Why Did PAC Beef With NAS and JAY?

[rapmastermind]

yeah i know lol..

well thatz cuz tupac died 2 soon fa that shit 2 really take effect if tupac wouldve lived 2 c 97 i think history would b very different therrr is no way bad boy wouldve ran shit n 97 wit pac alive...

tru his career was tupac sayin "CHINO XL FUUK U 2" lol

Well that's not reality, the reality is Pac died and everyone except Chino XL that he dissed on Hit Em Up's career's basically took off including Lil Kim and Puffy who were just getting started as rappers when they got dissed by Pac and "Life After Death" with Biggie beind gone and not able to promote it and do more videos like Pac got to for his Double LP managed to outsell "All Eyes On me" domestically and worldwide. Like I said, it's a Classic diss nobody can dispute that it was basically ether before "Ether" but what effect did it have on the careers in quesiton? Mobb Deep got there 1st Platinum album after "Hit Em Up". Diddy, Biggie and Mase moved over 20 Million albums after "Hit Em Up". If the Diss really had an effect none of these artist would of moved units. People need to stop over-rating it, all it was, was Pac "Shit talking" on wax, it did nothing to anyone's careers but Chino which was weak career already.

 

[thecomebacklegend]

where r they now since pac classic hit em up

p went on a pocketbook snatching spree until he got booked

big got murked

lil kim fucked her self up even more when she got all the plastic surgery

lil cease snitching

yeah these niggas still had a career after hit em up........... fuck outta here

 

[Llahsram]

where r they now since pac classic hit em up

p went on a pocketbook snatching spree until he got booked

big got murked

lil kim fucked her self up even more when she got all the plastic surgery

lil cease snitching

yeah these niggas still had a career after hit em up........... fuck outta here

None of that was a result of Hit 'Em Up.

 

[gee757]

Well that's not reality, the reality is Pac died and everyone except Chino XL that he dissed on Hit Em Up's career's basically took off including Lil Kim and Puffy who were just getting started as rappers when they got dissed by Pac and "Life After Death" with Biggie beind gone and not able to promote it and do more videos like Pac got to for his Double LP managed to outsell "All Eyes On me" domestically and worldwide. Like I said, it's a Classic diss nobody can dispute that it was basically ether before "Ether" but what effect did it have on the careers in quesiton? Mobb Deep got there 1st Platinum album after "Hit Em Up". Diddy, Biggie and Mase moved over 20 Million albums after "Hit Em Up". If the Diss really had an effect none of these artist would of moved units. People need to stop over-rating it, all it was, was Pac "Shit talking" on wax, it did nothing to anyone's careers but Chino which was weak career already.

okay but if pac wouldve lived 2 c 97 i think hit em up wouldve had mo of a effect on da people he was dissin careerz BUT again pac died 2 early so da majority of da people pac was shittin on still was able 2 have they careerz but if pac was still breathin n 97 thangz wouldve been different...

 

[jonathand]

Doesn't matter. Lyrically, both Jay and Nas would rap circles around Mr. Henneseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey/Enemieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees.

 

[rapmastermind]

where r they now since pac classic hit em up

p went on a pocketbook snatching spree until he got booked

big got murked

lil kim fucked her self up even more when she got all the plastic surgery

lil cease snitching

yeah these niggas still had a career after hit em up........... fuck outta here

Mobb Deep ended up selling Millions after Hit Em Up

Lil Kim ended up selling Millions after Hit Em Up and won a Grammy (Biggie's Discipe)

Jay Z runs Hip Hop after Hit Em Up and is one of the highest selling rappers ever (Biggie's Disciple)

Puffy still on Forbes every year since Hit Em Up (Where's Suge? Matter of fact where's Death Row? Oh Yea, sold and bankrupt)

Biggie LAD outsold Pac's All Eyes On Me (FACT)

Yes Big got killed cuz the haters knew they couldn't stop him from controling the game so they murked him. To imply that Hit Em Up caused their careers to fall is laughable.

 

[gee757]

Doesn't matter. Lyrically, both Jay and Nas would rap circles around Mr. Henneseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey/Enemieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees.

lol plz thatz y when pac was shittin on them they aint say shit!

 

[nycest_1]

he felt nas was biting his style, before pac there was no solo rapper rapping about politics and being a thug

when dr dre ran away, and nas collobs with him on the album, and the fake thug no love shit, the tattoo across the belly, the shot 5 times story etc

pac felt nas was having a dig at him while jumping on his style...but nas was inspired by pac.

deep down pac respected nas, thats why he labeled him the ring leader, he saw him as a threat and i'm happy they squashed the beef...pac owed nas that

also pac thought nas was bigs man, but truth be told big never liked nas

KRS ONE was doin it for years

nothing new there

 

[MR.CJ]

okay but if pac wouldve lived 2 c 97 i think hit em up wouldve had mo of a effect on da people he was dissin careerz BUT again pac died 2 early so da majority of da people pac was shittin on still was able 2 have they careerz but if pac was still breathin n 97 thangz wouldve been different...

cosign.....

 

[jonathand]

lol plz thatz y when pac was shittin on them they aint say shit!

Pac was that dude no doubt. I still can fathom why niggaz didn't go in on his mediocre rapping ass...

 

[MR.CJ]

Doesn't matter. Lyrically, both Jay and Nas would rap circles around Mr. Henneseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey/Enemieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees.

i doubt it

 

[MR.CJ]

Pac was that dude no doubt. I still can fathom why niggaz didn't go in on his mediocre rapping ass...

they were shook. lol

 

[jonathand]

i doubt it

Are you insane? Pac was extremely mediocre lyrically. Come on fam. Even the biggest Pac groupie knows this.

 

[thesynthesis]

Pac was that dude no doubt. I still can fathom why niggaz didn't go in on his mediocre rapping ass...

hit'em up wasnt even a diss record, pac raped half a verse, and talked for 20 mins at the end....and he still made them heated...

now if he had spent time writing a real diss, he'd have kilt them worse than hit'em up

 

[nycest_1]

Mobb Deep ended up selling Millions after Hit Em Up
Lil Kim ended up selling Millions after Hit Em Up and won a Grammy (Biggie's Discipe)
Jay Z runs Hip Hop after Hit Em Up and is one of the highest selling rappers ever (Biggie's Disciple)
Puffy still on Forbes every year since Hit Em Up (Where's Suge? Matter of fact where's Death Row? Oh Yea, sold and bankrupt)
Biggie LAD outsold Pac's All Eyes On Me (FACT)

Yes Big got killed cuz the haters knew they couldn't stop him from controling the game so they murked him. To imply that Hit Em Up caused their careers to fall is laughable.

thats checkmate right there
tupac fans got a real delusional view on things
lets take a look at the people involved in hit em up though
tupac is dead with a nice lil legacy
the outlawz failed at damn near everything including life for a few of em
death row folded
suge knight is irrelevant outside of getting punched in the face

 

[rapmastermind]

okay but if pac wouldve lived 2 c 97 i think hit em up wouldve had mo of a effect on da people he was dissin careerz BUT again pac died 2 early so da majority of da people pac was shittin on still was able 2 have they careerz but if pac was still breathin n 97 thangz wouldve been different...

I can play this game too, Well if Biggie survived L.A., "Life After Death" would of sold Thriller numbers and Bad Boy's reign would of went even longer. We can play the "What if" Game all day, the Reality is "Hit Em Up" dropped and a year later, everyone except Chino XL managed to have Platinum albums, LOL yea that Diss really shut them all down.

 

[jonathand]

hit'em up wasnt even a diss record, pac raped half a verse, and talked for 20 mins at the end....and he still made them heated...

now if he had spent time writing a real diss, he'd have kilt them worse than hit'em up

So Pac was suppose to all of a sudden transform into a lyrical rapper? Something he was never known for? If you say so...

 

[thecomebacklegend]

None of that was a result of Hit 'Em Up.

yes it was

why p had 2 snatch pocketbooks 4 a living?cause he was not eating after hit em up

why lil kim get all that plastic surgery?after "Quick to snatch yo' ugly ass off the streets" in hit em up

why lil cease start snitching?cause after he seen how big handle beef by hiding like a bitch lil cease had 2 resort 2 being a bitch nigga after hit em up

 

[MR.CJ]

Are you insane? Pac was extremely mediocre lyrically. Come on fam. Even the biggest Pac groupie knows this.

i guess....

 

[gee757]

I can play this game too, Well if Biggie survived L.A., "Life After Death" would of sold Thriller numbers and Bad Boy's reign would of went even longer. We can play the "What if" Game all day, the Reality is "Hit Em Up" dropped and a year later, everyone except Chino XL managed to have Platinum albums, LOL yea that Diss really shut them all down.

lol well i neva said hit em up shut everybodiez careerz down besidez chino xl...