Who Do You Think Made The Bigger Impact Of Their Own Genre: Kurt Cobain or Tupac Shakur

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Don't yall hate it when someone love hearing themselves talk that they're so convinced of their fallible views to the point that they try their damnedest to convinced you to believe the illogical bullshit they're saying ???

Everyone.....meet jono smdh
 
Tommy bilfiger;4590517 said:
Kurt Kobain has a statue too

I recall pac groupies tryna argue that pac was bigger than michael jackson last year so we know how delusional u people are

And jono bodied this thread funny how pacs albums never debuted at #1 until he started coonin and actin dumb,nigga had to change his whole persona up to get noticed musically

in his hometown

pac got 2 from places he is not from

 
Hey jono, at least you're not as bad as Tommy, we don't know when this goof troop is either tolling or being dead serious

Least I know you were serious, even if it was poppycocks
 
Lmao @ the irony of your sig

"The sun is gone, but I have light....and that light is from a 12guage mossberg pump....BOOOOOM!!!" - Kurt BlowedBrains

 
H-Rap 180;4579070 said:
Didn't Cobain body hisself?

He ate a Shotgun which is a bitch move, and his music was depressing.

Courtney Love had Kurt Cobain murdered... Do your research!!!

Also, Nirvana brought an entire genre (Grunge) into the mainstream, so yes, he was way more impactful to Rock than Pac was to Hip Hop...
 
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Tupac was imperfect and that made him real. In an age where everyone is trying to look perfect, act perfect, and be perfect, Tupac Shakur always kept it real. He knew that he had imperfections and he was proud of them as they made him what he the unique and special person that he was. He was, like many other young black men in the hood, "The Rose that Grew From Concrete".

“I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world.” - Tupac Shakur

 
jono;4590160 said:
Strictly For my Niggaz was pretty much made in the same vein as 2Pacalypse Now which is why I glossed over it. Its another hip-hop album but it still mostly featured social commentary. If you've ever listened to the whole album the hit single "I Get Around" sticks out like a sore thumb, its VERY different that the rest of the album. He hadn't really moved from hip-hop to gangsta rap.

Thug Life Vol 1 had very little impact outside of a couple tracks. Besides it was a group effort, it wasn't a solo 2Pac record it was a side project to get his homies on. Arguably its a gangsta rap album but like I said its a group album. If it IS then he made his first "gangsta rap" album in 1994...3 years after his debut.

Now on to criticisms of me:

I never said Illmatic was financially successful, everybody knows it wasn't. But it was CRITICALLY ACCLAIMED and as an MC that's always the most important impact you want to have. Illmatic was raw, no chick records, no real hype other than the MC was dope as fuck, he sold nothing with that and its still considered the best hip-hop album ever. Record sales don't really mean shit in the long run but how much the label made off a nigga.

"Again if 2pacalypse Now, wasn't on the radar,

why the Vice President of the United States Of

Fucking America Banned His Shit???????"

**It was because of a situation that had nothing to do with 2Pac foreal . A cat claimed a 2pac song made him kill a police officer, of course a politician reacted by trying to get that album banned. The politicians tried getting several albums banned lol... 2Pac wasn't the only one. This controversy also helped boost album sales for 2Pacalypse Now, which we all know controversy creates cash.**

"Strictly 4 My Niggaz= Plat , 3 songs on the bill

board top 100" (movies aren't apart of the discussion we talking strictly music)

It Debuted at #24 which made it more successful that the first album. If your going to talk record sales, the nigga could have at least been #1. Also The Source gave it 2.5 mics....I know that might not mean shit but its funny to see. I'm sure they "re-rated" it later on.

"94'Thug Life Vol. 1 = gold compilation album,

Got some Hood Classics on That."

It was a group album and I couldn't find the chart but I read #42 on Wiki...could be wrong.

He was in prison when Me Against...came out and it debuted at #1.

Its incredibly difficult to find figures that aren't inflated by his death but seeing that album niggas don't even listen to like 2Pacalypse Now & Strictly For My Niggaz are gold & platinum tells me that your using inflated figures. I've read that Strictly....took months to go Gold let alone platinum upon its release.

This is the chart info I found for the albums he made while he was alive:

(1992) 2Pacalypse Now-- #74

(1993) Strictly...--#24

(1994) Thug Life...--#?? (42?)

(1995) Me Against...---#1

(1996) All Eyes...--#1

(1996) Makaveli...--#1

The success of Me Against, All Eyes, & Makaveli can't be denied, he was hot by then. But before that he was "successful" but not THAT dude, like I said before. Being THAT nigga =/= gold or platinum albums. That shit depends on promotion & radio play, not real talent or skills. So the chart info is really only because 2Pac marks love to ramble about his album sales, I personally couldn't care less.

1st off, all i posted, was that Pac had success prior going to deathrow.

he had 2 gold albums and 2 plat albums by the time he was 24.

yes he became colossal while on deathrow. but the nigga had success prior.

also, he was on that gangsta shit waaay before deathrow.

back in the early-mid 90's. aside from Biggie, who was on like 1,000 features on the radio. Snoop, who was on 70% of the chronic. DJ Quik who went Plat, and a few others.

it was rare 4 a rookie solo rap artist, 2 come out the gate hot selling a milli+.

u saw progression. u seen it with Nas, Jay, Pac: 1st album #74, 2nd Album #24, 3rd-5th album #1.

Tommy bilfiger;4590485 said:
Bon scott

Ray Charles

Jimi hendrix

Elton john

Bob Marley

Elvis

Otis Redding

Miles Davis

Jim morrison

John Lennon

James Brown

The Beatles

Michael Jackson

^All have statues,step your knowledge up

that pac statue in atlanta was funded by his mother btw

okay....

u acting like u just listed nobodies . all your saying is,that Pac is up there with the all time greats

 
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Pac goes down next to the beetles you fags.Come on nigga.Homey went diamond and shit.This nigga is known around the world.Pac got a fucking school named after him.Dudes music is taught in college.Ya niggas high on crack to compare Pac to Kurt.Pac got his own institution.
 
I should forge a Kurt Cobain signature on a 12gauge pump, and put it on ebay just for kicks.....

Watch how many hurt feelings it cause lmao!!!
 
lol @ the amount of feelings caught because some people choose pac...lames even tried to do the whole "these niggas don't anything outside hip hop" angle..u mad?
 

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