Why Did PAC Beef With NAS and JAY?

[HipHopinRaps]

Link or the shit didn't happen my dude..

3:30 is the proof

and next niqqa stop being in denial, nobody in hiphop will have a legacy as deep as 2pac. Also mind you while he was in jail since you said thats one of the reason he sold alot and he went to deathrow

Rappers was calling him gay, takin sides and talking shit about him, then politicians trying to ban his record. Nas can fuck with pac i agree but Jay-Z? nah i don't see that happening at all even if it was the 2001 jay z. I Mean cmon he only dissed nas about his record sales and mob deep about the ballerina pics. What can jay do to pac? " You a fagget ass nigga who wears nose studs" thats about it and its still garbage.

 

[jonathand]

So Pac was 50 cent before 50. People love to say 50 only sold because he got shot and linked himself to Dre and Em. Well, Pac got released from jail, signed to the biggest label on the planet (there goes that Dr. Dre again) and was involved in a big time "battle" (kinda like 50 and ja-rule). So before the "extra attribute" Pac was "normal". After, he became a star. Since people like to plat the "what if" game, what if Pac never went to jail, signed to a colossal record label and represented a whole coast in a battle? Interesting.....

 

[gee757]

3:30 is the proof

and next niqqa stop being in denial, nobody in hiphop will have a legacy as deep as 2pac. Also mind you while he was in jail since you said thats one of the reason he sold alot and he went to deathrow

Rappers was calling him gay, takin sides and talking shit about him, then politicians trying to ban his record. Nas can fuck with pac i agree but Jay-Z? nah i don't see that happening at all even if it was the 2001 jay z. I Mean cmon he only dissed nas about his record sales and mob deep about the ballerina pics. What can jay do to pac? " You a fagget ass nigga who wears nose studs" thats about it and its still garbage.

thank u fa that shit i knew it was 2monthz..

 

[MR.CJ]

3:30 is the proof

and next niqqa stop being in denial, nobody in hiphop will have a legacy as deep as 2pac. Also mind you while he was in jail since you said thats one of the reason he sold alot and he went to deathrow

rappers was calling him gay, takin sides and talking shit about him, then politicians trying to ban his record. Nas can fuck with pac i agree but jay-z? Nah i don't see that happening at all even if it was the 2001 jay z. I mean cmon he only dissed nas about his record sales and mob deep about the ballerina pics. What can jay do to pac? " you a fagget ass nigga who wears nose studs" thats about it and its still garbage.

owned!!!!!!!!!!

 

[gee757]

So Pac was 50 cent before 50. People love to say 50 only sold because he got shot and linked himself to Dre and Em. Well, Pac got released from jail, signed to the biggest label on the planet (there goes that Dr. Dre again) and was involved in a big time "battle" (kinda like 50 and ja-rule). So before the "extra attribute" Pac was "normal". After, he became a star. Since people like to plat the "what if" game, what if Pac never went to jail, signed to a colossal record label and represented a whole coast in a battle? Interesting.....

plz dont compare pac 2 that house nigga cuuurly cuz that coon need'd a white boy 2 b a platinum sellin artist....cuuurly had a hand out wit femz brainwash'd groupiez pac aint need no redneck

 

[jonathand]

Everyone knows Jay's sales inflated after Big's death cause Biggie's fanbase drifted to him. You don't go from Platinum to 5x Platinum in 1 album. Those 10 Million "Life After Death" fans brought "Hard Knock Life".

Pac went from 2x platinum total to 5 mill in three months, in 1 album. Funny huh???

 

[rapmastermind]

and if niggas counting LAD they should count Makaveli album

Pac had oversaw the makaveli project right to the end minus the nas shit where as alot of BIGS LAD album was incomplete when he died

We are talking about the 1st few albums. Over 4 LP's, Biggie had the best stats. Over 2 LP's Biggie had the best stats, Over 1 LP, Biggie had the best stats. Pac 1st 5 LPs:

2PN - Gold

S4MN - Plat

MATW - 2x Platinum

AEOM - 9x Platinum

M - 4x PLatinum

=16.5x Platinum

RTD - 4x Platinum

LAD - 10x Platinum

BA - 2x Platinum

D - Platinum

=17x Platinum

Pac didn't overtake Biggie until you start adding all those double albums including his greatest hits after his death. Currently:

Tupac: 37 Million (11 LP's) including greatest hits

Biggie: 18 Million (5 LP's) including greatest hits

 

[HipHopinRaps]

listen to this.

[video=youtube;cOtURwZtPJs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOtURwZtPJs&feature=related[/video]

yall niqqas can't say he ain't lyrical in that shit! 2pac groupies, 2pac stans idgaf

2Pac is in most of every niqqas top 5, INCLUDING JAY Z and NAS.

 

[rapmastermind]

Also can NaS get some props sales wise? He's one of the most consistant in Hip Hop History:

ILLmatic - Platinum

IWW - 2x Platinum

I am - 2x Platinum

N - Platinum

STILLmatic - 2x Platinum

GS - Platinum

SD - Platinum

HHID - Gold

U - Gold

His 1st 7 albums went Platinum or better. That's damn good.

 

[HipHopinRaps]

my proof for the claim of 2pac being in jay-z's top 5

 

[gee757]

Pac went from 2x platinum total to 5 mill in three months, in 1 album. Funny huh???

pac sold 5mill n 2monthz thatz from da horse mouf & j & nas will neva do that n they lifetime TUPAC WON!

 

[HipHopinRaps]

3:30 is the proof

and next niqqa stop being in denial, nobody in hiphop will have a legacy as deep as 2pac. Also mind you while he was in jail since you said thats one of the reason he sold alot and he went to deathrow

Rappers was calling him gay, takin sides and talking shit about him, then politicians trying to ban his record. Nas can fuck with pac i agree but Jay-Z? nah i don't see that happening at all even if it was the 2001 jay z. I Mean cmon he only dissed nas about his record sales and mob deep about the ballerina pics. What can jay do to pac? " You a fagget ass nigga who wears nose studs" thats about it and its still garbage.

just in case yall didnt see

 

[jonathand]

Everyone knows Jay's sales inflated after Big's death cause Biggie's fanbase drifted to him. You don't go from Platinum to 5x Platinum in 1 album. Those 10 Million "Life After Death" fans brought "Hard Knock Life".

Also, Big went from 4x Platinum (a good portion coming AFTER he died) to diamond. That's a 6 million gap. So let me guess, somehow Bigs sales aren't "inflated"???

 

[jonathand]

pac sold 5mill n 2monthz thatz from da horse mouf & j & nas will neva do that n they lifetime TUPAC WON!

I explained that in my 50 comparison. Getting out of jail, signing to the biggest label with the biggest producer, and representing a whole coast during a "beef" will help you go from 2x platinum total to 5 mil in 3 months. It isn't hard to understand...

 

[TRILLip Brooks]

who cares!

Pac's a GOAT

BIG's a GOAT

Jay's a GOAT

Nas's a GOAT

can we just enjoy the music

 

[rapmastermind]

and if niggas counting LAD they should count Makaveli album

Pac had oversaw the makaveli project right to the end minus the nas shit where as alot of BIGS LAD album was incomplete when he died

False, "Life After Death" was 100% completely before Biggie's death. It's release date "March 25 1997" did not change and was the original release date. He was in LA on a promo radio tour for the album at the time of his death. He already shot the "Hypnotize" Video. This wasn't a Big Pun "Yeah Baby" cut and paste situation. Biggie completed "LAD" and Pac completed "Makaveli" before both stop breathing. This is why most people considered LAD, AEOM and M classics cause they were the offical last recordings of Biggie and Pac before they died.

 

[gee757]

I explained that in my 50 comparison. Getting out of jail, signing to the biggest label with the biggest producer, and representing a whole coast during a "beef" will help you go from 2x platinum total to 5 mil in 3 months. It isn't hard to understand...

again u cant compare pac 2 cuurly cuz cuuurly need'd a white boy 2 b a platinum sellin artist & pac sold 5mill n 2mthz not 3,,,& that might b tru wat ya sayin but j & nas will neva do that llol...& pac rep mo then 1 coast therr is no way he sold 5mill n 2monthz just sellin on da westcoast come on lol

 

[HipHopinRaps]

I explained that in my 50 comparison. Getting out of jail, signing to the biggest label with the biggest producer, and representing a whole coast during a "beef" will help you go from 2x platinum total to 5 mil in 3 months. It isn't hard to understand...

correct me if im wrong but didn't Dre just produce one song for Pac? "california love"

2. T.I., DMX, Game, 50, Wayne(still in jail) and more others came out after jail but some still didn't sell well.

Deathrow was the biggest but Bad boy wasn't far behind.

So did BIG rep his coast

 

[rapmastermind]

who cares!

Pac's a GOAT

BIG's a GOAT

Jay's a GOAT

Nas's a GOAT

can we just enjoy the music

So I guess most can agree these guys make the Top 5. The question really is who gets that 5th spot? I say Rakim, some would agrue KRS, Big Daddy Kane, LL or Eminem we will see what History decides. But I think these 4 spots are safe.

 

[thesynthesis]

I explained that in my 50 comparison. Getting out of jail, signing to the biggest label with the biggest producer, and representing a whole coast during a "beef" will help you go from 2x platinum total to 5 mil in 3 months. It isn't hard to understand...

GOOD MUSIC will help you shift records...AEOM is considered by many as Pacs best album. Pac put together a great record.

He sold 5 mil because the album was that damn good

Whatever excuse you use to why Pac sold 5 mil is void, arguments can be brought up for any rappers sales, from Jayz, Em, Snoop, whoever else...

Pacs life was part and parcel to his music....

There was no blueprint at the time on how u shift 5 mil records, rappers made music, pacs just happened to make better music which was felt by more people...its as simple as that