Which DC characters do you think would make it to a top tier/omega mutant in the Marvel Universe?

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evoljeanyes;6179338 said:
Guys are are so sleep on Galactus...because he is a plot device people consider him weak...he just isn't...

Yeah, got to blame the Marvel writers. It's like for a long time their only means of demonstrating a new character or threat's power was to have them beat a weakened Galactus. It's messed up because Galactus was never meant to be used like that. He was to be a supreme power. After all, even when the F4 first got the best of him, it was only because the Watcher told them about the Ultimate Nullifier and the used that to threaten Galactus. And then some idiot comes along and writes a story where they beat him by firing the Thing out of a giant slingshot. Come on, that's just disrespecting a character.

 
The Lonious Monk;6179997 said:
evoljeanyes;6179338 said:
Guys are are so sleep on Galactus...because he is a plot device people consider him weak...he just isn't...

Yeah, got to blame the Marvel writers. It's like for a long time their only means of demonstrating a new character or threat's power was to have them beat a weakened Galactus. It's messed up because Galactus was never meant to be used like that. He was to be a supreme power. After all, even when the F4 first got the best of him, it was only because the Watcher told them about the Ultimate Nullifier and the used that to threaten Galactus. And then some idiot comes along and writes a story where they beat him by firing the Thing out of a giant slingshot. Come on, that's just disrespecting a character.

I have to argue with cats about scarlet witch and legion being above Galactus. Mad Jim Jasper's withhis overrated ass. @darkraiden things there is a version of juggernaut that can beat Galactus.
 
Most reality warpers can't affect the High Level cosmics. I think it was even stated that the Cosmics sensed Scarlet Witch's actions when she got rid of mutants, and ignored it because it was of no concern to them.
 
Galactus is eternity in 616 basically. TOAA, LT, Eternity Galactus oblivion. That's the power houses is canon marvel. There are a couple up there with them but that's the pantheon to me. Jim Jasper's and scarlet witch are peons. Both great characters. But gal would laugh at them both.
 
Mxyzptlk's already extreme power has been enhanced even further in the new 52 (read Grant Morrison's Action Comics arc). It was the basis of the villain of that arc who basically attacked Superman at different periods of his life across all of time and space all at once all the way from the 5th dimension.

The Galactus at the end of Hickman's F4/FF run was indeed the 616 Galactus but the Franklin that made him his herald was a future version of the kid who was waaaaaaaaay older than he currently is in the comic books.
 
evoljeanyes;6180761 said:
The Lonious Monk;6179997 said:
evoljeanyes;6179338 said:
Guys are are so sleep on Galactus...because he is a plot device people consider him weak...he just isn't...

Yeah, got to blame the Marvel writers. It's like for a long time their only means of demonstrating a new character or threat's power was to have them beat a weakened Galactus. It's messed up because Galactus was never meant to be used like that. He was to be a supreme power. After all, even when the F4 first got the best of him, it was only because the Watcher told them about the Ultimate Nullifier and the used that to threaten Galactus. And then some idiot comes along and writes a story where they beat him by firing the Thing out of a giant slingshot. Come on, that's just disrespecting a character.

I have to argue with cats about scarlet witch and legion being above Galactus. Mad Jim Jasper's withhis overrated ass. @darkraiden things there is a version of juggernaut that can beat Galactus.

Legion has the 616 universe in a box b. A wooden box. He's above Galactus.

And Trion juggernaut I think it was, was punching holes in dimensions and shit. Far above Galactus.

Hmmm or was it 8th day Juggernaut? Not sure but one of the Juggernauts that had more of Cyttorak's power.
 
DarkRaiden;6182242 said:
evoljeanyes;6180761 said:
The Lonious Monk;6179997 said:
evoljeanyes;6179338 said:
Guys are are so sleep on Galactus...because he is a plot device people consider him weak...he just isn't...

Yeah, got to blame the Marvel writers. It's like for a long time their only means of demonstrating a new character or threat's power was to have them beat a weakened Galactus. It's messed up because Galactus was never meant to be used like that. He was to be a supreme power. After all, even when the F4 first got the best of him, it was only because the Watcher told them about the Ultimate Nullifier and the used that to threaten Galactus. And then some idiot comes along and writes a story where they beat him by firing the Thing out of a giant slingshot. Come on, that's just disrespecting a character.

I have to argue with cats about scarlet witch and legion being above Galactus. Mad Jim Jasper's withhis overrated ass. @darkraiden things there is a version of juggernaut that can beat Galactus.

Legion has the 616 universe in a box b. A wooden box. He's above Galactus.

And Trion juggernaut I think it was, was punching holes in dimensions and shit. Far above Galactus.

Hmmm or was it 8th day Juggernaut? Not sure but one of the Juggernauts that had more of Cyttorak's power.

You are wrong.
 
DarkRaiden;6182242 said:
evoljeanyes;6180761 said:
The Lonious Monk;6179997 said:
evoljeanyes;6179338 said:
Guys are are so sleep on Galactus...because he is a plot device people consider him weak...he just isn't...

Yeah, got to blame the Marvel writers. It's like for a long time their only means of demonstrating a new character or threat's power was to have them beat a weakened Galactus. It's messed up because Galactus was never meant to be used like that. He was to be a supreme power. After all, even when the F4 first got the best of him, it was only because the Watcher told them about the Ultimate Nullifier and the used that to threaten Galactus. And then some idiot comes along and writes a story where they beat him by firing the Thing out of a giant slingshot. Come on, that's just disrespecting a character.

I have to argue with cats about scarlet witch and legion being above Galactus. Mad Jim Jasper's withhis overrated ass. @darkraiden things there is a version of juggernaut that can beat Galactus.

Legion has the 616 universe in a box b. A wooden box. He's above Galactus.

And Trion juggernaut I think it was, was punching holes in dimensions and shit. Far above Galactus.

Hmmm or was it 8th day Juggernaut? Not sure but one of the Juggernauts that had more of Cyttorak's power.

Cytrorak himself isn't above Galactus. He's just skyfather level, so how is a character with a fraction of his power above Galacuts level? And how does punching holes in dimensions make him far above Galactus when Galactus opens portals and travels between dimensions at will. That's nothing to him. The only think any version of Juggernaut has ever had is great strength and durability. Galactus is a character that has destroyed solar systems with a temper tantrum and galaxies with the runoff from one of his battles. You guys are either grossly overestimating some of these characters or you really don't understand how strong even a average level Galactus truly is.

 
Galactus walked the dog on in-betweener...abraxas had the entire multivers copping pleas. Galactus 616 had this niggas shook able summoned the ultimate null from this man like Thor would do mjolnir. He walked out of deaths realm that bitch said "It would take too much of my energy" nigga can warp anything. His psioncs are cosmic. Nigga is supposed represent eternal life in comics. I think the analogy is Galactus is to the universe as surfer is to his planet. There sacrifices gave them permanence. Gal literally holds abrxas (who represents imbalance) in check all fucking the time. Anyways y'all are sleep on dude.
 
The Lonious Monk;6183378 said:
DarkRaiden;6182242 said:
evoljeanyes;6180761 said:
The Lonious Monk;6179997 said:
evoljeanyes;6179338 said:
Guys are are so sleep on Galactus...because he is a plot device people consider him weak...he just isn't...

Yeah, got to blame the Marvel writers. It's like for a long time their only means of demonstrating a new character or threat's power was to have them beat a weakened Galactus. It's messed up because Galactus was never meant to be used like that. He was to be a supreme power. After all, even when the F4 first got the best of him, it was only because the Watcher told them about the Ultimate Nullifier and the used that to threaten Galactus. And then some idiot comes along and writes a story where they beat him by firing the Thing out of a giant slingshot. Come on, that's just disrespecting a character.

I have to argue with cats about scarlet witch and legion being above Galactus. Mad Jim Jasper's withhis overrated ass. @darkraiden things there is a version of juggernaut that can beat Galactus.

Legion has the 616 universe in a box b. A wooden box. He's above Galactus.

And Trion juggernaut I think it was, was punching holes in dimensions and shit. Far above Galactus.

Hmmm or was it 8th day Juggernaut? Not sure but one of the Juggernauts that had more of Cyttorak's power.

Cytrorak himself isn't above Galactus. He's just skyfather level, so how is a character with a fraction of his power above Galacuts level? And how does punching holes in dimensions make him far above Galactus when Galactus opens portals and travels between dimensions at will. That's nothing to him. The only think any version of Juggernaut has ever had is great strength and durability. Galactus is a character that has destroyed solar systems with a temper tantrum and galaxies with the runoff from one of his battles. You guys are either grossly overestimating some of these characters or you really don't understand how strong even a average level Galactus truly is.

B....most Galactus has shown us, destructively is implied Galaxy busting and solar system busting. Trion Juggernaut punched a hole in a dimension. Just physical strength b. If he hits Galactus or Galactus level beings with that, they're done.

And nah, Cyttorak's far above skyfather and most likely Galactus level while in his realm (which is where he is when Juggernaut gets more of his power). Cyttorak had classic Dr. Strange (who dealt with Galactus easily) copping pleas and unable to escape and Eternity couldn't even help him. Had both dem niggas helpless. And recently Colossus tried to use phoenix on him and it did nothing to him, he stopped Phoenix force from working at all. Cyttorak's a different beast.
 
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Cytorrak isn't more powerful than Galactus, a fully fed one that is. All reality warpers can't effect folks on Galactus' level of power. That's what makes Franklin so unique. As a child he's walking around with celestial level power that he himself keeps in check
 
DarkRaiden;6186362 said:
The Lonious Monk;6183378 said:
DarkRaiden;6182242 said:
evoljeanyes;6180761 said:
The Lonious Monk;6179997 said:
evoljeanyes;6179338 said:
Guys are are so sleep on Galactus...because he is a plot device people consider him weak...he just isn't...

Yeah, got to blame the Marvel writers. It's like for a long time their only means of demonstrating a new character or threat's power was to have them beat a weakened Galactus. It's messed up because Galactus was never meant to be used like that. He was to be a supreme power. After all, even when the F4 first got the best of him, it was only because the Watcher told them about the Ultimate Nullifier and the used that to threaten Galactus. And then some idiot comes along and writes a story where they beat him by firing the Thing out of a giant slingshot. Come on, that's just disrespecting a character.

I have to argue with cats about scarlet witch and legion being above Galactus. Mad Jim Jasper's withhis overrated ass. @darkraiden things there is a version of juggernaut that can beat Galactus.

Legion has the 616 universe in a box b. A wooden box. He's above Galactus.

And Trion juggernaut I think it was, was punching holes in dimensions and shit. Far above Galactus.

Hmmm or was it 8th day Juggernaut? Not sure but one of the Juggernauts that had more of Cyttorak's power.

Cytrorak himself isn't above Galactus. He's just skyfather level, so how is a character with a fraction of his power above Galacuts level? And how does punching holes in dimensions make him far above Galactus when Galactus opens portals and travels between dimensions at will. That's nothing to him. The only think any version of Juggernaut has ever had is great strength and durability. Galactus is a character that has destroyed solar systems with a temper tantrum and galaxies with the runoff from one of his battles. You guys are either grossly overestimating some of these characters or you really don't understand how strong even a average level Galactus truly is.

B....most Galactus has shown us, destructively is implied Galaxy busting and solar system busting. Trion Juggernaut punched a hole in a dimension. Just physical strength b. If he hits Galactus or Galactus level beings with that, they're done.

And nah, Cyttorak's far above skyfather and most likely Galactus level while in his realm (which is where he is when Juggernaut gets more of his power). Cyttorak had classic Dr. Strange (who dealt with Galactus easily) copping pleas and unable to escape and Eternity couldn't even help him. Had both dem niggas helpless. And recently Colossus tried to use phoenix on him and it did nothing to him, he stopped Phoenix force from working at all. Cyttorak's a different beast.

There is no implied galaxy busting. It is flat out stated that the battle he had with Tyrant destroyed multiple galaxies. It's also been stated that the Ultimate Nullifier, a device that can destroy the universe and has rewritten the entire universe, is an aspect of his own power and can be summoned at will for his usage at any time. So it's a flat out fact that if Galactus desired it, he'd be a universe buster. Cyttorak is not fucking with that. And all Demon Lords are more powerful in their realms. Galactus went toe to toe in Mephisto's own realm and when the fight didn't go fast enough for him, he just started eating the realm. He could do the same thing to Cyttorak.

And classic Dr. Strange is DEM personified, so that's a horrible example. Yeah he beat Galactus by making Galactus feel the pain of all the people he's ever killed. Ok, guess what, he's also beaten Dormammu and Shuma Gorath multiple times too. Are you going to sit here and act like Cyttorak is above Shuma?

And seriously lol @ Juggernaut punching Galactus. Are you serious? How exactly is he supposed to even get close enough to do that before he's teleported into a supermassive blackhole somewhere? Ya'll cats are being ridiculous now. Either that or like I said, you don't really understand how powerful Galactus is when not jobbing for story purposes. Just think about all the shit that Surfer can do and realize that even in a weakened state Galactus is thousands of times more powerful that Surfer.

Hell, we've already seen what it took to kill Galactus: millions of starships, the Avengers, the Shiar Royal guard, Surfer, Galactus' machines sabotaged so they were draining his energy instead of feeding him, and him wanting to die. Even then, it wasn't enough to truly kill him. He was just put in stasis.

jaxn;6187482 said:
All reality warpers can't effect folks on Galactus' level of power. That's what makes Franklin so unique. As a child he's walking around with celestial level power that he himself keeps in check

That's not completely true. While it's true reality warpers can affect Galactus and probably the other Abstracts too. It's a stretch to say they can do everything to them that they can do to lower beings. Franklin could probably turn Wolverine into a carrot if he wanted. He can't do that to Galactus. As a matter of fact, I can't remember, but there was a story where someone tried to blink Galactus out of existence, and he just came right back.
 
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Galactus can not be warped at all. @the lonious monk bruh thank god you showed up I'm tired of being the only one riding for Galactus.
 
Well to be fair to the people arguing against him, it's the Marvel writers and the dumb way they use him that make him look weak. At least he's getting some shine in his miniseries. That will be crazy if he comes back to the 616 universe still merged with the Gah Lak Tus swarm.
 

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