Who was the more dominant player? Jerry Rice or Michael Jordan?

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coop9889;9246525 said:
I think we have to separate dominance at their position vs dominance as a player. For example...

The difference in history between Jerry Rice vs. Receiver #2 is larger than the difference between Jordan and SG #2 (probably Kobe)

But while most people say Jordan is the GOAT NBA player, most people wouldn't say Rice is the GOAT NFL player. So it is kinda hard to discuss dominance over the league when a WR inherently have the impact that a wing player does in the NBA.

Rice was voted the best nfl player of all time though.
 
Shizlansky;9246552 said:
coop9889;9246525 said:
I think we have to separate dominance at their position vs dominance as a player. For example...

The difference in history between Jerry Rice vs. Receiver #2 is larger than the difference between Jordan and SG #2 (probably Kobe)

But while most people say Jordan is the GOAT NBA player, most people wouldn't say Rice is the GOAT NFL player. So it is kinda hard to discuss dominance over the league when a WR inherently have the impact that a wing player does in the NBA.

Rice was voted the best nfl player of all time though.

By what poll?

And I highly doubt that represents general consensus... I've never heard anyone in my personal life say Rice was the best player of all time. That is usually reserved for a QB simply because of the greater impact on the game.
 
coop9889;9246525 said:
I think we have to separate dominance at their position vs dominance as a player. For example...

The difference in history between Jerry Rice vs. Receiver #2 is larger than the difference between Jordan and SG #2 (probably Kobe)

But while most people say Jordan is the GOAT NBA player, most people wouldn't say Rice is the GOAT NFL player. So it is kinda hard to discuss dominance over the league when a WR inherently have the impact that a wing player does in the NBA.

Valid points. Thanks for making points instead of saying random bullshit like others in here have...talking about Rice like he was really good but not great.

I think a lot of people would give Rice the GOAT football player, but you're right, a lower percentage than what Jordan would get.

But I think we should acknowledge.some other factors. Basketball fans damn near only acknowledge the 80's and 90's. They say everything before doesn't count because there was no competition, and everything after they turn into their grandpa and start with that "back in the my day the league wasn't soft like this" shit. Rice will be compared to people as old as Jim Brown, and everyone since.

Finally Lebron is taking over MJ's GOAT spot. You may not think so, but you're on your way to being the old head that says Kareem/Wilt/Russell is the GOAT now, but nobody listens to him. These 12 year olds, in 10 years are going to call Bron the GOAT and back it up with facts and they eye test. Jerry doesn't have a LeBron right now.
 
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lamontbdc;9238276 said:
This kinda dumb ass question b/c Rice's production was largely based on 6 other guys doing their jobs before he could do his. If the qb and 5 lineman ain't worth shit then Rice isn't as production. Where as Jordan could take the ball and do whatever.

exactly what I was gonna say...

one is a choice the other controls the choice

Agree w all this...even a QB needs to depend on someone catching the ball..unless he gon run all the time...noone took over a game like MJ

 
natural born sinners;9247726 said:
2stepz_ahead;9238406 said:
lamontbdc;9238276 said:
This kinda dumb ass question b/c Rice's production was largely based on 6 other guys doing their jobs before he could do his. If the qb and 5 lineman ain't worth shit then Rice isn't as production. Where as Jordan could take the ball and do whatever.

exactly what I was gonna say...

one is a choice the other controls the choice

Agree w all this...even a QB needs to depend on someone catching the ball..unless he gon run all the time...noone took over a game like MJ

So players in team sports, can't be as dominant as athletes in individual sports?
 

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