saying a friend handles the twitter page, that tweet was not from the family

and u believe that gullible bulll shit???

i hate to hear the bull shit ppl run on u in your personal life.

 

[jono]

Saldana has said that others actors who better resembled Simone passed on the role, and that she herself declined it for a year. But in the end she felt that Simone’s story “deserved to be told.” The sentiment is understandable. But the very fact that there’s such a shallow pool of actors who look like Simone is not a non-racist excuse, but a sign of racism itself—the same racism that plagued Nina Simone. Being conscious of that racism means facing the possibility of Simone’s story never being told. That is not the tragedy. The tragedy is that we live in a world that is not ready for that story to be told. The release of Nina does not challenge this fact. It reifies it.

Whew

 

[Dupac]

Saldana has said that others actors who better resembled Simone passed on the role, and that she herself declined it for a year. But in the end she felt that Simone’s story “deserved to be told.” The sentiment is understandable. But the very fact that there’s such a shallow pool of actors who look like Simone is not a non-racist excuse, but a sign of racism itself—the same racism that plagued Nina Simone. Being conscious of that racism means facing the possibility of Simone’s story never being told. That is not the tragedy. The tragedy is that we live in a world that is not ready for that story to be told. The release of Nina does not challenge this fact. It reifies it.

Whew

thanks for bolding that....

 

[rip.dilla]

It might be a story "deserved to be told" but I ain't watching no actor in Black face and prosthetic nose playing a real life character just because there was a dearth of similar looking actors..

Them producers shoulda just put her in there with a 'fro and no make up or shit and gauge the public reaction

 

[Copper]

look man she played different colored beings from other planets and sold that shit....... but playing a fellow black woman a few shades darker is out of the question???

what has the world come to?

zoe plays a blue chick....world loves it

zoe plays a green chick...world loves it

zoe plays a black woman....niggaz lose their fucking minds...

i swear this shit is hilarious

Fiction vs non fiction nigga

 

[Rasta.]

Do y'all niggas really think Hollywood will paint a black activist in a positive light? They're in it for the money...

 

[stringer bell]

 

[Trillfate]

I was flipping channels last night and happened to see her on lip sync battle enthusiastically hugging on some Cac... i kept flipping

 

[white sympathizer]

Fuck nina simone, she was a precursor for these wenching ass black feminists of today

Talk all that pro black bullshit and dont fuck nothing but whiteboys, not even realizing the complete and utter hypocrisy.

 

[usmarin3]

Shit would be funny as fuck is she did a great job. Personally i never saw the purpose of an actor looking just like the person they are portraying unless it's some white washing going on like Angelina Jolie did Cleopatra.