Why do/don't you believe in god?

[bambu]

Bambu, I'm sorry to say but you're an irrational and racist bigot.

I grow weary of entertaining your insolence......

You should pray to the gods of your ancestors and beg forgiveness for their fuckery and failed attempts at manipulating the direction of humankind for their own twisted purposes....

Repent for your own ignorance and willingness to continue in their failed ideologies....Amun...

Bambu, I'm sorry to say but you're an irrational and racist bigot.

Irrational is the exact word to describe Bimbo.

LOL........ @Maestro_lungs, @beenwize, @Jaded Righteousness.....

smart/dumb ass niggas......

 

[waterproof]

LOL@ an invisible being telling anyone to do anything.

Lol according to waterproof an invisible being called Yahweh speaks to him by voice.

Smh at this stupid ass nigga and that stupid ass nigga small lung who cosigning a fool ol following the blind ass nigga.

Let me show everybody how dumb beenfool is, this pork eating ex hebrew turned hellenist christian turned occult worshiping a god that returning to fight aliens, turned nile valley now is a gnostic sethian, just said I follow a invisible god, but this stupid ass fool said he follow the new testament god but not the old testament elohim, lol.

Now beenfool have you ever seen ur god, have you heard your god, do your god answer back, does he manifest signs for you, I bet your answer is no, so the god you claim to follow, whom u never saw is invisible, u follow an invisible god either ur god is dead and is a fake since he nevered talk to you or ur god dont give a shit about you because you of non spirit.

Now let me bear witness to my mighty elohim YHWH, I see my father every day when I look in the mirror for I was made in his image, I hear my father when he talks to me and guide me when im not living right, my father let me hear his voice to let me know he's real and humble me when I doubt him and challenge his authority, my elohim showed me that everything he create is alive by showing me their life signature, showed me by praying, meditation, eating right, drinking water getting the mental, physical and spiritual one level how heighten the senses can be, all that higher vibration u talk about but never experience my elohim showed me when you live righteous and on a higher plane when you break universal law a strong vibration will rattle ur core, thats a higher level.

Now tell us what your god show u, that's right he did nothing because ur god is not with you or dont love u, your god is weak and dead or ignore you, my elohim is great and is alive and is mighty and will crush you and ur gods. I can bear witness of the signs, blessings of mine elohim can u

 

[waterproof]

that's right boy that called Ether what I just dropped and that ether that had you to bind your tongue, burned your soul, paralyzed your motor skills and crushed your weak spirit is called Truth.

And that truth activate the fight and flight dna, and your coward soul choose the flght that had you to hit the flag button.

Let me tell you something boy. Mentally, intellectually, Physically and Spiritually you are below me and I will crush you.

you dealing with elohim manifested in the flesh

Now boy tell us about your god who name you not know, nevered seen and nevered heard

 

[beenwize]

^ LMAO wat a joke... i typed one sentence and this retard replies with a TITANgraph of emotional bullshyt. dude u not even worth wasting time on is why i did not reply.

 

[waterproof]

^ LMAO wat a joke... i typed one sentence and this retard replies with a TITANgraph of emotional bullshyt. dude u not even worth wasting time on is why i did not reply.

The disciple of lies, u coward that ether burnt and your ass read it and was lurking in the thread for minutes. I seen you lol, then you decided to hit the flag button and lurked some more. What a coward, so are you going to explain why the god u claim to follow never talk to you, never showed u signs and manifested knowledge into reality, and why you never seen your god. Because you said you follow the new testament god that yahushua follows but yahushua follows the elohim YHWH that I follow and YHWH talked to Yahushua and showed signs, and yah talked to me and showed me signs but why not u.

That's because you made ur god up, u try make up a god and try to say yahushua do not worship Yah but the god you

Think he worship to satisfy you, The gall of you, to curse the heavenly father and call him out of his name. And you know you fucked up because when you came back for the third time you said you going to stop talking about Yah (u called him yahweh) because you don't know if he's the real god or not. You wanted to repent but you know deep down you fucked up by cursing the father and there's no coming back again, so u kept cursing the father and try to tell urself that Yah is not yahushua father. U done fucked up bad, I wouldn't take a billion dollars to be in your shoes

 

[beenwize]

^ LMAO wat a joke... i typed one sentence and this retard replies with a TITANgraph of emotional bullshyt. dude u not even worth wasting time on is why i did not reply.

The disciple of lies, u coward that ether burnt and your ass read it and was lurking in the thread for minutes. I seen you lol, then you decided to hit the flag button and lurked some more. What a coward, so are you going to explain why the god u claim to follow never talk to you, never showed u signs and manifested knowledge into reality, and why you never seen your god. Because you said you follow the new testament god that yahushua follows but yahushua follows the elohim YHWH that I follow and YHWH talked to Yahushua and showed signs, and yah talked to me and showed me signs but why not u.

That's because you made ur god up, u try make up a god and try to say yahushua do not worship Yah but the god you

Think he worship to fit satisfy you, The gall of you.

LMAO this dude can't be serious.. Do you even consider that I was online through a cell phone and I did not bother to change the site since I was doing other things? Lol, look how silly u are, a real bitch and retard for real.

 

[judahxulu]

Yeah you talking all that bullshit but it still don't change the fact that

1. Hoover wasn't looking for Black Hebrew Isrealites, nor were they a target

2. King was not a Black Hebrew Isrealite; neither was Malcolm, Muhammad, Newton or anybody important to Hoover

3. The Communism/Black Nationalists were a threat to Hoover; they were targets

4. Atheists played a part in black history and world history; more so than Black Hebrew Isrealites have and/or will

5. You, being human, are an ape, and your ancestors shared the same reality

You asked for atheists and I named them.. and can keep doing so.. Don't get tight cuz I brought Randolph up, bitch boy.

coon.

Says the black man calling me a nigga.

low self esteem

Just because I say that you aren't special doesn't mean I have low self esteem. Like I told you before, you and I are just waves in the same ocean. Your perceptions have tricked you into thinking you are seperate from me and your religion has you believing you're on a pedastal

how can u invoke any kind of black consciousness and co-sign that "monkey shit"? very contradictory.

i dont believe youre an authority on "specialness"...then again......

tell me more about perceptions that you perceive that i haven't discussed with you and tell me some more about this religion that i dont have. that waves talk aint scientific, buddy.

 

[Bodhi]

Now let me bear witness to my mighty elohim YHWH, I see my father every day when I look in the mirror for I was made in his image, I hear my father when he talks to me and guide me when im not living right, my father let me hear his voice to let me know he's real and humble me when I doubt him and challenge his authority, my elohim showed me that everything he create is alive by showing me their life signature, showed me by praying, meditation, eating right, drinking water getting the mental, physical and spiritual one level how heighten the senses can be, all that higher vibration u talk about but never experience my elohim showed me when you live righteous and on a higher plane when you break universal law a strong vibration will rattle ur core, thats a higher level.

Now tell us what your god show u

He could very well say the exact same thing as you did. We can't prove any of that, though so it has to be dismissed. You would have to provide evidence that we could see or experience.

 

[Bodhi]

Yeah you talking all that bullshit but it still don't change the fact that

1. Hoover wasn't looking for Black Hebrew Isrealites, nor were they a target

2. King was not a Black Hebrew Isrealite; neither was Malcolm, Muhammad, Newton or anybody important to Hoover

3. The Communism/Black Nationalists were a threat to Hoover; they were targets

4. Atheists played a part in black history and world history; more so than Black Hebrew Isrealites have and/or will

5. You, being human, are an ape, and your ancestors shared the same reality

You asked for atheists and I named them.. and can keep doing so.. Don't get tight cuz I brought Randolph up, bitch boy.

coon.

Says the black man calling me a nigga.

low self esteem

Just because I say that you aren't special doesn't mean I have low self esteem. Like I told you before, you and I are just waves in the same ocean. Your perceptions have tricked you into thinking you are seperate from me and your religion has you believing you're on a pedastal

how can u invoke any kind of black consciousness and co-sign that "monkey shit"? very contradictory.

i dont believe youre an authority on "specialness"...then again......

tell me more about perceptions that you perceive that i haven't discussed with you and tell me some more about this religion that i dont have. that waves talk aint scientific, buddy.

Well, the wave thing is more philosophical than scientific and so am I. Basically, when I say that your perceptions have tricked you into thinking you are seperate from me, I'm referring to the eternal energy that we are all a part of and ultimately are. Philosophically, the Buddha spoke about the five aggregates (form, consciousness, perception, feeling/sensation, and mental formations; neither of these are the self but they give us the illusion of a self) Look at your hand. Each finger is part of one whole, and can act on its own but the hand as a whole acts for one purpose. I believe the universe is the same. We are part of one whole though we believe we are "seperated". Scientifically, I've read that quantum foam "breaks down" or "decays" into subatomic particles. That's why we get "something" from "nothing". If you think of it as an eternal ocean, waves are manifested in that ocean and form and being are like the "waves" in this "ocean". When we look at a real ocean, waves are born, rise, fall and die, returning to the essence. I believe the same can be said for the universe and all that are a part of it. We are born, rise and fall (or age) and we die. When we die, we return to this eternal ocean; the Tao.

i haven't discussed with you

thats what I believe. Like for instance, when you think, your thoughts are in 2D while you exist in 3D. The same can be applied to the eternal substance which exists in a higher dimension but the universe, a manifestation of this eternal substance, exists in the lower dimension. Like the example of an eternal sea producing temporary or finite waves and foam. The water is in the wave, but the wave itself is not the sea. Likewise, the eternal substance exists in you and I but you and I are not "God". At the same time, "God" is not the god as theism describes

lol...you know more about what the bible say in the hebrew thought than more than a few hebrews i know and you an atheist or agnostic or something (i forgot which one). top reason why niggas and crackas dont like this is because this conceptualization does not abdicate personal responsibility and accountability to all the dimensions you exist in like a white,bearded lightning bolt good or a magnetic personality who is sposed to be an intercessor or some other kind of lame human sacrifice deal.

you didn't huh?

If you read my quote you replied to in the quote I just posted, you'll see why I classify myself as an atheist. You agree with me apparently and you've said before on this site that you could be classified as an atheist (if you don't believe you said that, I can find it for you--please don't make me do that, though, cuz I don't really want to waste my time just to verify that with you. Just trust me.) so I'm having a hard time understanding why you get so upset when myself and other atheist posters here criticize theism. Can you explain that?

 

[Bodhi]

And your religion is judaism

 

[Bodhi]

how can u invoke any kind of black consciousness and co-sign that "monkey shit"? very contradictory.

It's not like all scientists are white. Science is global and the scientific community agrees on evolution. and science doesn't say that only black people evolved from apes. White people and all humans have evolved from and are apes

 

[loch121]

I think all religion and the ideas are bullshit but, I do believe a force of creation made us because even in science nothing comes from nothing.

 

[Bodhi]

@Judah.. Very interesting that you say your perceptions are what I perceive. I had a convo with someone today and spoke about perceptions, the observed is the observer, personal interpretations, relative and absolute truth. What do you have to say about the two truths?

 

[bambu]

how can u invoke any kind of black consciousness and co-sign that "monkey shit"? very contradictory.

It's not like all scientists are white. Science is global and the scientific community agrees on evolution. and science doesn't say that only black people evolved from apes. White people and all humans have evolved from and are apes

LOL....

It is simple to co-sign that monkey shit with a blind faith science......

And you cannot provide an evolutionary model which does not agree with Europeans being the "evolutionary" apex of mankind......

 

[maestro_lungs]

I think all religion and the ideas are bullshit but, I do believe a force of creation made us because even in science nothing comes from nothing.

It's Highly Highly Unlikely! We Have way More Plausible Ideas on the Origins of Life than a Something Creating us

When physicists say there was "nothing" before the Big Bang of our universe they do not mean literally nothing. What they mean is that there was no matter, just energy. It was that energy which formed matter and the Big Bang. I Know The question People will commonly ask is "What came before that? Before that? And before that?" Once science cannot currently provide an answer they will insert God and assert that he created it. In this case they will assert that God created the energy which gave way to the Big Bang.

There are two main problems to that assertion. First, it is a mere assertion not based on evidence. Secondly, you would have to ask what came before God? If one says it is an unanswerable question then why not say that "where did energy come from" is an unanswerable question too? And if one is going to conclude that God always existed then why not do as Carl Sagan suggests and save a step by concluding that energy always existed?

 

[Bodhi]

And another thing, nobody says anything about it and it's been bothering me ever since I started posting here. @Waterproof, is English your first language? Choosed and nevered are not actual words.

Now boy tell us about your god who name you not know, nevered seen and nevered heard

 

[maestro_lungs]

The theory of evolution does not say we came from monkeys/apes/orangutans/or any primate around today. It proposes that humans, monkeys, apes and orangutans came from the same ANCESTOR. Think of it this way; say you are related to Cleopatra. So is the person next to you, and you two look nothing alike. It's like saying 'What? I didn't come from that person next to me!', but on a much grander scale.

As for the whole argument of 'well, why did we stop evolving?' well, we haven't. Snakes still have vestigial leg bones. Whales have hip bones. A certain species of moth has, over time, changed color to match its now polluted surroundings.

 

[bambu]

The theory of evolution does not say we came from monkeys/apes/orangutans/or any primate around today. It proposes that humans, monkeys, apes and orangutans came from the same ANCESTOR. Think of it this way; say you are related to Cleopatra. So is the person next to you, and you two look nothing alike. It's like saying 'What? I didn't come from that person next to me!', but on a much grander scale.

As for the whole argument of 'well, why did we stop evolving?' well, we haven't. Snakes still have vestigial leg bones. Whales have hip bones. A certain species of moth has, over time, changed color to match its now polluted surroundings.

Sounds familiar.....

 

[bambu]

The theory of evolution does not say we came from monkeys/apes/orangutans/or any primate around today. It proposes that humans, monkeys, apes and orangutans came from the same ANCESTOR. Think of it this way; say you are related to Cleopatra. So is the person next to you, and you two look nothing alike. It's like saying 'What? I didn't come from that person next to me!', but on a much grander scale.

As for the whole argument of 'well, why did we stop evolving?' well, we haven't. Snakes still have vestigial leg bones. Whales have hip bones. A certain species of moth has, over time, changed color to match its now polluted surroundings.

Another "sign of evolution" according to European scientists was the pineal gland....

"The pineal gland was originally believed to be a "vestigial remnant" of a larger organ. In 1917 it was known that extract of cow pineals lightened frog skin. Dermatology professor Aaron B. Lerner and colleagues at Yale University, hoping that a substance from the pineal might be useful in treating skin diseases, isolated and named the hormone melatonin in 1958."

We now understand that it produces melanin and synthesises melatonin

 

[maestro_lungs]

The theory of evolution does not say we came from monkeys/apes/orangutans/or any primate around today. It proposes that humans, monkeys, apes and orangutans came from the same ANCESTOR. Think of it this way; say you are related to Cleopatra. So is the person next to you, and you two look nothing alike. It's like saying 'What? I didn't come from that person next to me!', but on a much grander scale.

As for the whole argument of 'well, why did we stop evolving?' well, we haven't. Snakes still have vestigial leg bones. Whales have hip bones. A certain species of moth has, over time, changed color to match its now polluted surroundings.

Another "sign of evolution" according to European scientists was the pineal gland....

"The pineal gland was originally believed to be a "vestigial remnant" of a larger organ. In 1917 it was known that extract of cow pineals lightened frog skin. Dermatology professor Aaron B. Lerner and colleagues at Yale University, hoping that a substance from the pineal might be useful in treating skin diseases, isolated and named the hormone melatonin in 1958."

We now understand that it produces melanin and synthesises melatonin

Interesting, But Your Point? I'm not Sure How you Guys Keep Injecting Race in These Conversations About Evolution. I think Scientifically it's been Shown We're all Pretty Much Alike! Being Mixed Somewhat as Most if Not all American Blacks Are. I Just Figure Skin Color was our way of Adapting to Different Climates as We Evolved & Migrated. What is Your Take on it?