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CashmoneyDux;5613815 said:What happened to Darkchild and Jazze Pha?
BlackGerald;5605594 said:Heatmakers
CeLLaR-DooR;5605619 said:Would say Swizz. But I'm not sure he's overrated. He's never mentioned in GOAT discussions.
Maybe Dilla. he's dope as fuck and all, but I hate the 'Dilla saved my life' niggas and hoes who kno' nothin' about hip-hop but think they're aficionados coz they kno' bout him.
And 9th Wonder. Nigga been makin' the same beat for 12 years
s2jepeka;5612800 said:plocc;5605942 said:Puffy. It always blew my mind when people mentioned him as a producer.
Whoa..whoa..whoa...
Puff basically has a team of producers who make beats for him, then he comes in and 'sprinkles his magic', then credits it to himself (via Hitmen)
Well, if that makes him overrated...
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This ngga been doin that for the last 10 years. Google Mike Elizondo, Denauan Porter.
Cigarello Slim;5614652 said:Swizz Beats he had some bangers in his Double R days, but that "Showtime!!" "Put Ya Hands Up Now!!!!" on every hook is annoying as fuck.
s2jepeka;5614794 said:When people say Dre is overrated, some people get on the defensive like we sayin he ass
All it means is the credit he gets>>>>>>>>>>his ACTUAL production, primarily after Chronic 2001
For example, Dre only only made the beat for 4 or 5 songs on Gret Rich or Die Tryin & Documentary, albums that nggas seem to think he wholely produced.
And if u wanna say 'it aint all about the beat, he directs the music blah blah blah...Well in that case Puff, Jermaine Dupri, Jayz have all executive produced also. But we dont think to give them credit for it
rip.dilla;5615143 said:Alright this thread like I think the T/S intended has begun to bring out some little emotions in some posters
I personally don't think any 'Producer' is overrated unless you rate him by any standard. It all goes back to listening to shit YOU like and trusting your own judgement concerning HipHop music . .
With that been said a couple of cats named here (Dre, Puffy and KanYe) are more or less half a producer IMO because they have not mastered the art of playing musical instruments. Some of their best music has been co-produced . .
There's a Just Blaze appreciation page currently on the first page. If you ask me, I think he's the BEST HipHop producer right now
He's a DJ (brilliant on the 1s & 2s and can get your party started), he has mastered the beat box/drum machine, he plays live instruments (keys and drums), he's a conductor (see 'Lord Knows') and finally incredibly versatile.
For Jay Elect, he gave us 'Exhibit A'; super sonic sounding shit. 'Exhibit C'; he gave us some soul food . .
Sorry for the titanagraph