Whats Your Thoughts On Abortion?

[Ajackson17]

No one discussed abstinence? Self control should be more preached in the culture well any culture.

Heavy emphasis of abstinence has never worked to deter pregnancy and disease. In fact, states with an absence of comprehensive sex education programs have higher rates of unintended pregnancy and STIS.

No, it's a lack or morals and ethics. What is hard to hold yourself out, that shows a lack of self control. Self control is always an option because we have the cognitive ability to do so.

People are sexual creatures who have sexual urges. Abstinence doesn't make a person more moral or ethical than others than those that choose to act on their desires. It can be an individual choice, but I don't see why it should be forced on people and preached in the culture--especially when statistics and studies show it's not helpful in preventing widespread pregnancy or diseases.

We have urges, we have the urge for harming others, the urges for hunger, etc but we also have logic and reason and we can make decisions for ourselves. Allowing ourselves for sexual freedom has done nothing to help us and actually spread diseases. I haven't seen one inkling of proof that proved abstinence cannot be achieved.

Abstinence does not work one hundred percent of the time for people.

Sex education is the key on curbing pregnancy amongst men and women. Many people are not educated like most people on the IC.

So, how would you arrongantly state that they should be abstinent with their sexuality, when most do not have alternate information to stop pregnancy or getting a STI/STIs.

Majority of people in America do not have health insurance, and most clinics are flooded with people waiting in line at 4am to see a doctor at 8am when the health clinic is open. Or places like planned parenthood are going under due to people and their faux morality on abortion.

Out of the care that planned parenthood give,only 3% are abortions, and they encourage the woman to think about options to keep the child. Give the woman information on places that can help them with keeping the child and free medical help during the pregnancy.

Education is key on curbing unwanted pregnancy and STIs.

I have been to urban schools and a lack of self control is what I seen growing from there. I took the same education and had reason to understand that babies at a young age = bad. Morals and ethics and emotional support and education is a better tool to combat. All I originally said why is abstinence not even brought up in these debates and people act like it is impossible to do.

 

[UnderMiSensi]

I'm for all of that, but we just throw out abstinence and lack of self restraint. Is it that so hard, that people cannot control themselves? Is it?

@Ajackson17 you know the majority of people are dumb stupid animals who give in to their primal urges. Most don't use logic and reasoning to make good decisions so they must be trained to do the right thing, and sometimes even that doesn't work, but stupid people makes the world go round, cheap labor has to come from somewhere.

 

[Ajackson17]

I'm pro-life and won't change my stance on it. I won't pressure no one and abstinence works fine for me. But my God-like ways are too immense for most people. I need my own universe to govern, BAWSE!

 

[Ajackson17]

I'm for all of that, but we just throw out abstinence and lack of self restraint. Is it that so hard, that people cannot control themselves? Is it?

@Ajackson17 you know the majority of people are dumb stupid animals who give in to their primal urges. Most don't use logic and reasoning to make good decisions so they must be trained to do the right thing, and sometimes even that doesn't work, but stupid people makes the world go round, cheap labor has to come from somewhere.

And machines and technology is doing their job much more efficient than them. Welp, the strong rules the weak and the wise rules the strong and the gods governs life and the natural laws an the wise and on downward.

 

[Ajackson17]

It's crazy that the early northern Europeans before the romans and greeks came to their lands would practice abstinence for strength and purity and vigor.

 

[skpjr78]

No one discussed abstinence? Self control should be more preached in the culture well any culture.

Heavy emphasis of abstinence has never worked to deter pregnancy and disease. In fact, states with an absence of comprehensive sex education programs have higher rates of unintended pregnancy and STIS.

No, it's a lack or morals and ethics. What is hard to hold yourself out, that shows a lack of self control. Self control is always an option because we have the cognitive ability to do so.

People are sexual creatures who have sexual urges. Abstinence doesn't make a person more moral or ethical than others than those that choose to act on their desires. It can be an individual choice, but I don't see why it should be forced on people and preached in the culture--especially when statistics and studies show it's not helpful in preventing widespread pregnancy or diseases.

We have urges, we have the urge for harming others, the urges for hunger, etc but we also have logic and reason and we can make decisions for ourselves. Allowing ourselves for sexual freedom has done nothing to help us and actually spread diseases. I haven't seen one inkling of proof that proved abstinence cannot be achieved.

Abstinence does not work one hundred percent of the time for people.

Sex education is the key on curbing pregnancy amongst men and women. Many people are not educated like most people on the IC.

So, how would you arrongantly state that they should be abstinent with their sexuality, when most do not have alternate information to stop pregnancy or getting a STI/STIs.

Majority of people in America do not have health insurance, and most clinics are flooded with people waiting in line at 4am to see a doctor at 8am when the health clinic is open. Or places like planned parenthood are going under due to people and their faux morality on abortion.

Out of the care that planned parenthood give,only 3% are abortions, and they encourage the woman to think about options to keep the child. Give the woman information on places that can help them with keeping the child and free medical help during the pregnancy.

Education is key on curbing unwanted pregnancy and STIs.

I have been to urban schools and a lack of self control is what I seen growing from there. I took the same education and had reason to understand that babies at a young age = bad. Morals and ethics and emotional support and education is a better tool to combat. All I originally said why is abstinence not even brought up in these debates and people act like it is impossible to do.

abstinence is an important part of the solution but in and of itself its part of the problem. sex ed shoud be all encompassing i.e. abstinence, birth control, condoms, social causes/social effects, economics, STD education. abstinence is a key part of the discussion but if you have an abstinence ONLY program you are setting yourself up for failure. sara palin tried to push abstinence only in the alaska public system but the dumb bitch couldnt even get that abstinence only shit to work in her own house.

you do the kid a great disservice when you give them abstinence only and nothing else. you are sending them out into the world totally unprepared. what are they going to do that 1 time out of 1000 when their hormones and natural human desires take over and they dont have a clue how to protect themselves b/c they were NEVER taught? whats the kid gonna do? if they havent been taught they will in all likelihood make a huge potential life changing mistake. give them ALL the tools that are required to survive in this cold cold war. abstinence is 1 of the tools but if thats the only tool and you give them dont be surprised if/when they fuck up i.e. bristol palin.

and for the people who believe in abstinence ONLY answer me this. were you a virgin up until the day you got married?????????

 

[Ajackson17]

No one discussed abstinence? Self control should be more preached in the culture well any culture.

Heavy emphasis of abstinence has never worked to deter pregnancy and disease. In fact, states with an absence of comprehensive sex education programs have higher rates of unintended pregnancy and STIS.

No, it's a lack or morals and ethics. What is hard to hold yourself out, that shows a lack of self control. Self control is always an option because we have the cognitive ability to do so.

People are sexual creatures who have sexual urges. Abstinence doesn't make a person more moral or ethical than others than those that choose to act on their desires. It can be an individual choice, but I don't see why it should be forced on people and preached in the culture--especially when statistics and studies show it's not helpful in preventing widespread pregnancy or diseases.

We have urges, we have the urge for harming others, the urges for hunger, etc but we also have logic and reason and we can make decisions for ourselves. Allowing ourselves for sexual freedom has done nothing to help us and actually spread diseases. I haven't seen one inkling of proof that proved abstinence cannot be achieved.

Abstinence does not work one hundred percent of the time for people.

Sex education is the key on curbing pregnancy amongst men and women. Many people are not educated like most people on the IC.

So, how would you arrongantly state that they should be abstinent with their sexuality, when most do not have alternate information to stop pregnancy or getting a STI/STIs.

Majority of people in America do not have health insurance, and most clinics are flooded with people waiting in line at 4am to see a doctor at 8am when the health clinic is open. Or places like planned parenthood are going under due to people and their faux morality on abortion.

Out of the care that planned parenthood give,only 3% are abortions, and they encourage the woman to think about options to keep the child. Give the woman information on places that can help them with keeping the child and free medical help during the pregnancy.

Education is key on curbing unwanted pregnancy and STIs.

I have been to urban schools and a lack of self control is what I seen growing from there. I took the same education and had reason to understand that babies at a young age = bad. Morals and ethics and emotional support and education is a better tool to combat. All I originally said why is abstinence not even brought up in these debates and people act like it is impossible to do.

abstinence is an important part of the solution but in and of itself its part of the problem. sex ed shoud be all encompassing i.e. abstinence, birth control, condoms, social causes/social effects, economics, STD education. abstinence is a key part of the discussion but if you have an abstinence ONLY program you are setting yourself up for failure. sara palin tried to push abstinence only in the alaska public system but the dumb bitch couldnt even get that abstinence only shit to work in her own house.

you do the kid a great disservice when you give them abstinence only and nothing else. you are sending them out into the world totally unprepared. what are they going to do that 1 time out of 1000 when their hormones and natural human desires take over and they dont have a clue how to protect themselves b/c they were NEVER taught? whats the kid gonna do? if they havent been taught they will in all likelihood make a huge potential life changing mistake. give them ALL the tools that are required to survive in this cold cold war. abstinence is 1 of the tools but if thats the only tool and you give them dont be surprised if/when they fuck up i.e. bristol palin.

and for the people who believe in abstinence ONLY answer me this. were you a virgin up until the day you got married?????????

Shrugs worked for me.

 

[Purr]

No one discussed abstinence? Self control should be more preached in the culture well any culture.

Heavy emphasis of abstinence has never worked to deter pregnancy and disease. In fact, states with an absence of comprehensive sex education programs have higher rates of unintended pregnancy and STIS.

No, it's a lack or morals and ethics. What is hard to hold yourself out, that shows a lack of self control. Self control is always an option because we have the cognitive ability to do so.

People are sexual creatures who have sexual urges. Abstinence doesn't make a person more moral or ethical than others than those that choose to act on their desires. It can be an individual choice, but I don't see why it should be forced on people and preached in the culture--especially when statistics and studies show it's not helpful in preventing widespread pregnancy or diseases.

We have urges, we have the urge for harming others, the urges for hunger, etc but we also have logic and reason and we can make decisions for ourselves. Allowing ourselves for sexual freedom has done nothing to help us and actually spread diseases. I haven't seen one inkling of proof that proved abstinence cannot be achieved.

Abstinence does not work one hundred percent of the time for people.

Sex education is the key on curbing pregnancy amongst men and women. Many people are not educated like most people on the IC.

So, how would you arrongantly state that they should be abstinent with their sexuality, when most do not have alternate information to stop pregnancy or getting a STI/STIs.

Majority of people in America do not have health insurance, and most clinics are flooded with people waiting in line at 4am to see a doctor at 8am when the health clinic is open. Or places like planned parenthood are going under due to people and their faux morality on abortion.

Out of the care that planned parenthood give,only 3% are abortions, and they encourage the woman to think about options to keep the child. Give the woman information on places that can help them with keeping the child and free medical help during the pregnancy.

Education is key on curbing unwanted pregnancy and STIs.

I have been to urban schools and a lack of self control is what I seen growing from there. I took the same education and had reason to understand that babies at a young age = bad. Morals and ethics and emotional support and education is a better tool to combat. All I originally said why is abstinence not even brought up in these debates and people act like it is impossible to do.

abstinence is an important part of the solution but in and of itself its part of the problem. sex ed shoud be all encompassing i.e. abstinence, birth control, condoms, social causes/social effects, economics, STD education. abstinence is a key part of the discussion but if you have an abstinence ONLY program you are setting yourself up for failure. sara palin tried to push abstinence only in the alaska public system but the dumb bitch couldnt even get that abstinence only shit to work in her own house.

you do the kid a great disservice when you give them abstinence only and nothing else. you are sending them out into the world totally unprepared. what are they going to do that 1 time out of 1000 when their hormones and natural human desires take over and they dont have a clue how to protect themselves b/c they were NEVER taught? whats the kid gonna do? if they havent been taught they will in all likelihood make a huge potential life changing mistake. give them ALL the tools that are required to survive in this cold cold war. abstinence is 1 of the tools but if thats the only tool and you give them dont be surprised if/when they fuck up i.e. bristol palin.

and for the people who believe in abstinence ONLY answer me this. were you a virgin up until the day you got married?????????

Shrugs worked for me.

One out of 300 million people

 

[Ajackson17]

I know, there are a few individuals who can suppress their animal like behavior and ascend to Godlike status.

 

[7figz]

As far as the abstinence conversation - they talk about that shit but for most people, it's unrealistic. All these rear-view assertions on how it could have been prevented don't deal with what happens after it's already occurred.

And still don't see how it's anybody else' business whether someone aborts their own potential child?

I have a feeling a lot pro-lifer's stances are rooted in religious beliefs.

How do you see it being anyone's business if someone is abusing their own child? Some people view the "potential child" the same as they view an already born child because the life has begun already even if it inside the womb of the mother.

I don't see why you believe pro-lifer's stances are rooted in religious beliefs when no one in this thread that has expressed a pro-life position has used religion or religious arguments for why they believe it to be wrong to abort a fetus.

In my opinion, a person who equates a fertilized egg with a fully developed and delivered human being is an extremist.

As far as pro-lifers' religious beliefs, I think it's relevant to know whether they are atheist because most of the time, it's what comes next in the discussion. The line starts getting blurred with "marriage" and "proper" family structure, etc... things that most people have their own personal opinion on, largely associated with religion.

 

[7figz]

It's crazy that the early northern Europeans before the romans and greeks came to their lands would practice abstinence for strength and purity and vigor.

Probably related to why they were said to be homosexuals.

 

[Ajackson17]

It's crazy that the early northern Europeans before the romans and greeks came to their lands would practice abstinence for strength and purity and vigor.

Probably related to why they were said to be homosexuals.

Yeah, probably but they did conquer the world though and still have tremendous influence, without sex penetrating repeatedly in the male mind, I wonder how much can we actually accomplish in this world. It would be extraordinary to not allow our inner lusts controlling our every move.

 

[Ajackson17]

We are lovers of life, I help the unfortunate children out.

 

[VIBE]

God performs abortions all the time.

Just recently one of my FB friends lost her baby, she was about 2 months. She said it was "gods will", that he knew somehow they weren't ready. (2 weeks prior to this, she said god blessed them w another baby).

So god aborted the shit out of it and its cool. God has performed millions of abortions and people are cool with it, especially religious people. But if you go to a doctor and do it that way, you're evil.

Crazy shit.

 

[Louis Cipher]

skippy....you do realize that we are talking about 2 entirely different things dont you? youre talking the practical , perfect, effectiveness of condoms...and im talking about how effective they are generally....

if all things are perfect...then yea condoms do their job....but that doesnt always happen...because condoms slip...break....rip...what have you...how many times has one slipped off of you? or broken? i bet it was a lot more than 2% of the time...

i bet you dont even know what correct and consistent usage means? do you?

here..... im not typing all this out...read it for yourself....

vitals.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/02/26/10511064-condom-use-101-basic-errors-are-so-common-study-finds?lite

heres a tidbit for you tho(since this 98% is so dear to you)....With perfect use, condoms prevent pregnancy with 98 percent success, according to the World Health Organization. Typically, however, the rate of unintended pregnancy with condoms is around 15 percent. [The History & Future of Birth Control]

no you are talking about 2 different things.  i told you in my very first post that condoms are 98% effective in preventing pregnancy when used CORRECTLY.  i said that off top. its not my fault you cant fucking read.

If condoms are used properly, they are 98% effective in preventing STIs and unplanned pregnancy.

Govt. of Western Australia
http://www.getthefacts.health.wa.gov.au/3/53/1/male_condoms.pm

Each year, 2 out of 100 women whose partners use condoms will become pregnant if they always use condoms correctly.

for the dumb niggas (louis cipher) who dont understand percentages 2 out of 100 = 98% effective rate

University of Michigan
http://www.uhs.umich.edu/contraception-male-condom-facts

you are losing all over the world dumb ass. from michigan to western australia you are just collecting L's. as i said earlier condoms have a 98% effective rate when used CORRECTLY. fucking idiot. if your ignorant ass would have read my 1st post in which i clearly said the effective rate for condoms in preventing pregnancy when used CORRECTLY is 98% you wouldnt have spent all fucking night making a fool of yourself.

god gave you 2 eyes and 1 mouth for a reason. i suggest you READ before you talk. that may help prevent another display of uncontrolled stupidity. but thats the problem w/niggas like you. you have failed to realize just how STUPID you are.

i hope yall have been taking notes. this is how you crush a dumb nigga who doesnt know just how fucking DUMB he really is.

facts & stats>>>>>>>>>>>>>>dumb niggas & illiteracy

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whew...i just woke up....and you still mad...

bruh it takes a very special type of intellect or lack thereof to sit down and type out cuss words on a message board...you and i both can post links to prove our points...you have and so have i...

i stand by my assertion that condoms have a failure rate up to 15% in some instances...yea they can have an effective rate of 98% with correct and consistent use...but if they are failing...that obviously means that they arent always being used correctly...right?

well that seems obvious to me...maybe not so much to you...

you see what i did there?

...i made my points without cussing and being ignorant...you should try it...people would take you seriously if you act like you have some sense...but thats neither here nor there...

what else you got?

 

[VIBE]

God performs abortions all the time.

Just recently one of my FB friends lost her baby, she was about 2 months. She said it was "gods will", that he knew somehow they weren't ready. (2 weeks prior to this, she said god blessed them w another baby).

So god aborted the shit out of it and its cool. God has performed millions of abortions and people are cool with it, especially religious people. But if you go to a doctor and do it that way, you're evil.

Crazy shit.

God performs murders all the time.

Just recently one of my neighbors died. And at the funeral the preacher said "God called him home" and people were somehow comforted by this thought, and were saying things like "he's with Jesus now" "he's in a better place" "he won't have to feel any pain or suffering like us on earth" etc.

Then I went to another funeral at this same church, preached by the same preacher, but this time the person the funeral was for was gunned down in what is described as a "senseless" act of violence.

And these religious people want the person that committed the murder in prison....silly isn't it?

Oh wait, not really, one is an act of nature, and the other is murder committed with forethought....so silly to compare the two, but I expect that from pro-choicers. Y'all love twisting words and examples around to fit your agendas.

Nah, if religious people believe that their pregnancy losses are "gods will" for whatever reasons, that's gods abortion.

If you're non-religious, then yes, it's natural.

 

[VIBE]

God performs abortions all the time.

Just recently one of my FB friends lost her baby, she was about 2 months. She said it was "gods will", that he knew somehow they weren't ready. (2 weeks prior to this, she said god blessed them w another baby).

So god aborted the shit out of it and its cool. God has performed millions of abortions and people are cool with it, especially religious people. But if you go to a doctor and do it that way, you're evil.

Crazy shit.

God performs murders all the time.

Just recently one of my neighbors died. And at the funeral the preacher said "God called him home" and people were somehow comforted by this thought, and were saying things like "he's with Jesus now" "he's in a better place" "he won't have to feel any pain or suffering like us on earth" etc.

Then I went to another funeral at this same church, preached by the same preacher, but this time the person the funeral was for was gunned down in what is described as a "senseless" act of violence.

And these religious people want the person that committed the murder in prison....silly isn't it?

Oh wait, not really, one is an act of nature, and the other is murder committed with forethought....so silly to compare the two, but I expect that from pro-choicers. Y'all love twisting words and examples around to fit your agendas.

Nah, if religious people believe that their pregnancy losses are "gods will" for whatever reasons, that's gods abortion.

If you're non-religious, then yes, it's natural.

Religious people equate God's will with being supernatural

Fixed.

If God was "natural" or "normal", there would be no need for a god. God is "supernatural", as he works outside anything normal. God does a lot of amazing shit that is outside natural, it's how religion people see it.

This is why they go to god for all their problems and answers.

 

[T. Sanford]

Funny you should mention this. Some bitch I fucked a minute ago is preggo. Condom broke while I was fucking her(Never use fucking trojans always magnums). Long story short she drinks and smokes like shit and its already like four months but wont get an abortion. Real tempted to punch her in her fucking stomach.

I'll do it if I was you, hell it ain't like the baby was planned anyway. That baby don't even suppose to be in there. If you have a stair case in yo house, jackal then that stair case is your friend right bout now

 

[skpjr78]

skippy....you do realize that we are talking about 2 entirely different things dont you? youre talking the practical , perfect, effectiveness of condoms...and im talking about how effective they are generally....

if all things are perfect...then yea condoms do their job....but that doesnt always happen...because condoms slip...break....rip...what have you...how many times has one slipped off of you? or broken? i bet it was a lot more than 2% of the time...

i bet you dont even know what correct and consistent usage means? do you?

here..... im not typing all this out...read it for yourself....

vitals.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/02/26/10511064-condom-use-101-basic-errors-are-so-common-study-finds?lite

heres a tidbit for you tho(since this 98% is so dear to you)....With perfect use, condoms prevent pregnancy with 98 percent success, according to the World Health Organization. Typically, however, the rate of unintended pregnancy with condoms is around 15 percent. [The History & Future of Birth Control]

no you are talking about 2 different things.  i told you in my very first post that condoms are 98% effective in preventing pregnancy when used CORRECTLY.  i said that off top. its not my fault you cant fucking read.

If condoms are used properly, they are 98% effective in preventing STIs and unplanned pregnancy.

Govt. of Western Australia
http://www.getthefacts.health.wa.gov.au/3/53/1/male_condoms.pm

Each year, 2 out of 100 women whose partners use condoms will become pregnant if they always use condoms correctly.

for the dumb niggas (louis cipher) who dont understand percentages 2 out of 100 = 98% effective rate

University of Michigan
http://www.uhs.umich.edu/contraception-male-condom-facts

you are losing all over the world dumb ass. from michigan to western australia you are just collecting L's. as i said earlier condoms have a 98% effective rate when used CORRECTLY. fucking idiot. if your ignorant ass would have read my 1st post in which i clearly said the effective rate for condoms in preventing pregnancy when used CORRECTLY is 98% you wouldnt have spent all fucking night making a fool of yourself.

god gave you 2 eyes and 1 mouth for a reason. i suggest you READ before you talk. that may help prevent another display of uncontrolled stupidity. but thats the problem w/niggas like you. you have failed to realize just how STUPID you are.

i hope yall have been taking notes. this is how you crush a dumb nigga who doesnt know just how fucking DUMB he really is.

facts & stats>>>>>>>>>>>>>>dumb niggas & illiteracy

http://gifsoup.com/

whew...i just woke up....and you still mad...

bruh it takes a very special type of intellect or lack thereof to sit down and type out cuss words on a message board...you and i both can post links to prove our points...you have and so have i...

i stand by my assertion that condoms have a failure rate up to 15% in some instances...yea they can have an effective rate of 98% with correct and consistent use...but if they are failing...that obviously means that they arent always being used correctly...right?

well that seems obvious to me...maybe not so much to you...

you see what i did there?

...i made my points without cussing and being ignorant...you should try it...people would take you seriously if you act like you have some sense...but thats neither here nor there...

what else you got?

you are a clown and you are still WRONG on multiple fronts. first and foremost in my initial post i said:

"condoms are 98% effective against preventing pregnancy when used correctly."

you claimed that was false so i had to bitch slap you with multiple cross verified FACTS such as....................

Male condoms-Sheaths or coverings that fit over a man's erect penis. Forms a barrier to prevent sperm and egg from meeting

Effectiveness to prevent pregnancy-98% with correct and consistent use

World Health Organization
http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs351/en/index.html

you still have not been able to refute this basic FACT that i established on my 1st post. the same post that you so brilliantly claimed was false. im still waiting for you to disprove this FACT.

after that FACT left a lump on your empty ass head you furthered exposed your ignorance by conflating the 2% failure rate of condoms with the 15% ineffective rate as a result of IMPROPER USAGE. these are 2 completely and totally different things jack ass. product failure is not the same as human factor failure. the 2% of condoms that break while being used CORRECTLY are in a totally different statistical category than the 15% of condoms that fail b/c they were IMPROPERLY USED. this is why product information, instructions, and warnings are written on condoms packages and boxes....................

Other studies that do not measure for incorrect use, but only for "regular use", indicate that the pregnancy rate may be as high as 15% of couples. But this number is skewed because it includes improper use. The main reason that condoms sometimes fail to prevent pregnancy is incorrect or inconsistent use, not the failure of the condom itself.

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you dont want it w/me junior. i come on this website to pass time and bullshit. but for a guy to be totally intellectually dominated and embarrassed by a dude who is watching tv, drinking beer and wasting time doesnt speak very highly of you. think twice before you allow your ill informed dick sucker to get you in trouble. now run along and play. maybe you can find a very busy freeway to run through blindfolded. and never forget these all important and ever so true words...............

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-fdMl7KU8s

 

[Ajackson17]

It is completely logical, but illogical people cannot apply logic in their lives nor reason. They are barely at the level above animals, maybe lower than a chimp on a bad day.