WILL ISLAM EVER ADMIT THAT THEY HAVE A PROBLEM?

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zombie;7733532 said:
kingblaze84;7733516 said:
The New Testament was mostly written in Greek, a White man's language. So let's not pretend Europeans didn't edit and play with the book quite a bit, and many of the authors in the New Testament were Greek, White men. The Bible in many aspects is a White man's book, ask yourself who has benefited the most from it.....

most of the new testament was written by paul he was not a European so what the fuck are you talking about ???? you don't like religion Ok we understand that but stop making up lies or just shut the fuck up. I am black but if I can speak Japanese and write a letter in Japanese that does not make me nor my teachings in that letter CULTURALLY Japanese.

I meant to say it was put together by British, Roman and Greek men who edited and chose what to put in the book, is that not true..?
 
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kingblaze84;7733571 said:
zombie;7733532 said:
kingblaze84;7733516 said:
The New Testament was mostly written in Greek, a White man's language. So let's not pretend Europeans didn't edit and play with the book quite a bit, and many of the authors in the New Testament were Greek, White men. The Bible in many aspects is a White man's book, ask yourself who has benefited the most from it.....

most of the new testament was written by paul he was not a European so what the fuck are you talking about ???? you don't like religion Ok we understand that but stop making up lies or just shut the fuck up. I am black but if I can speak Japanese and write a letter in Japanese that does not make me nor my teachings in that letter CULTURALLY Japanese.

I meant to say it was put together by Roman and Greek men, is that not true..?

the book we call the bible is made of many different letters and there are different compilations of these letters so it's not exactly the truth to say that romans put together the first bible because these letter existed all over the middle east and parts of Africa for centuries before the romans decided to put them all together and call it the bible and we know for a fact that the oldest churches are not found in Greece or rome in fact the ethopian church for example I believe is older than the roman one
 
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zombie;7733536 said:
kingblaze84;7733504 said:
zombie;7732936 said:
christinity is not the white man religion none of the major figures in the bible were europeans

Pontius Pilate was Nigerian I forgot

JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP your anti-Christian bullshit about this issue is baseless Pontius pilate is not a major figure in the bible nor did he write any thing in it take your head out of your ass

You can get aggy all you want but he did, you know, sentence your lord and savior to death. Even if the Jews voted to kill him, he as governor had the power to let him live but he had him killed. Pretty major to me.
 
kingblaze84;7733616 said:
zombie;7733536 said:
kingblaze84;7733504 said:
zombie;7732936 said:
christinity is not the white man religion none of the major figures in the bible were europeans

Pontius Pilate was Nigerian I forgot

JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP your anti-Christian bullshit about this issue is baseless Pontius pilate is not a major figure in the bible nor did he write any thing in it take your head out of your ass

You can get aggy all you want but he did, you know, sentence your lord and savior to death. Even if the Jews voted to kill him, he as governor had the power to let him live but he had him killed. Pretty major to me.

You can continue to be ignorant if you want but he was just a pawn it was the Jews that were responsible for his crucifixion they set him up and everything. And in any case he is not a central figure of the bible.

Your position is weak faulty and pathetic but any chance you get to attack religion you take it even when you make no fucking sense.
 
@kingblaze84 Shut the fuck up you don't know your ass from your elbow when it comes to theology yet you keep running your mouth about religion. if I ask you how many apostle there were in total you probably won't even know.

 
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Problem? What problem? Less than 6%?

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zombie;7733675 said:
@kingblaze84 Shut the fuck up you don't know your ass from your elbow when it comes to theology yet you keep running your mouth about religion. if I ask you how many apostle there were in total you probably won't even know.

There were 12 main apostles, try again
 
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kingblaze84;7734092 said:
zombie;7733675 said:
@kingblaze84 Shut the fuck up you don't know your ass from your elbow when it comes to theology yet you keep running your mouth about religion. if I ask you how many apostle there were in total you probably won't even know.

There were 12 main apostles, try again

Lol haha hahahah not only ignorant you clearly cannot read very well lol.
 
zombie;7734169 said:
kingblaze84;7734092 said:
zombie;7733675 said:
@kingblaze84 Shut the fuck up you don't know your ass from your elbow when it comes to theology yet you keep running your mouth about religion. if I ask you how many apostle there were in total you probably won't even know.

There were 12 main apostles, try again

Lol haha hahahah not only ignorant you clearly cannot read very well lol.

Notice I said 12 MAIN apostles, are you going to deny he had 12 MAIN ones? Judas betrayed him and then Matthias took his place dum dum

Matthias “was enrolled with the eleven apostles” (Acts 1:26).

 
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For total I believe its 22 or 25 from what I remember, assuming one includes the apostles Jesus picked out after he "rose" from the dead. The subject is debatable because some say these people were more disciples then apostles.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disciple_(Christianity)

Anyway, the thread is getting off topic
 
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kingblaze84;7734337 said:
zombie;7734169 said:
kingblaze84;7734092 said:
zombie;7733675 said:
@kingblaze84 Shut the fuck up you don't know your ass from your elbow when it comes to theology yet you keep running your mouth about religion. if I ask you how many apostle there were in total you probably won't even know.

There were 12 main apostles, try again

Lol haha hahahah not only ignorant you clearly cannot read very well lol.

Notice I said 12 MAIN apostles, are you going to deny he had 12 MAIN ones? Judas betrayed him and then Matthias took his place dum dum

Matthias “was enrolled with the eleven apostles” (Acts 1:26).

lolololololol you are such a fool
 
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zombie;7734399 said:
kingblaze84;7734337 said:
zombie;7734169 said:
kingblaze84;7734092 said:
zombie;7733675 said:
@kingblaze84 Shut the fuck up you don't know your ass from your elbow when it comes to theology yet you keep running your mouth about religion. if I ask you how many apostle there were in total you probably won't even know.

There were 12 main apostles, try again

Lol haha hahahah not only ignorant you clearly cannot read very well lol.

Notice I said 12 MAIN apostles, are you going to deny he had 12 MAIN ones? Judas betrayed him and then Matthias took his place dum dum

Matthias “was enrolled with the eleven apostles” (Acts 1:26).

lolololololol you are such a fool

Did you read what I said about 12 MAIN apostles dum dum? There's debate among many as to how many real apostles there were, as some consider later followers disciples then apostles. ANYWAY, straight from Acts 1:26

So they nominated two men: Joseph called Barsabbas (also known as Justus) and Matthias. 24Then they all prayed, “O Lord, you know every heart. Show us which of these men you have chosen 25as an apostle to replace Judas in this ministry, for he has deserted us and gone where he belongs.” 26Then they cast lots, and Matthias was selected to become an apostle with the other eleven.



--Read that twice dum dum, I'm not gonna debate this apostle shit again
 
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What they are trying to say that the Bible was translated and polluted by Europeans into what it is today. They even removed Jesus' books from the Bible! @zombie‌ u can't call out the Muslim faith and in the same breath ignore all of the atrocities committed in the name of the Christian God and the Bible.
 
Huey_C;7736585 said:
What they are trying to say that the Bible was translated and polluted by Europeans into what it is today. They even removed Jesus' books from the Bible! @zombie‌ u can't call out the Muslim faith and in the same breath ignore all of the atrocities committed in the name of the Christian God and the Bible.

I never deny the atrocities committed by Christian people. However there is a difference between Christian history and the teachings of Christ.

Those atrocities, the evil things Christians have done are in direct opposition to Christ teachings and his behavior.

In Islam however the things muslims do come directly from Muhammad and are patterned after his behavior. He owned sex slaves, he ordered the assassination of people, he told Muslim men they could only have 4 wives when he had 12 thus making him a hypocrite. He gave the ok to lie to kill someone. He ordered the death of pagans and oppression of Jews and Christians.
 
zombie;7733546 said:
WOW ONE PERSON. you don't have a point, the fact of the mater is that all the people that the bible revolves around were NOT Europeans.
i think i said "at least one" and you said "none." and Pontius Pilate (to use our obvious example) is now not a major figure? weird, because i thought they talked about Rome for some reason in that NT

also:

zombie;7733532 said:
most of the new testament was written by paul he was not a European so what the fuck are you talking about ?
he's, what, a Jewish guy born in Turkey? sounds basically like a white European to me

also... this might all be because i think this is the stupidest argument and i refuse to take it seriously

ps. "white people" may also have been found in areas of the Middle East that are not considered "Europe"
 
janklow;7737188 said:
zombie;7733546 said:
WOW ONE PERSON. you don't have a point, the fact of the mater is that all the people that the bible revolves around were NOT Europeans.
i think i said "at least one" and you said "none." and Pontius Pilate (to use our obvious example) is now not a major figure? weird, because i thought they talked about Rome for some reason in that NT

also:

zombie;7733532 said:
most of the new testament was written by paul he was not a European so what the fuck are you talking about ?
he's, what, a Jewish guy born in Turkey? sounds basically like a white European to me

also... this might all be because i think this is the stupidest argument and i refuse to take it seriously

ps. "white people" may also have been found in areas of the Middle East that are not considered "Europe"

paul said he was a Hebrew born of Hebrew it matters not were he was born he could have been born in England that would not change his race. good idea for you not to argue because you are not making any fucking sense if I was born in china that still does not make me Chinese.

AND NO pilate is not a major figure In the bible because it does not revolve around him nor is he referenced over and over in the gospels he creates none of the themes in the gospel he does not guide the action from step to step he is a just another figure to say that he is a major one would be a lie. they talk about rome but the NT was created by non Europeans and non white people. All the apostles were jewish and not the white jews we see today.

sarcasm and passive aggressiveness are female traits men don't debate or talk to each other like that TRY BEING a man and speak direct. every fucking post from you is sarcasm and passive aggressive panty wearing bullshit. we all use sarcasm sometime but slow down with that shit it's over use makes you sound like a bitch.
 
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Christianity been compromised, and it was forced on us. Eventually we became brainwashed and docile. Then we "accepted it" Just like islam. Christianity AINT OUR SHIT AND ISLAM AINT EITHER!!!! Both of these religions are screwed up and twisted mutations of some super ancient african tales. I mean you can just point out all the rip offs just by comparing some of the major stories side by side. So are a lot of the holy symbols and relics. They're straight up twisted ass copies. It's the same shit with greek & norse mythology. They stole they whole swag from east & north africa. Then the rest of europe followed suit(putting their own twist on it of coarse).

Buuuuuuuuut, Zombie is right though. My point was that them religions chilled out and somewhat changed with the times. Fucking islam hasn't lol, they still in the dark ages in 2015!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hardly any major islamic figures in positions of power say anything about it!! These mothafuckas aint lifting a fucking finger to do shit until the non muslim world starts putting pressure on them. Even then they don't seem like they down lol. The people you see fighting and standing up to them are just regular ol poor muslims and non muslims. Major Islamic figures do just like the catholic church does to them holy little boy fuckers, sweep them under the rug. They don't punish them, nor do they cast them out or denounce them.

Major folks in islam are full of shit!!!! The famous prophets were fucked up in the head ancient cult leaders. No different than jim jones, charles manson and others. Their weird fucked up teachings are still holding strong today. I mean, outside of their ancient cults, who else witnessed all this holy shit they were doing?...........nobody!!!! The religion spread by massive violence and war(jihad). It's well documented smh. Bunch of over exaggerated stories/lies that turned into tall tales passed off as fact.
 
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ugh, excellent posts today, i see. okay...

zombie;7737285 said:
paul said he was a Hebrew born of Hebrew it matters not were he was born he could have been born in England that would not change his race. good idea for you not to argue because you are not making any fucking sense if I was born in china that still does not make me Chinese.
do you need me to quote the whole ""white people" may also have been found in areas of the Middle East that are not considered "Europe"" thing? because there, i just did.

zombie;7737285 said:
AND NO pilate is not a major figure In the bible because it does not revolve around him nor is he referenced over and over in the gospels he creates none of the themes in the gospel he does not guide the action from step to step he is a just another figure to say that he is a major one would be a lie. they talk about rome but the NT was created by non Europeans and non white people. All the apostles were jewish and not the white jews we see today.
you know, i'm sure you'll call the apostles "major figures," but somehow i doubt each and every one of them "guides the action step by step." a REAL argument would have been to discuss what impact Pilate has on the actual religious teachings... but i guess you were too busy getting deep into your feelings to really think about the topic?

also, you shouted out Paul as getting all this credit for writing the NT... and it seems like he's European and white. whoa

zombie;7737285 said:
sarcasm and passive aggressiveness are female traits men don't debate or talk to each other like that TRY BEING a man and speak direct. every fucking post from you is sarcasm and passive aggressive panty wearing bullshit. we all use sarcasm sometime but slow down with that shit it's over use makes you sound like a bitch.
i'm sorry, i thought my posts were pretty clear. if you didn't understand them... well, i don't know what to tell you. step your game up. this is not the most demanding material to process.

plus, i'm not sure you're in a position to tell anyone how to debate a topic, since you IMMEDIATELY lose your shit and go into a name-calling rage the second someone doesn't take whatever nonsense you're spouting as gospel.
 
janklow;7741357 said:
ugh, excellent posts today, i see. okay...

zombie;7737285 said:
paul said he was a Hebrew born of Hebrew it matters not were he was born he could have been born in England that would not change his race. good idea for you not to argue because you are not making any fucking sense if I was born in china that still does not make me Chinese.
do you need me to quote the whole ""white people" may also have been found in areas of the Middle East that are not considered "Europe"" thing? because there, i just did.

zombie;7737285 said:
AND NO pilate is not a major figure In the bible because it does not revolve around him nor is he referenced over and over in the gospels he creates none of the themes in the gospel he does not guide the action from step to step he is a just another figure to say that he is a major one would be a lie. they talk about rome but the NT was created by non Europeans and non white people. All the apostles were jewish and not the white jews we see today.
you know, i'm sure you'll call the apostles "major figures," but somehow i doubt each and every one of them "guides the action step by step." a REAL argument would have been to discuss what impact Pilate has on the actual religious teachings... but i guess you were too busy getting deep into your feelings to really think about the topic?

also, you shouted out Paul as getting all this credit for writing the NT... and it seems like he's European and white. whoa

zombie;7737285 said:
sarcasm and passive aggressiveness are female traits men don't debate or talk to each other like that TRY BEING a man and speak direct. every fucking post from you is sarcasm and passive aggressive panty wearing bullshit. we all use sarcasm sometime but slow down with that shit it's over use makes you sound like a bitch.
i'm sorry, i thought my posts were pretty clear. if you didn't understand them... well, i don't know what to tell you. step your game up. this is not the most demanding material to process.

plus, i'm not sure you're in a position to tell anyone how to debate a topic, since you IMMEDIATELY lose your shit and go into a name-calling rage the second someone doesn't take whatever nonsense you're spouting as gospel.

it does not matter that white people can be found in the middle east the fact remains paul said he was Hebrew BORN OF HEBREWS AND THE ANCIENT HEBREWS ARE NOT WHITE. You want to make paul white just because he was born in turkey, which is a faulty assertion . Some of the apostles are not major figures in the NT but they unlike PILATE are central to the actual purpose for the NT in the first place.

I UNDERSTAND YOUr POSTS PERFECTLY AND THEY ARE FULL OF UTTER BULSHIT mixed with estrogen. I make logical arguments or directly give my reasonings for my position on an issue, if someone cannot pick apart my reasoning and logic then I reserve the right the call them whatever the fuck I want

IF MY NAME calling distracts you from the points I make then that is your fault for being such an emotional bitch.
 
janklow;7741357 said:
ugh, excellent posts today, i see. okay...

zombie;7737285 said:
paul said he was a Hebrew born of Hebrew it matters not were he was born he could have been born in England that would not change his race. good idea for you not to argue because you are not making any fucking sense if I was born in china that still does not make me Chinese.
do you need me to quote the whole ""white people" may also have been found in areas of the Middle East that are not considered "Europe"" thing? because there, i just did.

zombie;7737285 said:
AND NO pilate is not a major figure In the bible because it does not revolve around him nor is he referenced over and over in the gospels he creates none of the themes in the gospel he does not guide the action from step to step he is a just another figure to say that he is a major one would be a lie. they talk about rome but the NT was created by non Europeans and non white people. All the apostles were jewish and not the white jews we see today.
you know, i'm sure you'll call the apostles "major figures," but somehow i doubt each and every one of them "guides the action step by step." a REAL argument would have been to discuss what impact Pilate has on the actual religious teachings... but i guess you were too busy getting deep into your feelings to really think about the topic?

also, you shouted out Paul as getting all this credit for writing the NT... and it seems like he's European and white. whoa

zombie;7737285 said:
sarcasm and passive aggressiveness are female traits men don't debate or talk to each other like that TRY BEING a man and speak direct. every fucking post from you is sarcasm and passive aggressive panty wearing bullshit. we all use sarcasm sometime but slow down with that shit it's over use makes you sound like a bitch.
i'm sorry, i thought my posts were pretty clear. if you didn't understand them... well, i don't know what to tell you. step your game up. this is not the most demanding material to process.

plus, i'm not sure you're in a position to tell anyone how to debate a topic, since you IMMEDIATELY lose your shit and go into a name-calling rage the second someone doesn't take whatever nonsense you're spouting as gospel.

Saint Paul was a Black Turkish man with dreadlocks and a Black Power Rangers costume, you didn't get the memo???
 
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