who's owed more? natives for stolen land or blacks for forced free labor?

[5th Letter]

Indians been getting reparations for years, black people have yet to receive anything..

 

[2stepz_ahead]

Indians been getting reparations for years, black people have yet to receive anything..

follow the title bruh...

it's not about who's getting what...its about who's owed what.

if natives are owed 2 billion just because they was pain 209 mil...there debt was still 2bill

get my point

 

[5th Letter]

Indians been getting reparations for years, black people have yet to receive anything..

follow the title bruh...

it's not about who's getting what...its about who's owed what.

if natives are owed 2 billion just because they was pain 209 mil...there debt was still 2bill

get my point

I get what the title means. And I did answer the question. Black people are owed more because black people haven't gotten anything. Whereas Indians have already been receiving resources. I don't know how else to explain it.

 

[blackgod813]

Indians been getting reparations for years, black people have yet to receive anything..

follow the title bruh...

it's not about who's getting what...its about who's owed what.

if natives are owed 2 billion just because they was pain 209 mil...there debt was still 2bill

get my point

I get what the title means. And I did answer the question. Black people are owed more because black people haven't gotten anything. Whereas Indians have already been receiving resources. I don't know how else to explain it.

He mean from the start pretend natives didnt get anything now tally it

 

[blackgod813]

Cant put a number on hell they had we had hell but ours lasted for longer

 

[5th Letter]

Indians been getting reparations for years, black people have yet to receive anything..

follow the title bruh...

it's not about who's getting what...its about who's owed what.

if natives are owed 2 billion just because they was pain 209 mil...there debt was still 2bill

get my point

I get what the title means. And I did answer the question. Black people are owed more because black people haven't gotten anything. Whereas Indians have already been receiving resources. I don't know how else to explain it.

He mean from the start pretend natives didnt get anything now tally it

Too bad we can't pretend they didn't get anything.

 

[playmaker88]

why?.. (rhetorical)

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Indians been getting reparations for years, black people have yet to receive anything..

follow the title bruh...

it's not about who's getting what...its about who's owed what.

if natives are owed 2 billion just because they was pain 209 mil...there debt was still 2bill

get my point

I get what the title means. And I did answer the question. Black people are owed more because black people haven't gotten anything. Whereas Indians have already been receiving resources. I don't know how else to explain it.

You still don't seem to understand what he's saying. Let's put numbers to it. Say the Natives are owed 2 billion and have gotten 500 million, they are still owed 1.5 billion. Say blacks are owed 1 billion and haven't received anything. That means they are still owed 1 billion, and that's still less than the Natives.

I'm not saying that's right, but that's the logic of his argument and your stance doesn't really address that.

On topic, I'd say blacks are owed more. The thing about is that we like to say America stole the land from the Natives, and to some extent they it did. However, it's not really that simple. First, the Natives didn't really have the same concept of land ownership that America does. Think about it, the settlers came here with no claim to the land but still set up communities. No one refers to that as stealing because no one really had a problem with it, not even a lot of the Natives at the time. Then when America expanded, it actually went to war with the various Native tribes and won. Like it or not, that's how the world has always worked. To the winner goes the spoils. America was wrong for the way it did the Natives, but technically it doesn't really owe them anything. The lost.

However, when it comes to slavery, America has officially admitted that slavery was wrong. If the country has taken the official stance that slavery was wrong, then there should be some restitution for the wronged party. So America, quite literally does owe the descendants of slaves.

 

[gns]

Negros win the 'who got it worse' Olympics 10 outta 10 times

Even in the holocaust we some how found a way to get our ass killed over shit we aint een involved in

Aint no kikes suffered during slavery

And indians had slaves themselves(so did other niggaz but u get my point)

 

[northside7]

Blacks.

North and South America and the carribean islands. European empires and nations. All built on the backs of African men, women and children.

 

[fortyacres]

why would you compare historical genocides ? thats silly

 

[2stepz_ahead]

why would you compare historical genocides ? thats silly

is it really?

I guess you skipped Jew class.

they bring the shit up over anything..

but niggas must keep silent?

not even a discussion?

*in trump voice*

sad

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Negros win the 'who got it worse' Olympics 10 outta 10 times

Even in the holocaust we some how found a way to get our ass killed over shit we aint een involved in

Aint no kikes suffered during slavery

And indians had slaves themselves(so did other niggaz but u get my point)

I don't think any of the Natives had a system of Chattel slavery though just to be clear. So the Native slavery and American slavery aren't really comparable.

 

[CapitalB]

niggas got this by a long shot..

the "pain and suffering" by itself is more then what the Natives are owed..

we aint go even get on the labor..

 

[Crude_]

Objectively speaking this is very subjective depending on whom you're asking.

The Natives were done pretty damn dirty too and they were nearly eradicated by the disease and warfare the Europeans brought.

We as Black folks suffered for a much longer sustained period and we are still almost universally looked down on and discriminated against by other races even though we are mostly superior to all of them despite being smaller in numbers.

I won't say which was worse because both were terrible times in this country's history but I will say that both atrocities speak volumes about the Europeans and their humanity.

 

[2stepz_ahead]

Objectively speaking this is very subjective depending on whom you're asking.

The Natives were done pretty damn dirty too and they were nearly eradicated by the disease and warfare the Europeans brought.

We as Black folks suffered for a much longer sustained period and we are still almost universally looked down on and discriminated against by other races even though we are mostly superior to all of them despite being smaller in numbers.

I won't say which was worse because both were terrible times in this country's history but I will say that both atrocities speak volumes about the Europeans and their humanity.

good post ..

but it's not about who had it worse...it's about who would be owed more between stolen land or free forced labor

 

[gns]

Negros win the 'who got it worse' Olympics 10 outta 10 times

Even in the holocaust we some how found a way to get our ass killed over shit we aint een involved in

Aint no kikes suffered during slavery

And indians had slaves themselves(so did other niggaz but u get my point)

I don't think any of the Natives had a system of Chattel slavery though just to be clear. So the Native slavery and American slavery aren't really comparable.

U aint injun

U aint know how they treated us

Shut up

 

[fortyacres]

why would you compare historical genocides ? thats silly

is it really?

I guess you skipped Jew class.

they bring the shit up over anything..

but niggas must keep silent?

not even a discussion?

*in trump voice*

sad

Its silly from them (jews) and its silly from you

you get nowhere by comparing tragedies. You can make a strong intelligent argument on what kind of reparations should or would African Americans receive without talking about other minority groups, its weak and counter productive.

 

[Olorun22]

Native are owned more because it's their land and their numbers are low.

Black people are all over the world and we have a chance to turn it around but for the native they're done.

They can never recover

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Negros win the 'who got it worse' Olympics 10 outta 10 times

Even in the holocaust we some how found a way to get our ass killed over shit we aint een involved in

Aint no kikes suffered during slavery

And indians had slaves themselves(so did other niggaz but u get my point)

I don't think any of the Natives had a system of Chattel slavery though just to be clear. So the Native slavery and American slavery aren't really comparable.

U aint injun

U aint know how they treated us

Shut up

No but other people are injuns and know how they treated us and wrote books. Try picking up one from time to time.