WILL ISLAM EVER ADMIT THAT THEY HAVE A PROBLEM?

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

Isn't Islamic God really the Abrahamic God Christians and Jews follow as well

No. Jesus is God. How can Islam worship the same God if they deny the divinity of Jesus Christ? Same as the Jews.

"And who is a liar? Anyone who says that Jesus is not the Christ. Anyone who denies the Father and the Son is an antichrist." 1 John 2:22

Islam also differs in that they believe that line of the promise God gave to Abraham went through Ishmael instead of Isaac. Thus, again showing that Islam doesn't worship the same God.

Amen.

 

[kingblaze84]

Isn't Islamic God really the Abrahamic God Christians and Jews follow as well

No. Jesus is God. How can Islam worship the same God if they deny the divinity of Jesus Christ? Same as the Jews.

"And who is a liar? Anyone who says that Jesus is not the Christ. Anyone who denies the Father and the Son is an antichrist." 1 John 2:22

Islam also differs in that they believe that line of the promise God gave to Abraham went through Ishmael instead of Isaac. Thus, again showing that Islam doesn't worship the same God.

Amen.

But Ishmael, Isaac, and Abraham all worshipped the same god right? And Muslims believe in one god, so technically that means Christians, Jews and Muslims are all religious cousins. Different philosophies but same wack job god.

 

[kingblaze84]

SMH at the Koran supporting rules for slavery.....

"Forbidden to you are...married women, except those you own as slaves." (Surah 4:20-, 24-)

Blessed are the believers...who restrain their carnal desires (except with their wives and slave-girls, for these are lawful to them)...These are the heirs of Paradise..." (Surah 23:1-5-)

"You shall not force your slave-girls into prostitution in order that you make money, if they wish to preserve their chastity." (Surah 24:33-)

Maybe this is why Boko Haram and other Muslim groups like kidnapping people so much? Strike 87687688 against the piece of shit Abrahamic god.

 

[zombie]

Isn't Islamic God really the Abrahamic God Christians and Jews follow as well

the relationship between the three religions is complicated

abraham is the spiritual father of all three meaning all three claim their inheritance from him but islam is the basturd child judaism is the rightful son and christinity is like the adopted child.

sarah was abrahmas wife she was old and thought she would not get pregnant so she told abraham to fuck hagar so that he could have a son to inherit the coveanant, this was against the wishes of the most high god.

anyway, ismael was the son of abraham and hagar. hargar was sarahs maid. basically hagar started to forget her place and sarah beat the shit out of her, after ismael was born sarah gave birth to issac.Eventually sarah got jealous or fealt intimated and forced abraham to kick hager out of the tribe taking ismael with her. Before hagar was kicked out god made her a promise that her son would bring forth many nations

genesis 16

9 Then the angel of the Lord told her, “Go back to your mistress and submit to her.” 10 The angel added, “I will increase your descendants so much that they will be too numerous to count.”

11 The angel of the Lord also said to her:

“You are now pregnant

and you will give birth to a son.

You shall name him Ishmael,[a]

for the Lord has heard of your misery.

12 He will be a wild donkey of a man;

his hand will be against everyone

and everyone’s hand against him,

and he will live in hostility

toward all his brothers.

Now keep in mind that today muslims are at war with basically everybody and that they claim the covenant was with isamael not issac

 

[achewon87]

Isn't Islamic God really the Abrahamic God Christians and Jews follow as well

Yes...

They're all Abrahamic religions...

Nothing complicated about it as long as you use logic and objectivity, they all share the same tenets and if you were to read the religious text you would find that they do indeed repeat the same stories e.g. Noah's Ark...

 

[zombie]

Isn't Islamic God really the Abrahamic God Christians and Jews follow as well

Yes...

They're all Abrahamic religions...

Nothing complicated about it as long as you use logic and objectivity, they all share the same tenets and if you were to read the religious text you would find that they do indeed repeat the same stories e.g. Noah's Ark...

No they are not the same religion to begin with islam and judiasm reject the godhood of christ and the relational situations between god and man is different in islam. Christianity CAN BE CALLED an add-on/ EXPLANATION OF the stories of judaism BUT ISLAM IS LITERALLY A RE-WRITE OF THOSE STORIES

 

[kingblaze84]

Isn't Islamic God really the Abrahamic God Christians and Jews follow as well

Yes...

They're all Abrahamic religions...

Nothing complicated about it as long as you use logic and objectivity, they all share the same tenets and if you were to read the religious text you would find that they do indeed repeat the same stories e.g. Noah's Ark...

No they are not the same religion to begin with islam and judiasm reject the godhood of christ and the relational situations between god and man is different in islam. Christianity CAN BE CALLED an add-on/ EXPLANATION OF the stories of judaism BUT ISLAM IS LITERALLY A RE-WRITE OF THOSE STORIES

Islam is a re-write of many of the stories but many of the foundations are the same. Islam also is an add-on religion, like Christianity is. Both copy like crazy from the Judaic texts, and the Judaic texts copied a lot and on and on. Abraham, Issac, and Ishmael all worshipped the same god, and one of the legacies of the Bible IS Islam. So there are more similarities btw Christianity and Islam then you may like, but according to every Muslim I've ever known, you guys all basically worship the same god. And the origins and background stories of the Abrahamic religions aren't much different, including the Adam and Eve story.

Funny how the Bible god largely inspired the religion you hate so much LOL.....I wonder if the Bible will help inspire another wacky religion someday?

 

[soul rattler]

Isn't Islamic God really the Abrahamic God Christians and Jews follow as well

Yes...

They're all Abrahamic religions...

Nothing complicated about it as long as you use logic and objectivity, they all share the same tenets and if you were to read the religious text you would find that they do indeed repeat the same stories e.g. Noah's Ark...

No they are not the same religion to begin with islam and judiasm reject the godhood of christ and the relational situations between god and man is different in islam. Christianity CAN BE CALLED an add-on/ EXPLANATION OF the stories of judaism BUT ISLAM IS LITERALLY A RE-WRITE OF THOSE STORIES

LOL @ a re-write of a re-write of a re-write of a re-write

The nerve of these cats.

 

[Jabu_Rule]

Most of the barbarism that occurs in Central and South America is done by God fearing Catholics who wash away their sins with confession. Hindu people still openly practice a cast system. Buddhist going at it in Burma. Christians are kidnapping kids into child armies and burning witches in Africa. I don't know one religion that fosters peace.

 

[And Step]

Plenty of religions foster peace. It just depends on the adherents.

The problem with myopic and half cocked posts like this one is that it doesn't seek or desire take into consideration political maneuvering disguised in religion, and the incessant need to make the so-called adherants flaws and misdeeds representative of the entire religion, while totally ignoring the opposite end of the adherant spectrum.

For instance, no one will talk about how modern day hospitals are primarily a Muslim invention who saw a need to care for the sick and elderly. Or how it was the Black Asian Muslims that freed the African Copts from Ptolemic and Persian rule, empowering them for a short time period

before the white Arab/Aryan hordes came in and usurped once again.

And for the record, Contemporary Islam is not a rewrite of old stories. It keeps some traditions and stories the same, well because these stories come from the same region as it relates to Abrahamic tradition. However, there are distinct differences in the "upgrade" that can not be dismissed.

 

[PILL_COSBY]

THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE WAR BETWEEN ALL THE RELIGIONS!!! THIS IS ABOUT HOW ISLAM OUT OF ALL THE OTHER RELIGIONS IS STILL ULTRA CRAZY UNLIKE THE OTHERS WHO HAVE CHILLED ON THEIR MADNESS. ALSO IT'S ABOUT HOW THEY TURN A BLIND EYE TO THE DARK SIDE OF THEIR RELIGION NO MATTER HOW CRAZY IT GETS.

The nation of islam is looking like a straight up bitch right about now. The average place where islam rules, everything is war torn and is a 3rd world country. Nobody in these places are actually happy(especially women) except for the "extremist" who just happen to be rich and powerful............ ... People stay running away from these places or wish they could leave them. This is a undeniable fact!!!! Growing up I done ran into many muslims from places where islam is in it's rawest form. They all pretty much had the same escape story lol especially the women. This one chick told me a story about her being sent to the U.K when she was younger. Because she was set to marry some old fat dusty sand nigga for a couple of farm animals. She had to move far away to escape an unwanted marriage???? lol and islam allows this madness

Again I ask, what are all the "pure" muslims doing to combat the crap load(not a few) of "extremist"? Why do these "extremist" have they own personal t.v channels? Why are regular everyday people allowed to walk down the streets with a rocket launcher? Why are these "extremist" never ever ever ever dealt with by non "extremist"? Why do non muslims from the u.s always seem to go over and handle these "extremist". But the divine chosen people aka "pure" muslims can't seem to do so by themselves.....

But let a woman walk down the skreet with tight fitting clothes showing skin...... let somebody eat a piece of pork...... let a woman talk back to her man or ask for a divorce....... let somebody not prey all the time...... let a woman have sex or get kissed/fingered before marriage.......

Most of the barbarism that occurs in Central and South America is done by God fearing Catholics who wash away their sins with confession. Hindu people still openly practice a cast system. Buddhist going at it in Burma. Christians are kidnapping kids into child armies and burning witches in Africa. I don't know one religion that fosters peace.

True, but LIKE I SAID IN THE ORIGINAL POST. They all have chilled out with their madness. Islam hasn't. You don't see spanish inquisitions going on anymore on a regular everyday basis. You don't see a whole race of people being rounded up on huge slave ships, treated inhuman, and worked to death anymore now do you? public executions, legal pedophilia, woman not being in complete control of their lives, etc etc. This type of archaic stuff is still going strong in places where islam rules. Constant war over something that neither side has any real proof of smh.

 

[zombie]

Most of the barbarism that occurs in Central and South America is done by God fearing Catholics who wash away their sins with confession. Hindu people still openly practice a cast system. Buddhist going at it in Burma. Christians are kidnapping kids into child armies and burning witches in Africa. I don't know one religion that fosters peace.

the crazy shit that goes on in south america is not done because of religion drug cartels are not killing people based on any religious doctrine. unlike in the mid-east were muslims are killing just based on religion

 

[Jabu_Rule]

Most of the barbarism that occurs in Central and South America is done by God fearing Catholics who wash away their sins with confession. Hindu people still openly practice a cast system. Buddhist going at it in Burma. Christians are kidnapping kids into child armies and burning witches in Africa. I don't know one religion that fosters peace.

the crazy shit that goes on in south america is not done because of religion drug cartels are not killing people based on any religious doctrine. unlike in the mid-east were muslims are killing just based on religion

Come on Bro.

wash away their sins with confession

burning witches in Africa

It doesn't have to be just based on anything in particular. It's happening, and religion isn't doing much to to stop it, yet these people are culturally religious.

 

[PILL_COSBY]

Plenty of religions foster peace. It just depends on the adherents.

The problem with myopic and half cocked posts like this one is that it doesn't seek or desire take into consideration political maneuvering disguised in religion, and the incessant need to make the so-called adherants flaws and misdeeds representative of the entire religion, while totally ignoring the opposite end of the adherant spectrum.

For instance, no one will talk about how modern day hospitals are primarily a Muslim invention who saw a need to care for the sick and elderly. Or how it was the Black Asian Muslims that freed the African Copts from Ptolemic and Persian rule, empowering them for a short time period

before the white Arab/Aryan hordes came in and usurped once again.

And for the record, Contemporary Islam is not a rewrite of old stories. It keeps some traditions and stories the same, well because these stories come from the same region as it relates to Abrahamic tradition. However, there are distinct differences in the "upgrade" that can not be dismissed.

The good in islam is always talked about so why would I waist my time with that. So you just gone sit there in la la land while countless people die and are treated wrong in the name of islam? That's exactly what you will do and that's what y'all always do.

Aint nothing half cocked about my post bruh. I simply pointed out how passive aggressive islam is when it comes to it's dark side. YES, ISLAM CLEARLY HAS A DARK SIDE!!! That's what this thread is about genius! Lets talk about how the religion was mostly spread by violence, brainwashing, and assimilation. Lets talk about the many people it doesn't help, but destroy and make unhappy. Lets talk about how muslim women are basically indentured servants. You want to talk about half cocked, lets talk about this half cocked response you gave......

Or is this the work of the dreaded "extremist" again. Man, islam sure has the G.O.A.T "extremist".

 

[Splackavelli]

honor killings also lets not forget the honor killings. killing your daughter wife etc because she got raped. she's the victim you idiots. you should be trying to kill the bastard that raped her. how backwards can you be?

 

[PILL_COSBY]

Most of the barbarism that occurs in Central and South America is done by God fearing Catholics who wash away their sins with confession. Hindu people still openly practice a cast system. Buddhist going at it in Burma. Christians are kidnapping kids into child armies and burning witches in Africa. I don't know one religion that fosters peace.

the crazy shit that goes on in south america is not done because of religion drug cartels are not killing people based on any religious doctrine. unlike in the mid-east were muslims are killing just based on religion

Most of the barbarism that occurs in Central and South America is done by God fearing Catholics who wash away their sins with confession. Hindu people still openly practice a cast system. Buddhist going at it in Burma. Christians are kidnapping kids into child armies and burning witches in Africa. I don't know one religion that fosters peace.

the crazy shit that goes on in south america is not done because of religion drug cartels are not killing people based on any religious doctrine. unlike in the mid-east were muslims are killing just based on religion

Come on Bro.

wash away their sins with confession

burning witches in Africa

It doesn't have to be just based on anything in particular. It's happening, and religion isn't doing much to to stop it, yet these people are culturally religious.

Both of you guys are saying what I'm saying. But @FuriousOne we're focusing on islam actually repping hard as hell right before they do some fucked up shit. Even though zombie pointed that out just to protect his set religion. He's 100% right. Like I said, I'm fully aware of the other religions evil, but they have chilled out a lot. Islam is still turnt up!! more than ever. By this rate they will surpass christianity's evil in no time lol. Islam has no chill whatsoever.

 

[Splackavelli]

heres an example of what the threadstarter was talking about. a muslim man treating a woman like property or a second class citizen.

 

[zombie]

Most of the barbarism that occurs in Central and South America is done by God fearing Catholics who wash away their sins with confession. Hindu people still openly practice a cast system. Buddhist going at it in Burma. Christians are kidnapping kids into child armies and burning witches in Africa. I don't know one religion that fosters peace.

the crazy shit that goes on in south america is not done because of religion drug cartels are not killing people based on any religious doctrine. unlike in the mid-east were muslims are killing just based on religion

Come on Bro.

wash away their sins with confession

burning witches in Africa

It doesn't have to be just based on anything in particular. It's happening, and religion isn't doing much to to stop it, yet these people are culturally religious.

Listen you have to be correct, unless the religion actually tells it's believers to do something, the wrong things done by it's believers should not count against the religion

jesus never told anyone to become a narco trafficer or to burn witches, muhammad on the other hand ordered the excutions of people and fucked his own daughter in law

blame christians for not doing what jesus said don't blame jesus for our fuck ups

 

[zombie]

muhammad saw how pretty his daughter in law was got horny and all of a sudden allah gave him a revelation that he should marry her. Muhammad raided a jewish village killed all the men and took the women as slaves now contrast that with the behavior of christ. and by the way one of these women poised his ass and he died a slow death from it.

THESE SO CALLED MILITANT MUSLIMS ARE ONLY DOING WHAT THEIR PROPHET DID.

 

[BlackCat]

Other religions had their time to commit many atrocities. And some still continue to this day. Islam is a new religion so they are going through the phase now but they are not worse than other religions. It's just too much world politics attached the conflicts regarding Islam and the way the media represents the whole religion doesn't do it justice. All Islam followers are not radicals and extremists.