Why J Cole is hiphops last hope (Huffington Post article)

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Jamaica;4951141 said:
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Jamaica;4951074 said:
A1000MILES;4951068 said:
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I'm still trying to figure out what's the big deal about J Cole being called a hip hop savior?

I mean who cares.

Nigga...Are you serious....?

Other rappers get called savior and no one bats an eyelid. Cole gets called a savior and y'all act like cats are calling him the 2nd coming of Jesus.

It's that rollover Jay-z hate, this dude is the bane of these IC niggas existence. Knowing damn well if the article was about one of them super rapping, no buzz ass nigga like Kendrick, Blu, etc ya'll wouldn't have a problem with it.

The J Cole hate is the weirdest thing ever.

It's not like Cole came in the game like 50 Cent dissing everybody and their momma. Cole didn't enter the game like Kanye all cocky and arrogant. He's been humble (for the most part) and he makes good/solid music.

Cole gets the same love from his audience that any other young upcoming artists gets (K.R.I.T, Kendrick Lamar, Lupe etc) but Cole supporters gets hate for giving him props. Because according to them any kind of props is considered "overrating Cole"

Dude, you know countless rappers been hated on on this site. Just think of all the successful Southern rappers that been hated on. Try to be Fair. This site is full of people who criticize and hate on some and get sensitive when people criticize others. None of it, just like this article, matter at all in the real world. I watch it all from afar and tell it how I see it.
 
Jamaica;4951109 said:
Jamaica;4951109 said:
A1000MILES;4951095 said:
Jamaica;4951074 said:
Jamaica;4951074 said:
A1000MILES;4951068 said:
Jamaica;4951059 said:
I'm still trying to figure out what's the big deal about J Cole being called a hip hop savior?

I mean who cares.

Nigga...Are you serious....?

Other rappers get called savior and no one bats an eyelid. Cole gets called a savior and y'all act like cats are calling him the 2nd coming of Jesus.

Think about the word "savior"...Read that shit you just posted...And point out the sense in it....

You are missing my point

This is my point and after I tell you my point then let's have this discussion.

OTHER RAPPERS ARE CALLED SAVIOR AND NO ONE QUESTIONS IT, YET J COLE GETS CALLED SAVIOR AND IT'S A PROBLEM.

THATS MY POINT.

Do you agree that he's the savior of hip hop...?

 
Cole isnt the savior of hip-hop

There's no such thing

But at the same time

I remember a couple years ago seeing an article that said "Kanye West: Hip-hop Savior" after the Dropout came out

I remember Lupe being called the hip-hop savior

Cole isnt the 1st and he certainly wont be the last, so idk why Cole gets criticized the most.

Like I said before, Cole is the IC's most hated rapper and this thread further proves that point.
 
He don't get hated the most...Niggas just don't agree...Ion think any rapper is the savior of hip hop, so it sounds stupid regardless....That article was pure hype and dick-ridery...
 
A1000MILES;4951249 said:
Jamaica;4951109 said:
Jamaica;4951109 said:
A1000MILES;4951095 said:
Jamaica;4951074 said:
Jamaica;4951074 said:
A1000MILES;4951068 said:
Jamaica;4951059 said:
I'm still trying to figure out what's the big deal about J Cole being called a hip hop savior?

I mean who cares.

Nigga...Are you serious....?

Other rappers get called savior and no one bats an eyelid. Cole gets called a savior and y'all act like cats are calling him the 2nd coming of Jesus.

Think about the word "savior"...Read that shit you just posted...And point out the sense in it....

You are missing my point

This is my point and after I tell you my point then let's have this discussion.

OTHER RAPPERS ARE CALLED SAVIOR AND NO ONE QUESTIONS IT, YET J COLE GETS CALLED SAVIOR AND IT'S A PROBLEM.

THATS MY POINT.

Do you agree that he's the savior of hip hop...?

Nope there are no "saviors" in hip hop, but I dont trip if any rappers gets called as such.
 
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A1000MILES;4951249 said:
Jamaica;4951109 said:
Jamaica;4951109 said:
A1000MILES;4951095 said:
Jamaica;4951074 said:
Jamaica;4951074 said:
A1000MILES;4951068 said:
Jamaica;4951059 said:
I'm still trying to figure out what's the big deal about J Cole being called a hip hop savior?

I mean who cares.

Nigga...Are you serious....?

Other rappers get called savior and no one bats an eyelid. Cole gets called a savior and y'all act like cats are calling him the 2nd coming of Jesus.

Think about the word "savior"...Read that shit you just posted...And point out the sense in it....

You are missing my point

This is my point and after I tell you my point then let's have this discussion.

OTHER RAPPERS ARE CALLED SAVIOR AND NO ONE QUESTIONS IT, YET J COLE GETS CALLED SAVIOR AND IT'S A PROBLEM.

THATS MY POINT.

Do you agree that he's the savior of hip hop...?

Nope there are no "saviors" in hip hop, but I dont trip if any rappers gets called as such.

There's a difference between trippin and disagreeing... The article way off, and the statement ain't true, so niggas disagree...Now, shit like BackInWhite sayin he gon be Chingy status is hate, but he's always been a Cole hater and he embraces that...
 
A1000MILES;4951300 said:
Jamaica;4951283 said:
Jamaica;4951283 said:
A1000MILES;4951249 said:
Jamaica;4951109 said:
Jamaica;4951109 said:
A1000MILES;4951095 said:
Jamaica;4951074 said:
Jamaica;4951074 said:
A1000MILES;4951068 said:
Jamaica;4951059 said:
I'm still trying to figure out what's the big deal about J Cole being called a hip hop savior?

I mean who cares.

Nigga...Are you serious....?

Other rappers get called savior and no one bats an eyelid. Cole gets called a savior and y'all act like cats are calling him the 2nd coming of Jesus.

Think about the word "savior"...Read that shit you just posted...And point out the sense in it....

You are missing my point

This is my point and after I tell you my point then let's have this discussion.

OTHER RAPPERS ARE CALLED SAVIOR AND NO ONE QUESTIONS IT, YET J COLE GETS CALLED SAVIOR AND IT'S A PROBLEM.

THATS MY POINT.

Do you agree that he's the savior of hip hop...?

Nope there are no "saviors" in hip hop, but I dont trip if any rappers gets called as such.

There's a difference between trippin and disagreeing... The article way off, and the statement ain't true, so niggas disagree...Now, shit like BackInWhite sayin he gon be Chingy status is hate, but he's always been a Cole hater and he embraces that...

I don't agree with everything the article was saying either, it's just funny to me that folks use something as minimal as "savior" to validate their dislike for Cole. It's weak IMO. If you don't fuck with his music then that's fine. But the wack ass excuses are garbage IMO.
 
Ok so people gonna ignore my point of people hate and criticize certain rappers (especially from the South) and get sensitive when people do the same for rappers they dont wanna hear criticized. Where Im from in Ga we brush haters off like fleas and keep stompin. Im seein muhfuhs can dish hatin but are soft on a level I cant fathom when the game is reversed. Hilarious.
 
Savior isn't a minimal statement nigga, lol...What the hell, would you call a nigga who gave you a ham and cheese sandwich when you were hungry your savior, or just a nigga who helped you out and had a decent sandwich...?
 
A1000MILES;4951472 said:
Jamaica;4951412 said:
Jamaica;4951412 said:
Why isn't savior minimal? it's cats like you taking it literal. That's the problem.

Bret...Did you read the article....?

What does that have to do with taking the term "savior" literal? I fucks with J Cole's music but you think some random article is gonna deter me from not listening to him? You think I'm taking the "savior" thing literal. He's trying to say that J Cole is making a style of music that he likes and prefers over what's out today. "savior" might be the wrong choice of words but I get his overall point.

Let me put it to you like this. Insert whichever young upcoming rapper you like and replace J Cole with that rapper, would the article still bother you as much? Or as you call it "disagree"
 
Jamaica;4951798 said:
A1000MILES;4951472 said:
Jamaica;4951412 said:
Jamaica;4951412 said:
Why isn't savior minimal? it's cats like you taking it literal. That's the problem.

Bret...Did you read the article....?

What does that have to do with taking the term "savior" literal? I fucks with J Cole's music but you think some random article is gonna deter me from not listening to him? You think I'm taking the "savior" thing literal. He's trying to say that J Cole is making a style of music that he likes and prefers over what's out today. "savior" might be the wrong choice of words but I get his overall point.

Let me put it to you like this. Insert whichever young upcoming rapper you like and replace J Cole with that rapper, would the article still bother you as much? Or as you call it "disagree"

Nigga...Yes...Ion hate Cole, but he ain't the savior of shit...Neither is Krit, Kendrick, Wale, Joey Badass, Drake, Lupe, etc...That shit is stupid, and I disagree...Especially when the argument is based in preposterous points such as the ones in the article...
 
These are parts of the article I agreed with

Virtually everything I once loved about rap music was missing; rhythmically exciting drum patterns, baselines and hooks inspired by 70s soul, and a charismatic MC capable of both street toughness and thoughtfulness. Drake came across as a simpering, emasculated wreck, as if to appeal to a modern and sexually egalitarian society his record company decided to surgically suck out his machismo. I wouldn't be surprised if he carries his testicles around in a dainty testicles purse.

I understand the genre's evolved, and mindless street posturing has been replaced by introspection on major themes like the nature of fame, politics, and society's ills, and I think that's a good thing. Nas' 1994 debut album 'Illmatic' was as philosophical as it gets. Krs-One has always challenged his listeners' prejudices and appealed to their intellect. Even whilst signed to Death Row, hip-hop's 'Gangsta Rap' staple, Tupac continued to pen lamentations on desperate, crack-addicted single mothers.

But these rappers all had a good enough understanding of their audience to maintain a balance. The music remained crowd-pleasingly funky, even whilst the lyrics could provide the basis for a thesis. Street kids could bump it in their car (apparently), whilst the detached intelligentsia could hail its 'rawness', 'dexterous wordplay', and 'haunting depictions of a low-income stratosphere trapped in a cycle of poverty'. And this is where much of the new breed (Drake, Kid Cudi, Wale, Kendrick Lamar) fall down. Never mind that modern 'pop rappers' wallow in neurotic self-doubt and desperate yearning for unrequited love, as though they're ghost-written by a particularly self-regarding teenage girl.

I have nothing against softness in rap music, some of my favourite tracks are love songs (see Ghostface Killah's 'Back Like That', LL Cool J's 'Hey Lover'). But hip-hop always needs that edge, both musically and lyrically. In fact, in my opinion any music does. Otherwise it just dissolves into a gooey mess and you sit there, nonplussed, wondering if you prefer broccoli or cauliflower and how long you could slap Bon Iver before he started crying.


Cole is a versatile MC. His voice has a strength and conviction belying an ego ready to best all challengers, in a rap battle or one of hip-hop's juvenile 'beefs'. There's a toughness about him to suggest he can fight his corner. But his lyrics are considered and self-aware, and never self-indulgent. Songs like 'Breakdown' display an appealing openness and convey empathy and depth of emotion. Cole is equally adept at intricate wordplay, seductive romance, and vivid storytelling.

So it's with great anticipation that I await J Cole's new releases and his second self-produced LP, expected next year. In the meantime I shall be studiously avoiding the respective outputs of Flo Rida, Nicki Minaj and the aforementioned Drake, and attempt to musically freeze myself in 1994 by listening to Notorious BIG's 'Ready To Die' on repeat.
 

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