Who is the biggest "crab in a barrel" in Hip Hop?

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soul rattler;c-9921803 said:
trendsetta1030;c-9921780 said:
Cutler 26 INT's LOL!;c-9921584 said:
Its definitely 50. Starting a beef with Fat Joe and Jadakiss cause they hopped on a song with Ja Rule

They was sneak dissin… read between tha lines

Not even 50 said this. He admitted he dissed them because they were a friend of his enemy.

Stop making up shit

Did some investigatin an he ain't sell shot-fat joe

Jada said something about dying an still in the hood

Either way I dgaf bout ny music ya mfs irrelivent in 2017 that's why all ya can bring up is these old rappers
 
I got love for Jay, but 'D.O.A.' and 'The Story of OJ' were both blatant shots at popular black culture/music at the time. I didn't like that T-Pain had to suffer due to D.O.A. I know he's trying to have a mature message, viewpoint, but he should be able to recognize that he's got a powerful impact that may have negative circumstances for other trying to get money. T-Pain aint been the same since...
 
50 refined his Crab mentality under the tutelage of Dre and being Envious of Jay between the three you have the Holy trinity of Crabs in a Bucket Dre(Father) 50(Son) Jay(the Jigga Ghost)
 
SolemnSauce;c-9920983 said:
50 never chop a nigga down at the knees that didn't ask for it to happen in some kinda way..he just chop harder than the initial issue, so the reaction seem worst than the action

I'd say that's Dre and or Jay

Dem niggaz known to take credit and tell the person who deserves the credit to take the L if they want to do business later on

Then if or when that person ain't wit that..they've black balled by them

The more I think about it It's gotta be Dre or Puff. How many people thought they were gonna put them on only to get shelved and for their music to never see the light of day. The biggest crabs are the execs that hold others back.
 
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TheGOAT;c-9921192 said:
SolemnSauce;c-9920983 said:
50 never chop a nigga down at the knees that didn't ask for it to happen in some kinda way..he just chop harder than the initial issue, so the reaction seem worst than the action

I'd say that's Dre and or Jay

Dem niggaz known to take credit and tell the person who deserves the credit to take the L if they want to do business later on

Then if or when that person ain't wit that..they've black balled by them

Gonna need some facts to back all that up

Dre has been known to take a track someone else made. Change one or two things, and put produced by Dr. Dre in the credits

Ignition wit R.Kelly had a remix already with Jadakiss. Jay jumped on it and flex his industry muscle to get radio stations to only play his version wit R.Kelly

That's not the only time Jay jerked kiss outta a hit commercial track

 
double0suge;c-9920999 said:
SolemnSauce;c-9920983 said:
50 never chop a nigga down at the knees that didn't ask for it to happen in some kinda way..he just chop harder than the initial issue, so the reaction seem worst than the action

I'd say that's Dre and or Jay

Dem niggaz known to take credit and tell the person who deserves the credit to take the L if they want to do business later on

Then if or when that person ain't wit that..they've black balled by them

But he had no issue with fat Joe or Jada

50 had just went hard body at Jrule and everyone was waitin for Ja's response

His first commercial record in retaliation was im from NY.

In which Kiss spit-word that niggaz wanna merk u is in the air

In which Joe spit-everybody talkin how the AK spit, but we did some investigation and they ain't spray shit

In which Ja spit-take off them silly chains and put back on ya wire..ima on fiiiiyah ( this after banks first commercial success "on fire"

Shots or not by Kiss and Joe..direct shots by Ja

With 50's energy he's puttin out as the bad guy, the bully

You can not let that slide as ..oh they wasn't talking bout me, only Ja

The average fan ain't smart enough to make that conclusion

And kiss and joe can't act like they ain't know that

So they asked for it, indirectly
 
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SolemnSauce;c-9922137 said:
TheGOAT;c-9921192 said:
SolemnSauce;c-9920983 said:
50 never chop a nigga down at the knees that didn't ask for it to happen in some kinda way..he just chop harder than the initial issue, so the reaction seem worst than the action

I'd say that's Dre and or Jay

Dem niggaz known to take credit and tell the person who deserves the credit to take the L if they want to do business later on

Then if or when that person ain't wit that..they've black balled by them

Gonna need some facts to back all that up

Dre has been known to take a track someone else made. Change one or two things, and put produced by Dr. Dre in the credits

This has only been said by Daz and then even Snoop said Daz need to shut his lyin ass up.

And if u talkin Scott Storch he said he provided the piano keys on Still Dre but then Dre built the track around that.
 
SolemnSauce;c-9922137 said:
TheGOAT;c-9921192 said:
SolemnSauce;c-9920983 said:
50 never chop a nigga down at the knees that didn't ask for it to happen in some kinda way..he just chop harder than the initial issue, so the reaction seem worst than the action

I'd say that's Dre and or Jay

Dem niggaz known to take credit and tell the person who deserves the credit to take the L if they want to do business later on

Then if or when that person ain't wit that..they've black balled by them

Gonna need some facts to back all that up

Dre has been known to take a track someone else made. Change one or two things, and put produced by Dr. Dre in the credits

Ignition wit R.Kelly had a remix already with Jadakiss. Jay jumped on it and flex his industry muscle to get radio stations to only play his version wit R.Kelly

That's not the only time Jay jerked kiss outta a hit commercial track

You mean "Fiesta".
 
CoolJoe;c-9922229 said:
SolemnSauce;c-9922137 said:
TheGOAT;c-9921192 said:
SolemnSauce;c-9920983 said:
50 never chop a nigga down at the knees that didn't ask for it to happen in some kinda way..he just chop harder than the initial issue, so the reaction seem worst than the action

I'd say that's Dre and or Jay

Dem niggaz known to take credit and tell the person who deserves the credit to take the L if they want to do business later on

Then if or when that person ain't wit that..they've black balled by them

Gonna need some facts to back all that up

Dre has been known to take a track someone else made. Change one or two things, and put produced by Dr. Dre in the credits

Ignition wit R.Kelly had a remix already with Jadakiss. Jay jumped on it and flex his industry muscle to get radio stations to only play his version wit R.Kelly

That's not the only time Jay jerked kiss outta a hit commercial track

You mean "Fiesta".

Whateva..didn't care enough
 
pachá12;c-9921961 said:
I got love for Jay, but 'D.O.A.' and 'The Story of OJ' were both blatant shots at popular black culture/music at the time. I didn't like that T-Pain had to suffer due to D.O.A. I know he's trying to have a mature message, viewpoint, but he should be able to recognize that he's got a powerful impact that may have negative circumstances for other trying to get money. T-Pain aint been the same since...

DOA was literally about everybody EXCEPT T-Pain.

He said "You T-Paining too much." The person that should've been happy about that song was the guy whose style was being run into the ground by every rapper and singer looking for a hit single.

If everybody started copying Michael Jackson, and I said "stop copying Michael Jackson ", that's not telling Michael Jackson to stop being himself. That's telling everyone else to stop being him.

I don't know why after all these years, that's still so hard to understand.
 
Joe Budden. I'm a fan but he holding slaughterhouse back with his midlife crisis(plural) and acting like a Prima donna. He literally has stereotypical lead singer in a movie behavior and he's not even the nicest in the group imo
 
SolemnSauce;c-9922137 said:
TheGOAT;c-9921192 said:
SolemnSauce;c-9920983 said:
50 never chop a nigga down at the knees that didn't ask for it to happen in some kinda way..he just chop harder than the initial issue, so the reaction seem worst than the action

I'd say that's Dre and or Jay

Dem niggaz known to take credit and tell the person who deserves the credit to take the L if they want to do business later on

Then if or when that person ain't wit that..they've black balled by them

Gonna need some facts to back all that up

Dre has been known to take a track someone else made. Change one or two things, and put produced by Dr. Dre in the credits

Ignition wit R.Kelly had a remix already with Jadakiss. Jay jumped on it and flex his industry muscle to get radio stations to only play his version wit R.Kelly

That's not the only time Jay jerked kiss outta a hit commercial track

It wasn't Ignition, it was Fiesta.

And are we calling foul on anybody who gets on a remix for it being more popular than the original?
 
soul rattler;c-9922327 said:
SolemnSauce;c-9922137 said:
TheGOAT;c-9921192 said:
SolemnSauce;c-9920983 said:
50 never chop a nigga down at the knees that didn't ask for it to happen in some kinda way..he just chop harder than the initial issue, so the reaction seem worst than the action

I'd say that's Dre and or Jay

Dem niggaz known to take credit and tell the person who deserves the credit to take the L if they want to do business later on

Then if or when that person ain't wit that..they've black balled by them

Gonna need some facts to back all that up

Dre has been known to take a track someone else made. Change one or two things, and put produced by Dr. Dre in the credits

Ignition wit R.Kelly had a remix already with Jadakiss. Jay jumped on it and flex his industry muscle to get radio stations to only play his version wit R.Kelly

That's not the only time Jay jerked kiss outta a hit commercial track

It wasn't Ignition, it was Fiesta.

And are we calling foul on anybody who gets on a remix for it being more popular than the original?

Callin a foul on niggaz who remix a remix
 
TheGOAT;c-9922152 said:
SolemnSauce;c-9922137 said:
TheGOAT;c-9921192 said:
SolemnSauce;c-9920983 said:
50 never chop a nigga down at the knees that didn't ask for it to happen in some kinda way..he just chop harder than the initial issue, so the reaction seem worst than the action

I'd say that's Dre and or Jay

Dem niggaz known to take credit and tell the person who deserves the credit to take the L if they want to do business later on

Then if or when that person ain't wit that..they've black balled by them

Gonna need some facts to back all that up

Dre has been known to take a track someone else made. Change one or two things, and put produced by Dr. Dre in the credits

This has only been said by Daz and then even Snoop said Daz need to shut his lyin ass up.

And if u talkin Scott Storch he said he provided the piano keys on Still Dre but then Dre built the track around that.

Naw Warren G signed to Def Jam and had some sideways comments that Kats knew were at his brother taking credit Daz, Said It, Chris Taylor refused to comment back in the day either way knowing how the Blackball shit works with Dre even before Pac put it out publicly it was a known thing in the industry that Dre ended up being a stamp and sometimes not actually even changing or adding anything other than the artist on the beat but still getting credit for what various other producer(beat makers)did. Melman, Emanuel Dean and a bunch of others have spoke up and than retracted due to the blackballing coming down from Dre Via Jimmy. Quik put a diss track out about the issue because Dre tried to get credit for some of his Deathrow shit but failed because he was vocal and credible... Snoop explained it away as Quincy Jones and other greats do not actually make the song they just refine what others do and in that sense Dre is a dope producer as he has the ear for a hit and knows how to attach his name to those hits...



 
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